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Title: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: krave on 25 December 2011, 23:09
Used to have a vr, well a few.
Getting bored of my caddying work can.

What can I expect from a mk4 turbo?
If I'm not going to enjoy it after the vr. What can I do? Or should I just get a vr?

Help appreciated people.....
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: porter_89 on 25 December 2011, 23:10
get a mk4 forge 007p valve yellow spring air filter and tip with a remap you will love it!!
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: F17BAD on 25 December 2011, 23:46
get the mk3 but put the engine from the mk4 in it

Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: porter_89 on 26 December 2011, 00:18
or you could do that mate haha
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: Ant1981 on 26 December 2011, 01:06
The Vr might well outperform it really, bags of torque etc...
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: porter_89 on 26 December 2011, 01:37
no chance i ear vr's all day long lol
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tweed on 26 December 2011, 09:31
no chance i ear vr's all day long lol

Standard vr6 will be quicker than a standard 1.8t.

But who leaves a 1.8t standard?
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: Wayne on 26 December 2011, 09:46
Standard vr6 will be quicker than a standard 1.8t.

But who leaves a 1.8t standard?

Unless it is a 180 :smiley:

Sod the work / hassle and expense of fitting a 1.8t to a mk3, just buy a mk4 and remap it. :smiley:

Also it maybe worth thinking outside the box and getting a Leon Cupra or Octavia vRS, 180bhp as standard and a remap will get you 210 / 215
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: porter_89 on 26 December 2011, 10:44
dont get me wrong v6 sounds good but blower is the way forward power to price wise unless u charge a vr6 lol
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: VW BUSH on 26 December 2011, 11:22
Mk3 is a Fat friend lighter than a Mk4
They are awesome with a 1.8 conversion, why VW did not kit them out with a turbo unit as standard boggles my tiny mind.
They would have been legendary.

Still, a late Mk4 + £500 on mods are weapons :smiley:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: F17BAD on 26 December 2011, 11:59
yep the MK4 is one hell or a lardy ass bas tard and much more boat like than a 3

with a 1.8T in the 3 you have a right weapon

Id say the VR would smoke a standard 150 Mk4 and it deffo gives the 180BHP versions a hard time too because Bens VR has done just this

But as said, put that engine in the mk3 and its a while new ball game.. it is effort to do the transplant tho and £££ too
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: porter_89 on 26 December 2011, 12:06
yea the mk4 is lardy but when mapped they shift haha mine makes a few things round town think haha!
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: krave on 26 December 2011, 13:57
I have built a mk2 vr before.

The 1.8t I'm looking at has a stage 2 map apparently, ko3s, forge cooler, forge actuator, upgraded down pipe, de cat/stainless system, and bigger turbo pipework....
And about 130k,
Told it should be about 230 bhp, not sure what all of that would give this lump tho?

Should be pretty quick surely lol....
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tshirt2k on 26 December 2011, 17:45
Why not VRT And eat everyone??  :cool:











....If you can get the power down
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: Wazzzer on 26 December 2011, 18:13
yep the MK4 is one hell or a lardy ass bas tard and much more boat like than a 3

with a 1.8T in the 3 you have a right weapon

Id say the VR would smoke a standard 150 Mk4 and it deffo gives the 180BHP versions a hard time too because Bens VR has done just this

But as said, put that engine in the mk3 and its a while new ball game.. it is effort to do the transplant tho and £££ too

with respect you're not gonna say the mk3 is a POS are you...
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: travisreeve on 26 December 2011, 18:19
Mk1 1.8t... Seeee yaaaaa  :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 19:14
Im with Wayne personally I would just buy a 1.8t mk4 and go from there unless you would like to have ago at a conversion on a mk3.I havent personally done any kind of conversion as I would rather put my money into other things but I wouldnt think it would be to cheap and resale value isnt great.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: snifferdog on 26 December 2011, 19:17
Id just get a VR6 as my old mk4 was the most boring car Ive ever owned except for an old escort gti.  :sick:

Its all a matter of opinion though, I think the best thing to do is drive both and decide which one works for you.

They will both need money spending on them -whether it be sorting the suspension or getting it remapped.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 19:18
Id just get a VR6 as my old mk4 was the most boring car Ive ever owned except for an old escort gti.  :sick:

Its all a matter of opinion though, I think the best thing to do is drive both and decide which one works for you.

They will both need money spending on them -whether it be sorting the suspension or getting it remapped.

Didnt you buy the worst Gti though the 2.0l none turbo ??? VR6 in standard form isnt that quick either and they cost a fortune to run.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: snifferdog on 26 December 2011, 19:30
Id just get a VR6 as my old mk4 was the most boring car Ive ever owned except for an old escort gti.  :sick:

Its all a matter of opinion though, I think the best thing to do is drive both and decide which one works for you.

They will both need money spending on them -whether it be sorting the suspension or getting it remapped.

Didnt you buy the worst Gti though the 2.0l none turbo ??? VR6 in standard form isnt that quick either and they cost a fortune to run.

Nah mine was 1.8 20v  :wink:












non turbo  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: snifferdog on 26 December 2011, 19:31
Then again, turbo or not it doesnt help that it was bland as hell and heavy as fook!!
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 19:41
Maybe if you every buy a mk4 again buy a decent one like a 1.8t or a deisel PD put some decent suspension on it and there not so bland and boaring  :wink:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: snifferdog on 26 December 2011, 19:50
Yeah definitely mate. I dont mean to sound overly negative towards the mk4 as it was a decent and well built car -I would always consider another one but as you say it would have to be a turbo and would need the suspension looking at.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 20:07
Yeah definitely mate. I dont mean to sound overly negative towards the mk4 as it was a decent and well built car -I would always consider another one but as you say it would have to be a turbo and would need the suspension looking at.

I know mate they are pretty lardy standard but to be fair most cars are in standard form.My own car only has a cheap coilover set but improved it alot so says alot for the standard set up.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: Wayne on 26 December 2011, 20:19

Id say the VR would smoke a standard 150 Mk4 and it deffo gives the 180BHP versions a hard time too because Bens VR has done just this


Not wishing to make this a willy waving comp, but mine standard gave VR's a hard time now with the map / mods not a chance.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 26 December 2011, 20:23
Its a pointless comparison, vr6 was first introduced in 1992, it's an old engine compared to the 1.8T.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: Wazzzer on 26 December 2011, 20:30
go on Wayne, wave it with pride  :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 20:58

Id say the VR would smoke a standard 150 Mk4 and it deffo gives the 180BHP versions a hard time too because Bens VR has done just this


Not wishing to make this a willy waving comp, but mine standard gave VR's a hard time now with the map / mods not a chance.

I think both standard they ent that quick but the 1.8t would nick it I reakon.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 26 December 2011, 21:45
A good vr is quite nippy, depends what you're comparing it with..
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 26 December 2011, 22:15
A standard 1.8t golf 150 is not quicker than a vr6 I had a play with my mate in his seat Leon cupra and my golf was quicker than his but mines has a filter and exhaust so standard vs standard there probably one a par the 150 golf are sh!t slow until they are remapped
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 22:21
You would say that though cause im guessing you own a VR6  :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 26 December 2011, 22:27
Did you used to own a 16v?  :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 22:28
Yeah and a VR6  :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 26 December 2011, 22:29
 :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 26 December 2011, 22:40
You would say that though cause im guessing you own a VR6  :grin:

Yeah mate I do have a vr6 but that don't mean I am talking sh!t i got beat off a Saxo vts so I'm not biased saying that the vr6 are the fastest cars in the world cos there not there an old car but I'm telling you a seat Leon cupra is about the same as a vr6 not a golf 150  :laugh:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tdi_blu on 26 December 2011, 22:51
I think my old 8v would do both of em  :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 26 December 2011, 22:54
Haha the 8v gti why it was called a gti makes me laugh they might aswell have stuck a gti badge on a 1.4 cl cos they are about the same speed lol
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: benvictors on 26 December 2011, 23:02
Yes I've had a poke against a Leon Cupra in my VR and it was probably about evens, I may be slightly biased but you could buy a VR and supercharge it for around the same price as a decent mk4 1.8T and you would have a rather evil monster, albeit a thirsty evil monster  :wink:
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: F17BAD on 27 December 2011, 13:12
na ben.. did you see the video of the supercharged one (the cabrio that was on here) i expected waaaay more!!!!   

Turbo and then ya talking... supercharge.. naaaa 
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 27 December 2011, 13:16
Have you seen that blue golf that dubsport built 2 vr6 turbo engines now that was a f**kin monster something like 600 bhp
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: tshirt2k on 27 December 2011, 17:06
na ben.. did you see the video of the supercharged one (the cabrio that was on here) i expected waaaay more!!!!   

Turbo and then ya talking... supercharge.. naaaa 

Yea, The chargers are usually centrifugal and they only boost top end. Not as impressive as the may seem.
Title: Re: Vr6 to 1.8t
Post by: scottv6 on 27 December 2011, 18:38
over a 1.8t 150-180 with a ko3 ko3s id rather have a 4mo anyday only a 225 in a 1.8t for me.