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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: andykram on 20 December 2011, 13:42
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I have a dilemma. My car goes in to the stealers after Chrimbo for another week while they try to find a solution to the ongoing alarm issue. You may recall they had it three weeks this time last year to try and fix it until VW UK told them to strip another GTi down for donor parts. At that point they gave up as they didn't have another one in the showroom. Anyway, this is now an official "case" with VW UK as I thought I should get it resolved before the warranty runs out in June.
The dilemma, however, is Bluefin. I've been itching to remap the car for a while now and Bluefin is 20% off at only £365 until the end of December. Without getting into another argument about tuners the Bluefin appeals because I can put the car back to standard. My question, however, is, does it still leave a trace of evidence that the car has been mapped? The reason I ask is that I don't want VW coming back to me saying, "O you've had the car mapped so we're not going to fix your alarm". I'm just afraid of the weaseling out of their obligation they might try if the car is non standard.
What do you all think?
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Bluefin affects the engine, not the alarm.
If your dealer is worth their salt they will honour to fix your alarm issues. You'll find the work will get done regardless.
Lots of people have had warranty work done on modified cars without any issues :smiley:
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I've never bin refused any warranty work, way I see it is the be dealer welcomes the work as they claim the cost back from Vw, trouble comes if Vw ask to inspect the failed part.
I've had a block a cylinder head, gearbox, 2 x turbos and a full engine on my mkv in recent times. I never even bother to put it back to standard. If u want to know the garage drop me a pm, no name and shames posted on here so they stop doing it
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The only trace left by flashing your ECU in the car is the flash counters in the ECU which count up as the car is flashed, most cars should have 2 or three flashes due to updates etc but I've seen customer controlled cars with over 200 flashes in the counter.
If your a tuner you remove these flash counts or remove the ECU for flashing as this doesn't count up.
Obviously you can't do that with a bluefin.
BTW "Flashing" is the process used to program the ECU.
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Buy the Bluefin, upload your map to Superchips, get the new one sent back to you but don't put it into the ECU until after the dealer visit. Easy.
That would be my course of action if I was considering a Bluefin and a little worried.
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you won't have any issues IMO. like said earlier just revert to stock every time you take it if your worried
Thats a great price by the way. i paid £405 from JKM a couple of months back on special offer so £365 is excellent
honestly just get it done. you will love it. really brings the car to life IMO. well worth the £££ and I'm sure the dealers will be fine about it or i wouldn't have forked out on one. :wink:
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It wasn't so much the dealer I was worried about as their techies probably won't even notice. No, it's the bods at Milton Keynes I'm bothered about if it gets to the point where the dealer can't fix the car and we start debating what the next step is. This is quite possible as they had it for three weeks last year without success.
At the end of the day, my car has technically not been of merchantable quality for the best part of a year now as I don't know whether it's protected all the time or not. If they don't fix it we may get to the point of arguing over some form of compo - I just don't want them saying I've messed about with it blah, blah blah so I've invalidated everything. You know what these weasels are like.
And yes, I am quite aware Bluefin affects the engine, not the alarm - it's the principle of modifying the car I was asking about.
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I've had a block a cylinder head, gearbox, 2 x turbos and a full engine on my mkv in recent times. I never even bother to put it back to standard. If u want to know the garage drop me a pm, no name and shames posted on here so they stop doing it
Jesus Christ! What tuner did you go with!? :grin:
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It wasn't so much the dealer I was worried about as their techies probably won't even notice. No, it's the bods at Milton Keynes I'm bothered about if it gets to the point where the dealer can't fix the car and we start debating what the next step is. This is quite possible as they had it for three weeks last year without success.
At the end of the day, my car has technically not been of merchantable quality for the best part of a year now as I don't know whether it's protected all the time or not. If they don't fix it we may get to the point of arguing over some form of compo - I just don't want them saying I've messed about with it blah, blah blah so I've invalidated everything. You know what these weasels are like.
And yes, I am quite aware Bluefin affects the engine, not the alarm - it's the principle of modifying the car I was asking about.
I think your answering your own question for yourself. It's clear your not entirely comfortable with doing it for the reasons you state, whether they would happen or wouldn't is not the point. If your not comfortable with it then don't do it until you feel the car has been fixed to your satisfaction
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Read this: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=210812.0
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That'll do for me - there's far more evidence saying the remap won't make a difference to the warranty than it will.
Let's go for it...
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you will love it :evil:
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Hopefully it'll frighten the wife so much she won't want to drive it anymore!!!!!!!
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Wow... I've just seen that £365 and am very tempted!! :evil:
As above - buy the handset now, and don't actually remap until you've had your issues fixed. That way you get the bluefin at the bargain price, but don't need to worry about the dealer.
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Wow... I've just seen that £365 and am very tempted!! :evil:
As above - buy the handset now, and don't actually remap until you've had your issues fixed. That way you get the bluefin at the bargain price, but don't need to worry about the dealer.
Golf R + Remap = :evil:
Do it, you know you want to....
Jim
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As above - buy the handset now, and don't actually remap until you've had your issues fixed. That way you get the bluefin at the bargain price, but don't need to worry about the dealer.
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Do you seriously think I could have a Bluefin handset sitting in the house for three weeks without me plugging it in? It'd be like waving a Big Mac in front of Robinson Crusoe when he was stuck on his island!!!!!
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One thing that appears to have been overlooked.. if they eventually trace the alarm fault to be related to the ECU, you will have an argument on your hands when it comes to a warranty claim if your flash counter is not what its expected to be. This is why its always best to be open with your dealer about remapping, let them know you're having it done and that the fault was there long before you tinkered with the ECU.
Also if they end up replacing the ECU there is no guarantee the map file you get from bluefin will work on the new one and you'll end up paying for a second map file.
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I had my engine replaced after a remap.... no questions asked :lipsrsealed:
As stated above, dealers will welcome the extra work no doubt.... but as topher said, its probably better to be open and honest before hand. In your case andy the dealer should know that this has been an ongoing issue well before any mapping has taken place.
btw if the garage you are referring to is Leeds.... dont bother telling those cnuts anything :lipsrsealed:
p.s. I knew it wouldnt be long before the remap bug got you :evil: :evil:
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No Gilly it's not Leeds. I know they are the lowest of the low from my attempts to buy my GTi there plus of course horror stories like yours that I've heard.
I think I've decided I'm going to rig my "case manager" at VW UK and tell him what I'm going to do. As you've all said, I'll have been open with them then. Plus, the fact that mine's a long term issue should mean it's ok.
Plus, if I'm not mistaken, isn't Bluefin effectively what VW Racing use anyway?
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Just double check this with Jamie Turvey the technical diretcor at Superchips but they can program your bluefin to reset the Flash counter for you to any digit you request. To be on the safe side you could visit their HQ in Miton Keynes then they can read the ECU, check the flash counter and load up for you whilst you wait then each time you use the handset it will reset the counter.
They may even throw in a free Dyno run if you offer feedback on the forum, well worth discussing the options and also their back up warranty, personally i don't think you will have any issue with your warranty claim as totally unrelated but understandable to be careful with your pride and joy.
Drop me a pm if you want Jamies personal e-mail address, I'm not connected with SC in any way just had no less than 6 cars mapped by them in the past with no issues affecting any warranty or service work.
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Begins with a D few miles down the A1 ;) Say nomore on the subject.
And Spin 150PD just saw your spec, Have you tried
http://shop.revotechnik.com/products/561/ths-revo-edition-intercooler-for-vw-golf-mk6-20-tsi.aspx
Makes a huge difference to Stage 2
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Begins with a D few miles down the A1 ;) Say nomore on the subject.
And Spin 150PD just saw your spec, Have you tried
http://shop.revotechnik.com/products/561/ths-revo-edition-intercooler-for-vw-golf-mk6-20-tsi.aspx
Makes a huge difference to Stage 2
Cheers for that link, would have been on the radar but recently PX the GTi - loved every minute of my brief ownership :wink: