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General => General discussion => Topic started by: RandomJord on 12 December 2011, 21:23
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So in my new house the heating upstairs hardly works, sussed out how to bleed radiators an did that so I'd say I've now got 50% function in the rads upstairs.
The rad in the master bedroom has not heat in at al, but does have water in
All the rads seem to always have air in, what can I do?
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phone your landlord and politely request that they sort it out
do they have British Gas homecare... most do... if that is the case they can book and engineer and you can be all toasty!! :)
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Captain obvious I know, but are the valves open both ends?
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Have you got thermostatic control valves on the rads?
1. Are they open
2. They can become stuck.
Unscrew them and give the little pin a light whack to get it to work.
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or take them off totally to see if the rad gets hot :wink:
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Ok, valves are open, nothing's stuck, but is there supposed to be this much air in the system?
Yesterday I bled them all totally, today, there's loads more air coming out
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air is getting in somehow or the pipes are just full up with air and it's gradually coming out. Are you refilling the water in the system to get it back up to pressure when you bleed them?
Actually if you rent the place get onto your landlord and get them to sort it ASAP, don't waste your own time trying to solve it
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RandomJord.If you have one rad that is cold then you more than likely have all the valves on the other rads fully open.Close all the valves on the rads (both ends),then open each side of every rad 3 turns of the valve.That way you will have the same amount of hot water going to each rad.If you require one rad to be hotter then just open the valves on that rad one more turn.The cold rad is obviously the last in the heating system and if you have the other rads full open then there is not enough hot water available to heat that rad.
Rob
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Yeah..... All getting a bit technical for my liking!
Heating engineer will be found tommorow!
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If i was close to you i would have popped round to have a look m8.Being a plumber comes in handy :grin:.
Rob
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Captain obvious I know, but are the valves open both ends?
Can of worms.
Valves at both ends are different valves.
There's one for you to control, then the other is the lock sheild. The lock sheild valve, it isn't always the case that it should be fully open, if it is, then it can cock your heating up, as that's for balancing the flow rate of the water, as the water will take the shortest path, leaving other radiators not as hot, or even cold. So the lock sheild should be set to regulate the flow, so that every radiator get's hot water without missing others out if it has an easy path to flow back to the boiler, missing others out.
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i can't be arsed :grin:
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Any luck with the heating m8.?
Rob
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Yeah, got the dick of a heating engineer coming out tommorow, he has not endeared himself to me over the phone. First he said he didn't service the boiler.... His name and signatures on it.... And also he said that Theres supposed to be air in the system, my response was yes there supposed to be f**king heat aswell!!
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Mmmmm,sounds like you could be ripped off buddy.Air in the system,MY ARSE.If there was supposed to be air in the system then why do you have to bleed the radiators of the air.DUH.Good Luck buddy.
Rob
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read this thinking i'd find out how to bleed my radiators... now im just more confused.
oh well.. it will have to wait til december til the boyfriend comes up and then he can bleed it for me. :)
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Noooo, it'll be sorted
I don't get ripped off :kiss:
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Han,bleeding the rads is easy.You will either have a small bleed screw cap on one end of the radiator at the top, or a small square head screw on the back of the rad at the top(if your radiator is older).You just need to unscrew the bleed screw until you hear air hissing out.Do not take the screw right out.When any water starts coming out of the bleed screw you know you have bled the radiator of air so tighten the screw back up.Simples :wink:
Rob
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Noooo, it'll be sorted
I don't get ripped off :kiss:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Rob
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Han,bleeding the rads is easy.You will either have a small bleed screw cap on one end of the radiator at the top, or a small square head screw on the back of the rad at the top(if your radiator is older).You just need to unscrew the bleed screw until you hear air hissing out.Do not take the screw right out.When any water starts coming out of the bleed screw you know you have bled the radiator of air so tighten the screw back up.Simples :wink:
Rob
to be fair, i know exactly what to do, my dad was the last person to bleed the rads when i moved in the house and we fitted the brand new boiler and full pipework. i just can't turn the key in the rad, its far too tight!
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han use an adjustable spanner on the key you use on the bleed screw :wink:
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I can see you just sheering it straight off lol
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Don't let him go without flushing the system and bleeding it properly.
You would be surprised how many "heating engineers" don't do this.
Don't let him charge you too much either :grin:
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I hate the word heating engineer and gas engineer, it's a plumber and those jobs, heating etc is what plumbers do. Go design a heating system for a factory or a big hotel, then you can call yourself one :wink: Probably no need for flushing the system thats a couple of hundred quid by itself lol well few hundred with british gas :lipsrsealed: So highly doubt he'll just get his powerflusher out and give you one. If it has been re-filled recently ie drained air let in, then could be an air lock, or it may just need balancing. Doubt it's nothing that serious.
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I hate the word heating engineer and gas engineer, it's a plumber and those jobs, heating etc is what plumbers do. Go design a heating system for a factory or a big hotel, then you can call yourself one :wink: Probably no need for flushing the system thats a couple of hundred quid by itself lol well few hundred with british gas :lipsrsealed: So highly doubt he'll just get his powerflusher out and give you one. If it has been re-filled recently ie drained air let in, then could be an air lock, or it may just need balancing. Doubt it's nothing that serious.
which one are you then?
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A plumber, I just think an engineer is in a different league then just domestic heating systems. And to people who just fix boilers and say they are gas engineers like my mate.lol
Which one are you?
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Im a. Plumber , and who i work for dont touch heating! Unless were replacing cylinders!
At work im called a plumber and drainage engenier :/
So many difernt aspects to plumbing tbh a plumber dont do lead work much either thats a roofers job these days
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Thats what I was trying to get at lol different aspects. Like I do solar, wiring up cylinders ,heating bathrooms and house bashing, house bashing probably being the best lol but dont learn nothing doing it! And now I've just been sent on an f-gas course for air source heat pumps as that is to do with cylinders and heating water. Christ knows why I learnt lead at college lol never touched it again since!
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If your company are paying id not complain :laugh:
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I consider myself a heating and gas engineer, and not a plumber. Along with my welder friend i built most of the boiler house at the london museum in barbican a few years ago. I designed and built a boilerhouse for a school in isleworth last summer and did a large hotel in marble arch the year before. Boilers ranged from 200kw up to 1000kw each. I am currently doing a lot of work in renewable energy, mainly air source heat pumps.
I try not to get involved in fitting sanitary ware unless it's part of a complete new build installation.
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I consider myself a heating and gas engineer, and not a plumber. Along with my welder friend i built most of the boiler house at the london museum in barbican a few years ago. I designed and built a boilerhouse for a school in isleworth last summer and did a large hotel in marble arch the year before. Boilers ranged from 200kw up to 1000kw each. I am currently doing a lot of work in renewable energy, mainly air source heat pumps.
I try not to get involved in fitting sanitary ware unless it's part of a complete new build installation.
We are in the same game mate..... I'm a company director for this company.
www.quotehedge-heating.co.uk
It sounds like a nice title but it just means I have all the stress, worry and have do everything my bloodyself (apart from getting my hands dirty). Like your goodselves we mainly carry out installation and maintenance of commerical heating systems in London and the south east.
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well if you ever get too busy and need to sub some work out then give me a call! :wink:
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well if you ever get too busy and need to sub some work out then give me a call! :wink:
Thanks mate I will definitely bear that in mind :smiley: Feel free to PM your engineers rates.
Its on the maintenance side that we are particuarly busy on at the moment. We tend not to work for builders anymore in this current climate. Much of our installation work now comes off the back of maintenance contracts which is always better as its direct with the client.
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well if you ever get too busy and need to sub some work out then give me a call! :wink:
Thanks mate I will definitely bear that in mind :smiley: Feel free to PM your engineers rates.
Its on the maintenance side that we are particuarly busy on at the moment. We tend not to work for builders anymore in this current climate. Much of our installation work now comes off the back of maintenance contracts which is always better as its direct with the client.
Must be earning a mint , living in west sussex, driving a mk6 :rolleyes: