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General => General discussion => Topic started by: dub-addict on 09 December 2011, 23:54
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I came accross this link on google and i was shocked but ended up reading the whole thing.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/2011/08/08/overhyped-and-over-here-volkswagen-golf-mk2/
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What do you expect from a British Leyland fanboy website. :shocked:
"They’re a common sight on the roads today, and modified to boot – and rust resistance and build quality ensure depressing longevity. It really is Volkswagen’s Allegro, and I really would prefer to own a Longbridge pudding. Or even a Maestro…"
He defeats his own argument with the first few words of his closing paragraph. :grin:
How many Allegro's do you see on the road. :lipsrsealed:
Tosser.
I rest my case.
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It was mentioned several times that the mk2 was fat compared to the mk1, yeah yeah we know but get over it!! The mk2 is still Tiny and light compared to every other modern car..even todays polo is heavier.
I love looking at my mk2 slammed, parked between 2 modern hatches, so tiny and simple compared to the new duller offerings
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so funny, i always saw austins and rovers ect as gimps cars. only a select few took my wish list.. metro gti with k-series 1800 vvc and a classic mini being one of them and even most of them are in the rusters...
take a look around i remember seeing maestro`s, montego`s metro`s like it was yesterday.. now i don`t see any.. there is just one montego near me which i rarely see and it`s on its last legs.
i would love to have an allegro though, not that i like them at all, just to say i have a museum piece, remember my dad had one and it was a proper shed..
another sh!t car i would love to add to my collection is a skoda estelle.. i remember my grandad had one from new in 85 on an E plate.. it was an awesome piece of sh!t, it just had character lol..
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another sh!t car i would love to add to my collection is a skoda estelle.. i remember my grandad had one from new in 85 on an E plate.. it was an awesome piece of sh!t, it just had character lol..
yeah I would also like to add the Skoda Favorit to that list :grin:
one of the last hatches skoda made before they became part of VAG lol my dad bought one new in the early 90's not knowing much about cars, he thought it was brilliant .. just becasue it was new I imagine. and he came from an earlier skoda with the engine in the rear,so it may just have been the improvment over that which convinced him :laugh:.. cant remember the name of that one, but it was equally sh!t. had to lie in the back seat as not to be seen by my mates when being driven to school :grin:
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I love looking at my mk2 slammed, parked between 2 modern hatches, so tiny and simple compared to the new duller offerings
Has a downside though. Its quite hard to spot in a carpark.
:grin:
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As far as I'm concerned it is an over-presumptuous article written by a person who obviously hasn't a clue about other marques and their heritage. He compares iconic cars like the MKII Golf to Leyland sheds that were badly designed and built between strikes and deservedly went the way of the dinosaur a long time ago. :laugh:
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yeah I would also like to add the Skoda Favorit to that list :grin:
he had one of them too :embarassed:
he came from an earlier skoda with the engine in the rear,cant remember the name of that one, but it was equally sh!t.
yeah thats the estelle..
he had about five skodas since the estelle, he swore by them, perhaps it was the much cheapness.
he had an :
estelle E plate
favorit G plate
felicia N plate (i wrote it off 5 weeks after passing my test)
another felicia N plate to replace it
and a fabia on a 51 which my dad now owns as grandpa has hung the keys due to macular degeneration. :sad:
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ive never heard such ollocks.
it makes me laugh how arseholes can be so removed from the real world.
if bl built proper cars in the first place they wunt have gone bump.
what a cock. :smiley:
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BL never made a good car, they had a few good ideas to be fair but allways managed to cock them up royaly usally with really shonkey build quality. and the cars were sat around that long in between strikes they were allready rusty before leaveing the factory
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My first Golf Gti, a Mk3 which I got in the 90s on an R plate was fat when I look back at it. I remember test driving it against a hot 306 at the time and picked it because it was a VW, even though the 306 was quicker to drive, faster and cheaper. Yes, it was fat, lumpy and never a Gti in a million years but I loved it.
The fattest were the Mk4s. I had two. They were shockingly unreliable and put me off VW until the Mk6 GTi I now have came out. That's an awesome piece of kit. And it dwarfs the Mk2 when I park them side by side.
So to accuse the Mk2 of being fat is a bit stupid in my book. Wasn't the Allegro in fact a round, dumpy thing whose only unique feature was a square steering wheel?
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lol i had an Allegro and it was the least rusty car ive owned, no these cars had the worst built engine and drive system in the world ever.
You had the A series engine up to 1.3 and then you got the Maxi engine from 1.5 to 1.7.
The mini engine could not haul the weight around and broke gearboxes and shafts like butter, even more so when you run the hydrospastic suspension low to look cool :lipsrsealed: or if it just leaked out overnight on your drive.
The E series engine was just as pants, they did go up to a 2.2 straight 6 which was muchos pantos as well.
You could however fit any "upspec" BMC parts with little bother like four pots, MG wheels, Turbo engines etc etc, but these were made of cheese too.
My leggy had twin headlamps, chin spoiler, Princess brakes, MG wheels, slammed on its arse either through stupidity or a leaking "shock" and all the power you could get from a 1275 A series without blowing the head on a steep hill :grin:
(very difficult car to push due to the shape of the rear)
I was getting 13mpg from it so sold it for a 240GLT Auto which got about 25mpg and was cheaper to insure.
I had fun in my leggy but it was in no way as good a Mk2 or even a ford fiesta.
I do think the Mk1 is the best out of the bunch so far as original concept and design, with the low point being the Mk4. But even the worst golf is a streets ahead of any "British" cars they competed with
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Its just someones personal opinion with nothing really to back up there critisism. I'm a fan of some BL cars but they made a lot of rubbish over the years. Not a patch on vw build quality over the entire spectrum.
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Its just someones personal opinion with nothing really to back up there critisism.
My dad had a lot of BL cars and I ended up using either a bus or a pick up lorry A LOT!!! :grin:
So in my case I have plenty of back up! :laugh:
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Most of the good "BL" cars were from smaller companies that they bought up and soon ruined.
Early German cars were utter tat as well, the Beatle is iconic but piss poor in reality but by the early 70's the "that'll do" quality control policey was abandoned for something more robust, i dont think Rover started this untill the 90's as the Jap "Rovers" were so much better right up to the BMW buy up (and far too late to save them it turns out)
Cars are much better built now as they are so expensive to buy/run, you would not buy something like a Dolomite and be happy these days :grin:
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BL never made a good car, they had a few good ideas to be fair but allways managed to cock them up royaly usally with really shonkey build quality. and the cars were sat around that long in between strikes they were allready rusty before leaveing the factory
Trouble was their "that'll do" attitude. Everything they produced was second best.
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Agree with everyone that's just rubbish :laugh: The MK2 Golf is in a different league to ANY BL car :grin:
As said BL were very rusty, poorly designed, unreliable,cheap and nasty!
That said you cant beat a classic Mini to put smile on your face :laugh: I absolutely love mine :smiley:
As said rusty when they left the factory, they used to bend the doors to fit, nothing fits properly :grin: But everyone should have a go in one at least once brilliant fun :cool:
I do think that all modern cars are dull to look at though - don't get me wrong amazing machines I couldn't do without a modern car for everyday use!
You just don't get a buzz that you used to get when cars had individuality - Real character , chrome bright work, , lightweight, no electronics to help you "drive" power steering brakes etc (No fault codes) :laugh:, Manual choke, engines made by the manufacturer (Not borrowed from another make) No plastic dashboards etc etc
Most of all you used to be a part of the car not being taken for a ride like modern cars make you feel All IMO of course :smiley:
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Agree with everyone that's just rubbish :laugh: The MK2 Golf is in a different league to ANY BL car :grin:
minus 1 :lipsrsealed:
They made some real beauties. . . . . . .
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Has a downside though. Its quite hard to spot in a carpark.
:grin:
Truth.
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I came accross this link on google and i was shocked but ended up reading the whole thing.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/2011/08/08/overhyped-and-over-here-volkswagen-golf-mk2/
Not only a turd polishers site, but very, very anti German, to the extent of trying to claim big Renaults were better than BMWs/ Mercs/ Audis :(