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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: centurian on 09 December 2011, 15:47
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My car is 2-yr old and has doen 22k miles. I've had it a few weeks and done about 1,500 miles.
I can't get comfortable at all and part of this I think is down to the seats which have wrap round features (I guess due to the 'GT' styling) feeling too narrow for me. I've had Golf's for last 10-yrs and not had thiss problem beofre & annoyed I did not pick up on this at test drive. I'm 6-ft tall, 14-stone and slim build so guess I'm about average size and no doubt bigger and heavier people use these cars with no adverse affect.
I am considering putting a cushion on my seat to simply raise me above the wrap round bits of the seat pan. Has anyone else any ideas of how to overcome this issue please? Is there anything the dealer can do? (Cost is an issue but comfort has to come first.)
Thanks
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Short of swapping the seats to 'non-sports ones' from an SE or Match (ebay etc); or swapping the car, I can't see what else you can do; sorry.
Are you sure you won't just get used to it; as 1500 miles isn't that much really? Dunno if it helps; but when I got mine; I did have to play around quite a bit to get the best seat position; due mostly I think to the headrests being at a fixed angle; which made me fidget a lot or adopt an unatural position. Once I found the 'sweet spot' the seats are super comfy on long trips and the side bits hold you quite well in the corners.
I'd suggest giving it a bit longer and trying lots of adjustments up and down; wheel in n out etc etc before other options as that's gonna cost.
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Fair point.
The fixed angle headrests are also a concern - and I can't see how these are an improvment of over the old ones.
Any idea of cost to swap seats? Just out of curiosity?
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My wife had no end of trouble getting comfortable in the GTD seats. She said the headrest's pushed into the rear of her neck, but with much playing with the seat controls, she is now quite comfortable... So bear with it and keep trying :wink:
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I seem to remember reading a whole raft of complaints about the Golf seats a year or so back. Have a google as I don't think it was in this forum. Although its the old adage that you will generally only ever hear folks complaints not praise.
I'm sure that most folk got some joy with constant tinkering until they got it right. Tilting the base slightly forward or back changes the whole feel of it.
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P3asa - 'Tilting the base' ?
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P3asa - 'Tilting the base' ?
As P3asa is off line.... I *think* he means........
Long handle on the outside edge of seat (has a 'ratchet' feel to it) push down to raise rear of seat, pull up to lower. :cool:
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Yeah cheers andyr that's what I meant.
Although it raises and lowers the seat, it seems to pivot slightly from the front so hence it tilts forward and back.
I think it makes a big difference.
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Agree with all the above re adjustments; I remember now that the seight height seemed to make all the difference. I think given patience and fiddling; you'll get comfy.
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A mate of my couldn't get comfortable in his Superb. He wanted the back of the base tilting up a bit, but the front staying where it was, so we took out the rear mounting bolts, jacked it up with some washers and bolted it back down. Much better, for him anyway, but it doesn't solve the OP's problem of hugging bolsters.
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Will check out the seat tilting but can't say i noticed any tilting to date. The long ratched lever on my car raises the seat when it's repeatedly pulled up and loweres the seat when repeatedly pressed down - I presume you mean that it is this same lever/action that also tilts the seat, as i can;t find any other levers (but I will look shortly)
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I took a while to get comfortable in my GTI seats. I also felt they pinched me quite a bit when I sat in them but after 2 years I'm now more than comfortable in them and, in fact, can't seem to find another car with seats quite as good.
My advice would be to play around a bit but also to eventually just sit it out (no pun intended) as you will get used to it and then be quite comfortable.
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Will check out the seat tilting but can't say i noticed any tilting to date. The long ratched lever on my car raises the seat when it's repeatedly pulled up and loweres the seat when repeatedly pressed down - I presume you mean that it is this same lever/action that also tilts the seat, as i can;t find any other levers (but I will look shortly)
Yes and no. The ratchet lever on mine raises and lowers the seat but doesn't do it in a parallel way. The back seems to rise lower more than the front, hence the tilting. However I don't think it would make much difference to your bolster problem.
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Well I've noticed my has dipped in the middle a bit over the last couple of months the seating position is still ok but I will mension it when it goes in for its next service in January if they are going to replace it.
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I love my GTD seats and the headrests are far less obtrusive than on the lower range versions.
IMHO of course
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There are always used gti interiors on eBay could you not try a set?
Gti seats are amazing. My clio had the factory fit recaros which I loved and made the car feel great but were torture after more than an hour. The gti seats are almost as supportive but much more comfortable.
I'm 6ft 4 and 14st and I don't have any issues fitting in either the recaros or the gti seats etc
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Thanks for all the replies here folk. Stick with it and tinker seems to be the way foward.
The other thing I've noticed is that my left leg all the time hits the centre consol when sat which - and this may be in my mind - feels to twist my low body to the right. I'm 14st and 6-ft tall but surely the car is designed to accommodate people bigger then me. My mate bought my old Mk 4 and I had a sit in it yesterday and none of the comfort issues I've mentioned in this thread are evident in the Mk 4.
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somethings wrong there cos I'm 6ft4 and my knees don't touch the dash or steering column at all.
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Have you tried moving the seat back a tad and re-arranging the steering wheel to suit? Could make all the difference! This could be the reason you can't get comfortable?? :undecided:
(measure the distance from seat to steering wheel/pedals at various places and compare with your old Mk IV???)
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somethings wrong there cos I'm 6ft4 and my knees don't touch the dash or steering column at all.
With you being 6'4" I'd guess however that this does actually give you more clearance from the dash etc as you are further back.
Thanks for all the advice anyway folks, much appreciated. Still no luck however so will weigh up my options
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Just read a recent post on the Mk6 section titled 'best 3 things' and the seats on the GTD appear recommended - are they different to the 140 GT TDI?
Another 'issue' I've noticed on my GT TDI is that the pedals seems to be set slightly to the right as you are sat - could this simply be a bad 'ergonomic' position?
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GTD seats have even deeper side bolsters, so you'd only make your original discomfort worse. The base and firmness are the same I think. Fomr the sounds of it; you'd be better off swapping to non-GT/GTD seats (i.e. from an SE or Match); or swapping the car if you really can;t adapt to it. As said before though; I really recommend persevereing and playing with all teh adjustments available first.
Re pedals; not noticed this and I find the ergonomics of the driving position excellent (and I have a bad knee that does not like side forces on it).
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Happy new year folks. I'm back to haunt this thread.
I appeae to be 'overcoming' the bolster problem with the seats in this car but have another question/thought please - do you find that the adjustable lumbar support is inadequate (and what can be doen to resolve this). My previous Golfs - Mk 3 and Mk 4 - had no adjustable lumbar support but nonetheless the seats provided much better low back support.
Thanks again.
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Ok - new thought on the 'comfort' thing for me - I get a numb right leg (especially in the calf) when diving my car which is something I've not noticed in 20-yrs of driving or in any other car or van etc.
The bolsters were initially a problem for me but what could also be a factor is that when I sit in the car, the brake and clutch are pretty central but the acellerator is to the right.
(a) I know many vehicles have pedals in this position but is this what is meant when somesone says the 'pedals are offset' (or is offset only when all the pedals are to the right)?
(b) When you folks use the accellerator, do you let the right leg get funnelled forward by the seat bolsters and then pivot the ankle/foot to the right to hit the accellerator or do you consciously position the foot so that it is in line with the accellerator and just drop the toes in effect to accelerate?
Regards
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Jeez fella, you seem to be over thinking this one. I've never given a thought to any of that stuff, as long as I'm reasonably comfortable, that'll do.
Funny thing is, my wife likes her seat quite upright and slid a couple of notches further forward than me. If she drives my car for even the shortest of journeys, she'll alter the seat. I've driven the full length of France in her car and never bothered to alter the seat.
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Totally overthinking I know.
Like I say, I've never had any issues with any car previously but struggle like hell in this one. Thing that disappoints me most is that I'm gonna loose a lot of money if I change it and also - in all other respects - it's by far and away the best car I've had.
Thanks for the time to respond anyway
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I had a similar problem with my GTD, couldn't get comfortable and always felt like i was leaning to one side / off centre not really sure what it was but something was wrong ( i've had over 30 cars including 2 mk5's and never had this problem ). Problem was whenever i drove the car i was looking for it, even took it to the dealer to check the suspension etc... In the end after five weeks of owning a brand new car i had enough and sold it back to another VW dealer and amazingly for me didn't loose a packet as they were after a demo car. Bought a 59 plate a 105 bhp bluemotion until i decide what to get next.
Simon
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I feel 'lop sided' in so much that my right leg/hip feels overly raised in order to use the accellerator - and I've never experienced anything like this in any other car. It feels like I'm cramping my hip joint.
Obvious advice would be to move seat further back but I;ve tried all of this (and up & down) and still no luck. At end of the day the seat position has to some extend got to be governed by the ability to fully depress the clutch.
Like I say, in all other respects, a top quality, solid motor.
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I had a look at how I sit in the car today. I'm 6'2" with a 34" leg, so you would expect me to have the seat all the way back. This is not the case, the seat is 4 knotches forward from fully back and in it's lowest position. I sit quite bent knee'd with my right heel is more or less between the brake and accelerator pedals, so that my foot can piviot between the two. My thigh is not really supported by the bolster, so my legs are not "funneled" towards the pedals.
My left foot is on the foot rest, and my left leg, also bent, is perfectly comfortable. The steering wheel is adjusted for reach so that with a straight arm, my wrist will rest on the wheel at the 12 o'clock position.
I can't believe that I've just written all this, even thought about it for that matter, but if it helps a fellow Golf owner to get comfortable in his car, then it can only be for the good.
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Thanks, appreciate your time to write all that. I can't believe I can't find a decent driving position but will keep trying before I resort to letting it go :sick:
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Centurian, where are you based?? Perhaps a meet up with a local someone with a GTD may be in order??
Have you tried talking to your dealer, they may have a GTD in stock for you to compare (or even another GT TDI to confirm your seat's are not faulty in some way?)