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Title: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:03
just wondered if i could get some knowledge my car blows out white plumes of smoke every morning but then after about thiry or forty seconds it stops smoking. now i have been told its valve stem oil seals but would just like some reassurance please. oh by the way the car is a 99 golf mk4 agu
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:06
how much smoke ?
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:08
quite a bit not thick white smoke but not far of
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Post by: daz veedub on 28 November 2011, 21:10
cold mornings.....condensation build up maybe, it would be blue if was valve stems wouldnt it
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:11
thats what i was thinking, could just be the moisture in air condensating on the exhaust.

Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:15
there is a lot of water coming out at the same but i am getting a 3" straight through exhaust in a couple of weeks so should i wait and see if that cures it before doing anything else
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daz veedub on 28 November 2011, 21:17
condensation  :wink: look at other cars in traffic etc in the morning you,ll no doubt see the same  :wink:
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:18
ide agree with daz, did it used to do it in the warm weather or is it only since its became cold out that its started to do it?
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daz veedub on 28 November 2011, 21:21
when i owned a 306  :lipsrsealed: couple years back was blue smoke when valve stems were on way out so it wont be them
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:22
its only done it over the past week and at the moment i am only doing short journeys so the water will build up in the exhaust wont it
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daz veedub on 28 November 2011, 21:23
take it for a good run out  :wink: its nowt to worry about tho
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: clipperjay on 28 November 2011, 21:25
Stick a new air filter in it might help!
Condensation gets stuck every cold morning in the mid, center, rear box do you do short journeys every morning if you do then thats your answer mate!
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:27
was it on here there was a thread a few years ago were someone only did short journeys and so much water built up one winter there was a massive ice cube hanging out the back of his exhaust?
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:31
im only doing about two miles to work and then two miles back home so really the car is not at its warmest when i get to work. and i hope i dont get ice cubes out of my exhaust but it would be quite funny
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: clipperjay on 28 November 2011, 21:34
 :grin: :grin:
I tink the chap lived on a slope and it had an icesical over night trust me it wasn't magic LOL!
 Two miles is not enough to get it to full temps but it doesn't matter mate its condensation build up.
They used to put drain holes in the boxes for that reasons but nine out out ten they get clogged up with soot and carbon  :nerd:
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:39
would it be sensible to put a couple of holes in the boxes then it is stainless so it wont rust but will the inner start to come out of the hole if i do drill one
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:42
i wouldnt bother mate not much point imo, moisture in the air + water splashing up off the road ect your going to get a slight bit of corosion over the years on the outside ect. and tbh, the amount of water inside the exhaust in condensation is tiny its going to take years and years and years before it actualy does any damage to the exhaust imo
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:45
fair enough mate as i said im replacing the exhaust in a couple of weeks so will see how much water is in it then thanks for your help thats put my mind at ease
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: clipperjay on 28 November 2011, 21:45
No if you have stainless it won't have holes because it won't rust...... well...... not the life time of the car anyways!
You will FK it up if you start drilling holes i.e it will rust then  :lipsrsealed:
Its normal mate you can warm up your car before you drive it to get temps up the natural force of the fumes will eventually push the water out or do what I do and go home enroute to a hill  :laugh: Okay I live on a hill  :tongue:
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:47
oh yeah forgot stainless hardly rusts :D but yeah anyway no point in putting any holes in, its not going to do any damage just letting the heat of the exhaust and the fumes push the water out
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:49
thanks mate the only downside to that is i live in lincolnshire and that has to be the flatest place known to man lol
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:51
 :grin: :grin:think the biggest hill i go up/down is the curb getting onto my drive so im in a simelar boat :D exept do 30 miles a day so the heat of the exhaust gets rid of any moisture.

could always use it as an excuse to go for a drive around the country roads at the weekend  :evil:
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:54
thanks for all your helps lads i will have to give her a blast
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: clipperjay on 28 November 2011, 21:55
No probs lads!  :smiley:
I live on a hill 850 feet above sea level with three exits both 45%, 65% one is 75% gradient that one is shut at winter!
I don't drive if it snows FK the water  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 November 2011, 21:56
is 75% gradient

75%  :shocked: bet you could have some fun with a sledge on there in winter :D
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:57
i give her a blast when i can but i work a lot of long hours and usually seven days a week so dont get much time to have a fun drive on the country roads
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: clipperjay on 28 November 2011, 21:58
Haaa I've seen Transits go side ways take out a few cars, at that stage the coppers seal up the road!  :evil:

Yeah giving her some beans will help mate!
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: daubs on 28 November 2011, 21:59
that does sound like fun im coming to your house for christmas lol
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: Wayne on 28 November 2011, 23:41
Wite smoke could also be a sign of head gasket trouble  :smiley:
Title: Re: White smoke
Post by: clipperjay on 29 November 2011, 08:38
Wite smoke could also be a sign of head gasket trouble  :smiley:

Nah wayne too many false negatives on this one! :wink:

just wondered if i could get some knowledge my car blows out white plumes of smoke every morning but then after about thiry or forty seconds it stops smoking. now i have been told its valve stem oil seals but would just like some reassurance please. oh by the way the car is a 99 golf mk4 agu