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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Povey on 24 November 2011, 20:15

Title: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Povey on 24 November 2011, 20:15
Other than the obvious, what's the differants between a a non supercharged vr6 and the supercharged version? Any difference in c/r? Manifolds? Anything else big?
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Wayne on 24 November 2011, 20:47
Well you need to drop the c/r plus run standalone mangement :smiley:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: NERF 69 on 24 November 2011, 20:58
Hmmm... Supercharged vr6? Ooft yes please
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Ess_Three on 24 November 2011, 23:12
Well you need to drop the c/r plus run standalone mangement :smiley:

Not on Stage 1 you don't...you don't even need an IC.
Just bolt it on, and go...oodles of torque.

Stage 2 is + IC.

Stage 3 is lower compression, IC., fuelling changes etc IIRC...amd all supplied with an EPROM to fit in the standard ECU.
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: jv on 24 November 2011, 23:26
Exactly, people have been building these for years! Nik Saran / VF Engineering / Stealth :)
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Wayne on 24 November 2011, 23:28
Well you need to drop the c/r plus run standalone mangement :smiley:

Not on Stage 1 you don't...you don't even need an IC.
Just bolt it on, and go...oodles of torque.

Stage 2 is + IC.

Stage 3 is lower compression, IC., fuelling changes etc IIRC...amd all supplied with an EPROM to fit in the standard ECU.

How much boost can you run on the standard c/r then  :undecided:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Ess_Three on 25 November 2011, 09:33
How much boost can you run on the standard c/r then  :undecided:

Not much...4-5 psi maybe?

Then if you go to a smaller pully and more boost, you need (or at least should consider) an IC, bigger injectors and the kit gives a bypass valve too - 7-8 psi I think.

After that, it's low CR time.

I have a couple of mates who bolted a VF Engineering kit on anf had no issues, on standard CR VR6s.
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 25 November 2011, 09:51
I read that the standard vr engine is good for 300bhp, any truth in this?
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Wayne on 25 November 2011, 10:16
I read that the standard vr engine is good for 300bhp, any truth in this?

Well it is a strong engine, it has been suggested that it was designed as a diesel.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: ortega277 on 25 November 2011, 11:37
I heard that they were going to be designed as a turbo diesel so all the internals are strethened ready for the turbo. Don't know how much truth there is in this.
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 25 November 2011, 11:52
I also heard that a lot of VR6 owners are just awesome!  :cool: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Seanl on 25 November 2011, 12:03
I also heard that a lot of VR6 owners are just awesome!  :cool: :grin: :grin:

I heard they were all gay and don't update their rides threads properly.  :huh: :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 25 November 2011, 14:18
I also heard that a lot of VR6 owners are just awesome!  :cool: :grin: :grin:

I heard they were all gay and don't update their rides threads properly.  :huh: :laugh: :kiss:

What's more annoying then anything is i can't comment back! :grin:

I was looking through the thread and there is far too much man love going on! and i don't update very well either!  :grin:

Exactly, people have been building these for years! Nik Saran / VF Engineering / Stealth :)

OMGZ JV, what are you doing in the MK3 section.  :shocked: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Len on 25 November 2011, 14:20
Exactly, people have been building these for years! Nik Saran / VF Engineering / Stealth :)


Also Storm, but dont believe their RR figures!
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Len on 25 November 2011, 14:21
And yes Wherry your thread is very gay! :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: F17BAD on 25 November 2011, 14:41
theirs a video of the acceleration of that Ian guys set up, in the for sale section

does not look very fast at all... Turbo ftw :smiley:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: tweed on 25 November 2011, 14:52
also the obd1 bottom end is stronger than the obd2  :wink:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Adam on 25 November 2011, 16:01
A mate has a MK3 VR6 Supercharged, just bolted on by storm. No other mods other than a BMC air filter and it flys.

Potential for 270BHP+ with a few more mods. 
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 25 November 2011, 16:10
also the obd1 bottom end is stronger than the obd2  :wink:

Why?
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Seanl on 25 November 2011, 17:00


What's more annoying then anything is i can't comment back! :grin:

I was looking through the thread and there is far too much man love going on! and i don't update very well either!  :grin:
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Yes, yes there is, and no, no you don't.  :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Ess_Three on 25 November 2011, 17:02
I read that the standard vr engine is good for 300bhp, any truth in this?

Good for 300 BHP how?

N/A you'd be very lucky to get 300 BHP - even with wild cams, big valves and seriuous headwork, I think 300 BHP is out of reach...and if you could, it would be so non-standard that you could hardly call it 'standard.

Forced induction?
I guess so...with a decent IC, bigger injectors, a small pully on a VF S/charger...then I suppose 300 BHP is achievable on standard internals.

Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Ess_Three on 25 November 2011, 17:06
also the obd1 bottom end is stronger than the obd2  :wink:

Why?

I think he was joking...
The engine is the same. OBD doesn't even exist in the UK - it's an American thing...the stepper motor TB of the later cars and switch from coil pack to dizzy was about the only change...the hardware of the engines are the same.
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: tweed on 25 November 2011, 19:02
also the obd1 bottom end is stronger than the obd2  :wink:

Why?

I think he was joking...
The engine is the same. OBD doesn't even exist in the UK - it's an American thing...the stepper motor TB of the later cars and switch from coil pack to dizzy was about the only change...the hardware of the engines are the same.

yep It's only because I have one.
 but the aba obd1 is ment to be better than the aba obd2. I read this on vwvortex http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4966752-TECH-Differences-between-OBDI-amp-OBDII-heads-and-blocks (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4966752-TECH-Differences-between-OBDI-amp-OBDII-heads-and-blocks)
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: F17BAD on 25 November 2011, 20:07
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=206186.0

imo, this does not look fast ?
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: leigh_harty on 25 November 2011, 20:35
My mates old VrT was running 412bhp on full boost and around 330 turned down (figures not accuate)... for around 5 years without fault. Eventually the engine went because he ignored a faulty waterpump and a piston let go. Dropped a sharan vr6 in there and ran about 380 for a good while until sold

Many insane and loads of unusable and wasted power

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p119/leigh_harty/IMG_0276-1.jpg)
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p119/leigh_harty/IMG_0278.jpg)
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Ess_Three on 25 November 2011, 20:50

yep It's only because I have one.
 but the aba obd1 is ment to be better than the aba obd2. I read this on vwvortex http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4966752-TECH-Differences-between-OBDI-amp-OBDII-heads-and-blocks (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4966752-TECH-Differences-between-OBDI-amp-OBDII-heads-and-blocks)

US engines are different...their gearboxes too.
Aren't UK 2.8 VR6s AAA engine codes?
And 2.9s ABV?

That article is referring ro the ABA - that's a 4 cylinder!  :tongue:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Wayne on 25 November 2011, 21:42
Aren't UK 2.8 VR6s AAA engine codes?
And 2.9s ABV?

That article is referring ro the ABA - that's a 4 cylinder!  :tongue:

Yes 2.8 is AAA and 2.9 ABV :afro:
Title: Re: Vr6 supercharged??
Post by: Ess_Three on 25 November 2011, 21:50
Aren't UK 2.8 VR6s AAA engine codes?
And 2.9s ABV?

That article is referring ro the ABA - that's a 4 cylinder!  :tongue:

Yes 2.8 is AAA and 2.9 ABV :afro:

Cheers Wayne. Thought they were  :smiley: