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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: naa on 21 November 2011, 17:32
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Right - I have managed to track down two GTD DSG's each with different specs both within a couple of 100 pounds of each other price wise. Can't choose so need some help. Both metallic black both 18" alloys. Car 1. Parking sensors, Sat Nav (without 6CD player) and ACC. Car 2. Parking sensors, Sat Nav (without 6CD player), sunroof and Luxury Pack.
I felt that the black car with no sunroof (old car had sunroof) felt a little claustrophobic inside, but I guess it's what you get used to. So it's a case of do I go for ACC or do I go for Sunroof and luxury pack?
Thanks :smiley:
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Sunroof for me. Not only is it a nice addition, it will set it apart from all the others.
I find the ride on 18" wheels perfectly acceptable, and don't see the need for ACC.
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Drive them both then decide - if it were a GTI I'd say the ACC is a must but not on a GTD but I've not driven a GTD with 18's.
Both sound nice, I love sunrooooooves :wink:
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Sunroof for me. Not only is it a nice addition, it will set it apart from all the others.
I find the ride on 18" wheels perfectly acceptable, and don't see the need for ACC.
+1 the sunroof is brilliant in the summer miles better than ACC which is just a gimmick, and at 700 quid also its just kept in comfort mode all the the time. Whats the milage on them? :wink:
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Would like to try them both but one is sitting the other side of the Channel at the moment. Delivery in 2 weeks time (during which I will have to use other half's MR2 :sad: )
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Both cars are brand new :grin:
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Roof for me then :wink:
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Get the sunroof one mate! I've got 18's on my GTI and no ACC and it's fine imo. :wink:
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My input:
Their both technology that can additionally go wrong! Level Still
Roofs Leak and Adds weight up high. Boo to the sunroof version.
I would say the golf is somewhat cavernous inside anyway so I don't really require a sunroof when Air conditioning works so well.
Rear view mirrors folding and dipping can be useful when parking esp in tight spaces.
And as for ACC well, some :evil: old :laugh: people like it and could be deemed a good upgrade. I've not really found myself wanting it though!
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If I had the choice Ann, I'd go for ACC, but as Mr_F says, some *old* people like it :cool:, my GTD I feel is just on the edge of uncomfortable - not all the time by any means - but an uneven road surface will have you jiggling around in your seat!
But you gotta go with your requirements/needs :smiley:
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I have 18's and ACC on my petrol gti and I hate it when the suspention is set to normal (it feels like a civic type R on sport good from time to time ) and have mine set to comfort all the time apart from going mental. Thing is we are not sure if the diesel suspension is exactly the same stiffnes as petrol suspension.
So drive ant deisel with 18's acc or not and go from there, if it's to hard get ACC.
Plus sunroofs are gay, noisy when closed even with the cover, worse when open, burns your bonse when your bald and messes up my golden locks if i was in full drag which I would if I had a sunroof.
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The thing is ACC for me is the difference of loving the car and hating it and For me a sunroof isn't.
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By the way ACC or dsg..... Dsg every day.
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I have met.black GTD on 18"s and with the two choices I'd go sunroof. I've not missed having ACC or the luxury pack. I do miss my sunroof though.
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I rarely opened the sunroof on poor little dead car, but I liked the feeling of space that the light gave. Oh dear, I am as confused as ever, and now other half wants me to get a Merc 250 cdi sport - don't like - too big - too sedate and grown up and the salesmen (well one of them at least) are misogynists who get arsey when the realise you know something about the car you are viewing and can't be conned. (VW salesmen much nicer!)
Sorry about rant - had a run in with Merc salesman today who attempted to tell me that the items on the standard spec were all extras and wouldn't I be a lucky little girl :angry: :shocked:
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Ann:
Get the Merc.
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Ann:
Get the Merc. It's a superior car in every way to a GTD. In comparison, the GTD is a buzz box.
Apart from the fact they're tiny inside! I'm 6'2" and with the drivers seat in my position there is absolutely no room in the back and the B pillar is a massive blind spot! However if your short then this isn't an issue,
The stereo is annoying as well with the stupid flap over the screen!! :angry:
Get a GTD....
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Ann:
Get the Merc.
Except the lack of ability to drive anywhere in winter...unlike the FWD GTD.
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Ann:
Get the Merc.
Except the lack of ability to drive anywhere in winter...unlike the FWD GTD.
Not so. Worked a treat last winter with winter tyres.
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What kind of roads are you likely to be driving on? Here in the moorlands of North Yorkshire I really find ACC beneficial to my comfort. At the same time though I appreciate the sunroof during the summer months, if possible I would give them both a go and see which floats your boat the most.
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Things I loved about my GTD DSG:
Nippy - great for city or motorway - great grip and stability - intuitive driving position and dashboard layout - comfortable supportive seats - roomy - easy to park
What I didn't like:
Odd rattles - road noise a bit intrusive - fuel consumption not as good as I was led to believe
Having test driven the Merc 250Cdi sport: (looking at second hand, but less than 8,000 on clock)
Things I liked:
Felt comfortable and handled well on motorway, responsive engine
What I didn't like:
Wouldn't like as town car - felt too big. Rear vision a bit compromised. Media/satnav control behind left elbow (although there is voice control). Dash lay out a little fiddly. Horrible handbrake!! Road noise much greater than I would have expected from premium car, no audible parking sensor - just visual which means can't watch the road and parking sensor at same time (annoying), Diesel engine sounded like a tractor, Extremely condescending, patronising salesman!
So I think for me the Golf wins - perhaps it's just the familiarity - I feel at home in it.
Other half likes the Merc :rolleyes:
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xeijVgoTSxE/TDbxHn_g32I/AAAAAAAAAS0/FcZXp_onmUg/s1600/maid2_u78p_u00g.jpg)
Cleaned and tidied.
Back on topic please - Sunroof or ACC as Ann clearly won't be buying the used Merc.
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i wouldn't get the sunroof one as they're really heavy and they take up head room
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i wouldn't get the sunroof one as they're really heavy and they take up head room
Less added weight than DSG...
Do they rob headroom? I'm 6'3" and could wear a hat in mine...so you'd have to be come kind of proper Gigantor to find the headroom lacking!
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Sunroof for me. Perfectly happy with the ride on mine without ACC.
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I'm sure the weight of the sunroof will make absolutely no difference to the dynamics of the car during everyday driving. At 10-10ths on a track maybe, but for the daily slog, if there is a car available with one, I'd go for it.
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From Top Gear's road test of the GTD (http://www.topgear.com/uk/volkswagen/golf-6/road-test/gtd-3dr)................
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Talking of which, the GTD doesn't have GTI suspension, it has the normal Golf's ‘sport' alternative, which isn't as perky. If you pay for the adaptive damping option - and you should - the ride is good and the body control OK, but you have to fight your way through a layer of sog before you get it to show its cornering smarts.
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And Ann, as you have said, you never opened the sunroof of your last car.
(of topic, but that Merc salesman.... disgusting!!)
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Ann:
Fly high and get a GTI. Spec ACC and you've got one of the best road cars around.
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Ha - well that's Top Gear for you. I agree the GTD isn't really a hot hatch, but it looks good, performs well and I will say corners well. Don't fancy the insurance the fuel costs that go with the GTI, although it is a beautiful car it isn't quite me. (like the suspension just a bit soggy)
Have now put deposit on new car :grin:
It should arrive with the dealer next week. Metallic Black, 5 door, 18" alloys, Sat Nav, Lux Pack, Parking Sensors, Sunroof and colour MFC (don't know why it should have the MFC in colour - a bit of a gimmick)
Am happy now
Thanks for help everyone!
Ann
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Top Gear car reviews Golf GTD 12/20
Golf GTI 17/20
Do yourself a favour and move up to a GTI and specced with ACC this car is almost perfect.
Ok I now see you have ordered your new GTD, all the best when you get it, watch out for those pesky barstewards turning out in front of you :grin:
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You've chosen well.
It's very unfortunate that circumstances lead you to having to find a replacement car, but seeing as you are able to have such a nicely speced car, in a comparatively short length of time, I think you have come out of it very well.
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I think thats the one I'd have ordered, nice job - pics next please :wink:
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Ann:
Fly high and get a GTI. Spec ACC and you've got one of the best road cars around.
No the GTD is miles better with DSG :wink:
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I had adaptive suspension on a previous car and every time I got to the end of a twisty road I realised I still had the car in 'comfort'. It was a complete waste of time. If you have DSG are you really going to drop the gear lever to 'S' and then fart about with suspension setting to 'sport' everytime you want to overtake a bus or go a little faster. After the first month boring the wife and kids to death about your suspension settings, you'll never touch it again. Get the lux pack and sunroof. My GTI on 18s and fixed rate suspension is absolutely fine. I also have the sunroof which brightens up the cabin loads. looks cool too.
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If you have DSG are you really going to drop the gear lever to 'S' and then fart about with suspension setting to 'sport' everytime you want to overtake a bus
:laugh: That sums it up for me!
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I think some people here have not quite got the point.... They talk of their GTI with/without ACC/sunroof, but what Ann has asked is appertaining to the GTD which in standard suspension form has the ordinary Golf 'Sport' springs/dampers *NOT* the GTI kit....................
Although I wonder what the GTD ACC kit is based on????
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Ann, I have 18" wheels on my GTD and don't have ACC. For me, the ride's absolutely fine and I don't find it uncomfortable.
Enjoy your new car. Had mine just over 4 months now and still enjoying it! :smiley: