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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: rowlers on 03 May 2005, 18:59
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Any body got any suggestions as to why my 1990 16v, could be spluttering when hot?? It starts and runs great from clod, and even when only just warmed up. When the engine is hot though (getting worse now weather is warming up!) it start as if its misfiring, then with a few blips of throtlle it even out and runs great above 1000rpm. However when I lift off throttle approacing a junction or what ever, it idels down to about 400rpm, on the verge of cutting out - it oftens does!
Its got new plugs, leads, dizzy cap and roter. The air cleaner and air flow meter has been cleaned out. The warm air flap "flaps" easily. Any suggestions???
I'm guessing its a temp sensor or something but I'm not a mechanic!! Help!!
Cheers
Rowlers
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sounds like the hall sender within the dizzy itself. the hall sender is the wee electrical connector you see coming out of the dizzy. its breaks down when the car is really warm, i.e been sitting stationary in traffic etc
to replace it you need to remove the actual dizzy then split it down. to split it down you need to remove the pin from the rear of the dizzy
make sure you mark the centre line on the dizzy against the block, otherwise your timing will be screwed when you go to refit it.
alternativily buy a whole new dizzy if you dont fancy attempting to replace it
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check your fuel/air mixture.
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Cheers for replies, the air/fuel mixture is OK.
It does start when you say - for example sitting in stationary traffic. Is it a big job? Sounds complicated!!! How much do the parts cost???
Does the haynes/bentley manual cover this job??
Thanks
rowlers
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no its not particulary complicated. im not sure if haynes would cover it though
ask stuart from ECP of here for the price for a hall sender, they are £31+vat from EuroCar Parts but he will get you discount as your a member of the site
also, new distributor is £68+vat, with a £60 surcharge on return of your old dizzy to ECP
new dizzy is the easiest/least hassle way to fix it if youdont feel confident breaking your existing dizzy down to replace the hall sender
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Cheers,
I'll order the HSU, and have a go at replacing it was quoted £108 from VW for the HSU!!!
How do I get the discount from ECP?? Can I order online or do I have to phone and ask for Stuart (second Name?)
Thanks Again!
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he has his own forum on here :wink:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=31.0
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cheers gambit
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Just a thought - does the hall sender have anything to do with the cooling? Like a temp sender or something?? The coolant needle never gets out of the white, except when statiomery in traffic and only then a little.
A mate reckons the thermostat is stuck open so the car never gets hot. oil temp reading is normally about 70 to 85.
cheers again you knowledgable ones!
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Your thermostat is definitely stuck open (I had exact same symptoms,ie. low oil temp reading and low water temp reading), however, I am not sure if that alone would account for the problems you are facing. I would try to replace the thermostat first and then see where you are with the problem.
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hall sender has nothing to do with cooling, the hall sender sends a signal to the ecu to tell the coil to fire a spark. when the hall sender goes wonky its sends the signal at the wrong time. causing it to misfire splutter etc
it works on electromagnetic pulse
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for 60 quid i'd change the whole distributor. they do tend to die over time.
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thanks again fellas.
Hall sender has been fitted today, (i've just collected it from garage - I bottled doing the job myself!!) and it starts better, idels smoother, taking it out later so will let you knw!
Also its going back in on saturday moring for a new clutch cable, the one on it is a fairly new motor factors one, and it keeps slippling so I'm told, a genuine VW will sort it. Also I'm told the temp sender is effed, a motors factors copy makes it worse, so I'm also getting a genuine temp sender fitted on sat!
Cheers will let you know how things get on!
Rowlers
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would the hall sender cause me cold start problems. I have had a similar prob with the revs increasing etc. Thought my clutch was slipping but its intermittent
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its usually the opposite in that the car is really warm. the rev counter needle will actually bounce about all over the show rather just flucuate.
yours sounds more like a weak spark.
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yeah changed the sprak plugs recently and the car has been crap at starting ever since. trouble is i canged the fuel filter as well. dunno what caused the problem tho but the revs do fluctuate. hmmmm