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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Lewy on 07 November 2011, 21:57
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Feel for the bloke, as Jacko was a fruit loop, and he may have been a scapegoat.
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if it wasnt MJ then noone would of even took a second look at the whole case, the only reason he's bin wound guilty is because of who died
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For 100k a month he maybe should have kept him alive tho ?
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Poor sod just being used as a scapegoat, oh well I'm sure he will make stacks more money when he writes a book.
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Yeah you are right, In America they treat Murder and Drug crimes very seriously he will get some serious time.
But I am sure he will appeal and get his chance to sue the Jacksons in the end.....
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For 100k a month he maybe should have kept him alive tho ?
Maybe he was too smashed off of his tits to come round.
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Scapegoat.
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Yeah you are right, In America they treat Murder and Drug crimes very seriously he will get some serious time.
But I am sure he will appeal and get his chance to sue the Jacksons in the end.....
Maximum of four years apparently.
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Was Jacko a kiddie fiddler though?
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Yeah you are right, In America they treat Murder and Drug crimes very seriously he will get some serious time.
But I am sure he will appeal and get his chance to sue the Jacksons in the end.....
Maximum of four years apparently.
holy fck, I see loads of crime programs where people get serious time in some harsh places for less. Spose its California for you, bet the Jacko's sue his arse in a civil court now or at least wait until his book has sold millions first.....
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I think any 'personal physician' prescribing Propofol to help someone sleep has serious questions to answer...
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oh well I'm sure he will make stacks more money when he writes a book.
yeah but is it worth loosing 4 years of your life for, missing out on 4 years of your kids growing up. 4 years of freedom.
imo no, i know jackson has lost his life ect. and i always thought he would be found not guilty but hey im no lawyer or judge and havent really been following too closely, just what i catch on the news every so oftern.
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I think any 'personal physician' prescribing Propofol to help someone sleep has serious questions to answer...
Exactly
Massive negligence that resulted in the death of a patient = Involuntary manslaughter
Verdict sounds spot on to me !!
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Guilty I'm afraid... Murray was put in charge, and trusted with the life of another human being, regardless of who it was, he was clearly not in charge of the situation he was trusted with...
Thom
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Conrad Murray was only thinking of the money. He is guilty of negligence and malpractice and deserves what he gets.
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What about the company who was supplying the drugs to Murray. Surely these kind of things need to be monitored. The whole things stinks of pure lies and I think there is more people involved in this.
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Yeah you are right, In America they treat Murder and Drug crimes very seriously he will get some serious time.
But I am sure he will appeal and get his chance to sue the Jacksons in the end.....
Maximum of four years apparently.
holy fck, I see loads of crime programs where people get serious time in some harsh places for less. Spose its California for you, bet the Jacko's sue his arse in a civil court now or at least wait until his book has sold millions first.....
it wasn't murder... it was involuntary manslaughter... there's a big difference between that and murder... hence the lower tariff
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If he was paid all that money surely he could have been by his side 24/7
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Should been given a medal for finishing off a child molester :lipsrsealed:
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Should been given a medal for finishing off a child molester :lipsrsealed:
idiot
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Guilty I'm afraid... Murray was put in charge, and trusted with the life of another human being, regardless of who it was, he was clearly not in charge of the situation he was trusted with...
Thom
Agree also!
America has built up a massive legal drug industry and profits massively from it. The least you expect is doctors to be on the ball.. he clearly wasnt and profited from MJ's drug use. I dont think you can deny that MJ had a problem due to the massive interest in his life and felt he needed these drugs to get away from it all. Its just a shame that he didnt have the people around him to support and guide him through the tougher parts of his life.
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Guilty I'm afraid... Murray was put in charge, and trusted with the life of another human being, regardless of who it was, he was clearly not in charge of the situation he was trusted with...
Thom
Agree also!
America has built up a massive legal drug industry and profits massively from it. The least you expect is doctors to be on the ball.. he clearly wasnt and profited from MJ's drug use. I dont think you can deny that MJ had a problem due to the massive interest in his life and felt he needed these drugs to get away from it all. Its just a shame that he didnt have the people around him to support and guide him through the tougher parts of his life.
Amen.
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Should been given a medal for finishing off a child molester :lipsrsealed:
idiot
You what ?
Sorry are you a closet jackson fan, people are quick to forget all the bad things about his life. Ok so it was never 100% proved but if he was which is quite possible as he was a fruit loop he deserved to put out his misery same as every other fiddler.
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some people need to know what they are talking about before spewing their nonsense opinions and making themselves look stupid
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some people need to know what they are talking about before spewing their nonsense opinions and making themselves look stupid
How do you know it's nonsense he bought everyone off that was involved .. why would you do that unless you had too.
As i said short memories :rolleyes:
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In America the super rich get exactly what they want, when they want it.
If MJ wanted drugs, he would be able to get exactly what he wanted.
The super rich are treated like gods. Dr.Murray is just a scapegoat.
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In America the super rich get exactly what they want, when they want it.
If MJ wanted drugs, he would be able to get exactly what he wanted.
The super rich are treated like gods. Dr.Murray is just a scapegoat.
In what way is he a scapegoat? did he not profit from some elses misfortune/addiction? The state really has nothing to gain out of sentencing Murray
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some people need to know what they are talking about before spewing their nonsense opinions and making themselves look stupid
i'd say it was actually 50/50 but interesting read none the less but even if it wasn't sexual a grown man sleeping in a bed with kids other than his own is just wrong. :sick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson)
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The State will only spend money on him whilst imprisoned and loose the TAX he would have paid whilst out earning money being a Doctor.
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Wait a second................................ Nope dont give a monkeys :laugh:
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Jackson was never a child molester, it's all those other brainwashed satan worshipping tramps who grace the very top of the music industry who practice that sick sh!t. Jackson was murdered for who he was, one of the most famous figures in the world who failed to comply with the music industry and media regulations. You step outside the box, you get taken out. They have been trying to drag him down for decades, hence the constant molestation accusations. Jackson knew the music industry for what it really is and was a threat to it. He had to be killed off before he began his tour.
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Jackson was never a child molester, it's all those other brainwashed satan worshipping tramps who grace the very top of the music industry who practice that sick sh!t. Jackson was murdered for who he was, one of the most famous figures in the world who failed to comply with the music industry and media regulations. You step outside the box, you get taken out. They have been trying to drag him down for decades, hence the constant molestation accusations. Jackson knew the music industry for what it really is and was a threat to it. He had to be killed off before he began his tour.
seriously... so the music industry paid all those people to say jacko molested kids, IMO either he molested them OR the families thought hey lets make a bit of money, you know like 90% of americans do and sue anyone as soon as they can... also i dont belive the music industry paid anyone or had anything to do with his death, he was addicted to drugs and weather dr murray gave jackson the fatal overdose or jackson did it himself he accidently overdosed (either through his own fault or through dr murrays) and consequently died. the music industry had nothing to do with it imo.
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Jacko was a messed up soul like most addicts, he had a gift for sure.
I think that Murray is a scapegoat, had the obvious signs be heeded then Murray would have been struck off long before Jacko died.
Many eyes are turned when the money is flowing their way, only for them to cast judgement when it is interupted and blame needs to be apportioned.
The guilty parties surplace to Murray now get another roll of he dice
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Jackson was never a child molester, it's all those other brainwashed satan worshipping tramps who grace the very top of the music industry who practice that sick sh!t. Jackson was murdered for who he was, one of the most famous figures in the world who failed to comply with the music industry and media regulations. You step outside the box, you get taken out. They have been trying to drag him down for decades, hence the constant molestation accusations. Jackson knew the music industry for what it really is and was a threat to it. He had to be killed off before he began his tour.
Are you on drugs ? :lipsrsealed:
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In America the super rich get exactly what they want, when they want it.
If MJ wanted drugs, he would be able to get exactly what he wanted.
The super rich are treated like gods. Dr.Murray is just a scapegoat.
In what way is he a scapegoat? did he not profit from some elses misfortune/addiction? The state really has nothing to gain out of sentencing Murray
I'm saying if you are Michael Jackson you get exactly what you want, when you want it(well did).
I doubt anyone would of been able to say 'no' to him.
Sorry to say but he was responsible for his own downfall, like most drug addicts.
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In America the super rich get exactly what they want, when they want it.
If MJ wanted drugs, he would be able to get exactly what he wanted.
The super rich are treated like gods. Dr.Murray is just a scapegoat.
You dont have to be rich, Ill get you what you want when you want :lipsrsealed:
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In America the super rich get exactly what they want, when they want it.
If MJ wanted drugs, he would be able to get exactly what he wanted.
The super rich are treated like gods. Dr.Murray is just a scapegoat.
You dont have to be rich, Ill get you what you want when you want :lipsrsealed:
Can you get cake?
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hash cakes?
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Remember Brass Eye? :grin:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g5kUBwVbCw&feature=related
hahahahahaha made me trample cows or was that the acid? :grin:
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Brass eye? Must be before my time am not as old as most the f**k*rs on here
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I like 'cake'
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:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: this was so funny when it came out, Brass eye was ground breaking and ruffled loads of feathers
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Cronic Basildon Doughnuts :laugh:
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i don't need to be in a closet to be a fan of michael jacksons music. he was a legend with a very troubled life right from the start. There was not one shred of evidence that he touched any children and it was bad advice from his lawyers to pay off the first accusation. he was on tour at the time! After that the notion was implanted in everyone and that made everything worse.
Michael jackson was on a mind bending concoction of drugs way before conrad murray came along. However, when you have the power of life and death in your hands, no amount of money should have persuaded him to supply propofol as a sleeping aid as it simply isn't best practice! If it was anyone else it would have probably made it worse for murray not better.
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seriously... so the music industry paid all those people to say jacko molested kids, IMO either he molested them OR the families thought hey lets make a bit of money, you know like 90% of americans do and sue anyone as soon as they can... also i dont belive the music industry paid anyone or had anything to do with his death, he was addicted to drugs and weather dr murray gave jackson the fatal overdose or jackson did it himself he accidently overdosed (either through his own fault or through dr murrays) and consequently died. the music industry had nothing to do with it imo.
Not so much the music industry but rather the media. Also in defence of him being a molester, surely if your that type your not going to let kids in your house in full knowedge of everyone, they would have to be real stupid. Or is MJ really that stupid?
You could say there is a drug problem in the mainstream music industry in general. Many have or had drug problems wether it be prescription or harder stuff. Nobody questions where the get them from when they know they have problems. Too easy for them to get it. You could say because there famous and can get what they want but who are the people supplying these superstars while at the same time keeping themselves out of the media spotlight. Surely there is a ring of Conrad Murrays out there hooking them up with anything for the right price. I don't know, a lot of bad stuff goes on in that industry that stays shielded and its always bothered me why. Especially when so many fall victim. Maybe not dead. Yet! But fall into the trap so to speak.
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In America the super rich get exactly what they want, when they want it.
If MJ wanted drugs, he would be able to get exactly what he wanted.
The super rich are treated like gods. Dr.Murray is just a scapegoat.
In what way is he a scapegoat? did he not profit from some elses misfortune/addiction? The state really has nothing to gain out of sentencing Murray
I'm saying if you are Michael Jackson you get exactly what you want, when you want it(well did).
I doubt anyone would of been able to say 'no' to him.
Sorry to say but he was responsible for his own downfall, like most drug addicts.
Yes.. you cannot argue that ultimately he was responsible for his own downfall. But lets not forget the duty of care of a doctor. Murray is guilty as sin for providing the service he did!
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This is true, the doctor did have a duty of care.
However he was just doing what he was paid to do, fill MJ full of drugs.
The problem with people like MJ, is its never going to end well.
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You would have thought the doctors first duty of care would have been to get him some help... but yes, its never going to end as people determined to take drugs will just seek a fix elsewhere. The dependency become much more mental than physical. :undecided:
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Jackson was never a child molester, it's all those other brainwashed satan worshipping tramps who grace the very top of the music industry who practice that sick sh!t. Jackson was murdered for who he was, one of the most famous figures in the world who failed to comply with the music industry and media regulations. You step outside the box, you get taken out. They have been trying to drag him down for decades, hence the constant molestation accusations. Jackson knew the music industry for what it really is and was a threat to it. He had to be killed off before he began his tour.
WOW! That is some strong sh1t you are smoking!!
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WOW! That is some strong sh1t you are smoking!!
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Yes, 'Con' rad Murray hooked me up with it. Jeeezoo!!