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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Horney on 03 November 2011, 21:38
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/274696/biofuel_shakeup_will_affect_thousands.html
nick
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well the only thing i can think of is put a newer engine in the mk2. or run it on super unleaded til they change that too
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am alrite i run on super unleaded :smiley:
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classic car owner rukkus :grin:
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Volkswagen:
With few exceptions, E10 is cleared for use in all Volkswagen passenger cars with petrol engines. The exceptions are the following models with the first generation of FSI engines:
Lupo 1,4 (77 kW) made from August 2000 to November 2003 (model year 2001 - 2004);
Polo 1,4 FSI (63 kW) made from February 2002 to June 2006 (model year 2002 - 2006);
Golf IV 1,6 FSI (81 kW) made from November 2001 to May 2004 (model year 2002 - 2004);
Golf IV Variant 1,6 FSI (81 kW) made from October 2001 to October 2006 (model year 2002 -
2006);
Bora 1,6 FSI (81 kW) made from October 2001 to September 2005 (model year 2002 - 2005);
Bora Variant 1,6 FSI (81 kW) made from October 2001 to September 2005 (model year 2002 - 2005);
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Golf V 1,4 FSI (66 kW) made from November 2003 to November 2004 (model year 2004 - 2005);
Golf V 1,6 FSI (85 kW) made from August 2003 to May 2004 (model year 2004);
Golf V 2,0 FSI (110 kW) made from January 2004 to May 2004 (model year 2004);
Touran 1,6 FSI (85 kW) made from November 2002 to May 2004 (model year 2003 - 2004);
Touran 2,0 FSI (110 kW) made from October 2003 to May 2004 (model year 2004).
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so mk2 would be fine? am confused
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It would seem so. My track MKII only ever runs super anyway. but from 2013 I'll have to look more closely at the problem.
nick
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Hope my MK1s OK on it although it only really ever has super, but that might not be available one day so would dread to think what i'd do if I couldn't fuel it properly.
I've read that all this Ethonal sh*t is in no way green! to produce is it just as harmful if not worse than it is to burn petrol. Not sure how much truth there is in that but I wouldn't be surprised..
Reminds me of the diesel hype... everybody buys a diesel and then the price goes up and technically the fumes produced from them are far worse than cleaner burning petrol engine.
ANother thing, why are hybrids always petrol!?
We are merely puppets! :angry:
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Bio-fuels will never be be environmentally sound. It takes up fertile ground that would be better used producing food and usually involves pesticides, irrigation and destruction of habitats.
What's the true motivation here? These companies caring for the environment?..... I think not! Just another way for fuel producers to screw us over with hiked up fuel prices. I'm still waiting for the cost of petrol to come down now that we've sorted out another dictator excuse in the middle east :lipsrsealed:
Same argument for "zero emission" charge up electric cars, where does the electricity come from? Jokers.
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diesel FTW :grin:
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diesel FTW :grin:
Used chip fat for the win! :grin:
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mk2 will be fine on E10 at worst when the % get a bit hight you may need the budget mod of upping the fuel pressure a bit or a new eeprom
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this country and it goverment are really starting to boil my p!ss!
why dont the world leaders hit the countries thats have billions of cars and cause far more polution than the uk,
the goverment will prices us out with fuel prices so we all buy sh!ty nissan leafs!
well they will only shoot themselves in the foot when people cant afford to run cars so that means
no money from road taxes,
no money to insurance companies
no money to dealers/garages for maintenance and buying cars
and so on.
f**k em for all i care :angry:
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Thank god the mk2 will still be able to run off it!
Would this be more to do with the decline of oil and finding other sources of fuel for when it all runs out?
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Volkswagen:
With few exceptions, E10 is cleared for use in all Volkswagen passenger cars with petrol engines. The exceptions are the following models with the first generation of FSI engines:
Lupo 1,4 (77 kW) made from August 2000 to November 2003 (model year 2001 - 2004);
Please excuse my ignorance but my gf has the above car. So the mk2 will be fine on E10 but the newer Lupo won't be? :undecided:
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You'll have to run the Lupo on Super when standard unleaded becomes E10. After 2013 when all petrol is E10 you'll have to use additives.
Nick
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You'll have to run the Lupo on Super when standard unleaded becomes E10. After 2013 when all petrol is E10 you'll have to use additives.
Nick
Thanks Nick, I get that, I just wondered why the archaic mk2 will be ok and the newer technology of the Lupo fails? Sodding government :angry:
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mk2 engine is elativly low tech, as long as the injectors squirt something in that goes bang when ignited by a spark after been squeezed it'll run on it.
you may have to twerk the fueling up as you need slightly more ethanol than petrol but on a mk2 you can do that by tweeking the fpr.
on a more modern car that uses closed loop lambda lots and quite a few vw's have widebands on the std ecu they are constantly fine tuneing to run on theer target AFR's these AFR's are set for petrol not petrol ethanol mix so the ecu will fue; trim to one extreem then sh!t itself and compain before engageing lame mode or just genraly running awfull.
can be fixxed with some ecu tweeks on most cars tho
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I always run the mk2 on optimax so not to worried untill they change that but slightly more concerned about the mk3 as I run this on normal unleaded,I guess I'll had to run that on optimax now aswell! :sad:
born free taxed to death comes to mind! :sick:
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The problem with it is the Ethenol rots fuel compenents and causes corrosion of metal fuel tanks etc.
Although you can wind the ignition more advanced for more power it has a lower calorific content so you need more if it. Therefore your MPG will drop.
Nick
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Bio-fuels will never be be environmentally sound.
Wait, don't tell me... You are a research professor in bio-technology ?
or maybe you just have a crystal ball and already know all about future technological developments?
If that's the case can I have next Saturday's lotto results please?
Bio fuels dont have to come from arable land.
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Bio-fuels will never be be environmentally sound.
Wait, don't tell me... You are a research professor in bio-technology ?
or maybe you just have a crystal ball and already know all about future technological developments?
If that's the case can I have next Saturday's lotto results please?
Bio fuels dont have to come from arable land.
That's my opinion and one shared by many others.
What are the options then big guy? There's algae harvesting which is fairly high yielding, with sadly very little interest or investment. Anything worth a look gets snapped up or shut-down by the big oil companies. Its all relative as at the end of the day we'll still get fisted for it at the pumps.
7 billion and counting with even more people wanting and becoming reliant on transport. I read enough to understand the implications of population increase and the demands we're set to place on the earth.
I just had a quick look in my crystal ball for you: Forget cars, the safe money is on buying a boat for water world ;)
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Ah! but.....Hydrogen?
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Ah! but.....Hydrogen?
It's about time this kicked off, mass production style.
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Cold Fusion - now thats where its really at!
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So would you be better off retaining K-jet over Digi 3.2 ?!?
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Cold Fusion - now thats where its really at!
Got that one figured out then? :tongue:
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diesel FTW :grin:
LIKE!! :grin:
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mk2 engine is relativly low tech, as long as the injectors squirt something in that goes bang when ignited by a spark after been squeezed it'll run on it.
This made me chuckle! Mk2 generally runs on super so all good there.
But as soon as someone comes up with a cold fusion kit for an 8v, I'm there!