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General => The garage => Topic started by: shaft69 on 02 November 2011, 18:58
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My car is mapped with APR stage 1 map, looking to get stage 2 map done or r-tech spec 2 custom map. Phone APR mobile agent said want stage 2 map £245 no cheaper although i have stage 1. Phoned tuningworkes they'll do stage 2 £145 due to me having stage 1 its cheaper. Spoke to mobile man again said £245 no cheaper makes no differece if i've had stage 1, completely different ifo from tuning werkes. Awesomegti where map was done want £360+vat for stage 2 revo cos they dont to APR anymore, sods they are no help from awesomegti just want my money. So either tuning werkes or r-tech but leaning to r-tech custom 2 map.
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R-tech hands down mate!
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X2 won't find any better service
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I know nicks top remap my old mk4, defo going to r-tech I think.
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All this Stage 1, 2, 3 whatever makes no difference mate.
A stage 1 from company may be stronger than a stage 2 from another - these are stages specific to each tuning outfit. Our Stage 1 is stronger than that of a number of other companies, but our Stage 2 is normally only another 10% over our Stage 1 - that's just our approach to tuning..
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Will need to get remap to delete after cat sensor, keeps logging fault as running spots cat. Must admit my APR remap is pretty awesome pulls really well.
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All this Stage 1, 2, 3 whatever makes no difference mate.
A stage 1 from company may be stronger than a stage 2 from another - these are stages specific to each tuning outfit. Our Stage 1 is stronger than that of a number of other companies, but our Stage 2 is normally only another 10% over our Stage 1 - that's just our approach to tuning..
Stage 1 can be done with little/no mods
stage 2 with bolt on mods and top end bolt on turbo
stage 3 mainly big turbo, custom manifold, water/meth, nitrous, stronger internals etc
yes but thats just your opinion. what a tuner sells may be quite different - thats what irmscher is saying. One stage 1, on it sown, may be much better than another persons stage 2 incl bolt on mods.
to the OP - if customer service is important it seems R-Tech is the way to go. Or you could try R-Tek, east of liverpool if thats closer to you. JJ is really good and has just started doing remaps (via a German company ruedel motorsport).
In awesomes defense, they did offer free swap over to revo for a couple months after the split from APR.
I would agree its odd though that you are getting such different prices from APR dealers. I wonder if mobile chap just doesn't want to take the loss as he didn't do the first job? I think I only paid £100 for my upgrade to stage 2 from APR but that was years ago (and at Awesome) but APR did have to write a new map for my car!
whatever you do, check out the companies quoted figures and see if you can find reviews of real figures to make sure the new 'stage 2' is actually better than the current stage 1. For what its worth, I did not find massive speed changes going ftom APR stage 1 to 2. It just had more mid range pull so was better on motorways/ 40-60mph pulls. actual bph increase was minimal but aim was for increased torque.
hope some of that helps.
Aaron
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Those two are undoubtedly very good.
But if no-one tries any others, there will never be any proof for the new ones (ggod or bad!). not so long ago it would have been ' R-tech are the proven guys...'
Shaft you need to look at figures and speak to the person doing it. Where abouts are you? I suspect you will go with R-tech from what you already said and I would suspect you will be a very happy chap, very happy indeed!
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Those two are undoubtedly very good.
But if no-one tries any others, there will never be any proof for the new ones (ggod or bad!). not so long ago it would have been ' R-tech are the proven guys...'
Why go with anyone else though? You have two tuners with an excellent reputation for both their mapping skills and customer service/aftercare. Why risk going to another unknown tuner? You could potentially waste money on a rubbish map and end up having to get it sorted by another tuner anyway :undecided:
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Those two are undoubtedly very good.
But if no-one tries any others, there will never be any proof for the new ones (ggod or bad!). not so long ago it would have been ' R-tech are the proven guys...'
I agree, i've spoke with both Carbon and R-Tech in the past and both know their game without a doubt. But this remapping section of the forum is fast becoming one huge place for everyone to say "go to R-Tech or Carbon instead or Premiertuning reminding us that they also do remap's!
This section of the forums should be more about generic remapping advice/disucussion IMO.
**Doc and Nick do offer some excellent advice on this forum without touting their business's
I expect to get shot down for this but it's my opinion.
Jim
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Those two are undoubtedly very good.
But if no-one tries any others, there will never be any proof for the new ones (ggod or bad!). not so long ago it would have been ' R-tech are the proven guys...'
I agree, i've spoke with both Carbon and R-Tech in the past and both know their game without a doubt. But this remapping section of the forum is fast becoming one huge place for everyone to say "go to R-Tech or Carbon instead or Premiertuning reminding us that they also do remap's!
This section of the forums should be more about generic remapping advice/disucussion IMO.
**Doc and Nick do offer some excellent advice on this forum without touting their business's
I expect to get shot down for this but it's my opinion.
Jim
I'm not disagreeing with you, but the way I see it is stick with what you know!
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Those two are undoubtedly very good.
But if no-one tries any others, there will never be any proof for the new ones (ggod or bad!). not so long ago it would have been ' R-tech are the proven guys...'
I agree, i've spoke with both Carbon and R-Tech in the past and both know their game without a doubt. But this remapping section of the forum is fast becoming one huge place for everyone to say "go to R-Tech or Carbon instead or Premiertuning reminding us that they also do remap's!
This section of the forums should be more about generic remapping advice/disucussion IMO.
**Doc and Nick do offer some excellent advice on this forum without touting their business's
I expect to get shot down for this but it's my opinion.
Jim
You aint going to get shot down, I can see where your comming from.
Golfgti.co.uk is specailist forum for GTI owners, with specialist tuners for the GTI range from Mk4 1.8T to Mk6 Tdi. All we do is mk4-mk5 and I have spent the last 5-6 years trying to fully undestand them so we can offer the best all around product.
I am sure there are many good tuners out there who can provide a remap for the 1.8T AGU, but do they fully understand the engine and mapping and is the AGU map development current or old maps back from 1999-2000? Our current spec1 AGU map was updated and refined on the 15/10/2011.
Even on another forum where there are many many tuners/sponsor the comments are still the same.
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Will ring today Nick
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My car is mapped with APR stage 1 map, looking to get stage 2 map done or r-tech spec 2 custom map. Phone APR mobile agent said want stage 2 map £245 no cheaper although i have stage 1. Phoned tuningworkes they'll do stage 2 £145 due to me having stage 1 its cheaper. Spoke to mobile man again said £245 no cheaper makes no differece if i've had stage 1, completely different ifo from tuning werkes. Awesomegti where map was done want £360+vat for stage 2 revo cos they dont to APR anymore, sods they are no help from awesomegti just want my money. So either tuning werkes or r-tech but leaning to r-tech custom 2 map.
Hi mate im new on here and have just been flicking through a few posts and came accross yours. Awesomegti were re loading Revo maps to their customers cars for free who already had the APR map done buy them because as you say they have now stopped APR. May be worth getting in touch because if you get the Revo stage 1 for free the Stage 2 upgrade is i think only a £60 extra. Well worth a call.
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Have been to awesomegti there just by my work want £350 for revo map. Was up there 2 weeks ago get forge dv.
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Have been to awesomegti there just by my work want £350 for revo map. Was up there 2 weeks ago get forge dv.
Here is the link for the free remap off they had to replace the old APR ones with REVO for free. Unfortunately it was this time last year, i thought it was last month :lipsrsealed:
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/382938/2611674.aspx#2611674
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Any respectable company should still honour it providing proof of sale of a APR map.
I know if i ran the business I would. Customer satisfaction = #1
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Any respectable company should still honour it providing proof of sale of a APR map.
I know if i ran the business I would. Customer satisfaction = #1
True! I think he should ring them an show the link and ask about it. They kept it quiet as they want the money but so many people got the Revo loaded for free i think its only fair. Although proof is probably needed?
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they only did this for a limited period, something like the 1st month of going revo was foc to anyone with a apr map, it was said revo was giving better gains. My ibiza was revo stage 2 when i bought it, now deleted in favour of R-tech custom map. Just bought a Touran 2,0 tdi, i'll be seeing r-tech to get their generic map soon. Also had pd 140 leon that was revo'd, that went well, very aggressive, not clutch friendly, r-tech ftw!