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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: mkviken on 01 November 2011, 22:33
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has anyone noticed the OE scissor jack would damage the undersell on the sill seam if it was to be used or is it just my car!?
i always use my trolly jack when working on my car but if i had to use the scissor jack in an emergency on the roadside it would probably do a fair bit damage to the underside protection. a stupid design IMO.
as for the jacking using a trolly jack i have bought a hockey puck which i will cut a slot in for the strengthen seam to fit into to offer some protection.
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A couple of links for you
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=202331.0
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=95479.0
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I've jacked the front of mine up with the supplied jack and it didn't do any damage, although i wouldn't like to use it very often. :smiley:
This may be a stupid question and please don't take it the wrong way but you are looking at it the right way up aren't you? The reason i ask that is the part that touches the car is grooved so it doesn't lift on the seam so shouldn't damage it.
Sorry if i don't make sense! :smiley:
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the open slot on my scissor jack isn't wide enough to fit over the sill due to the amount of sealant on there. if i tried to lift the car it would just rip the sealant off.
i have seen them lift pads a few times and they look good. i may get a set but the hockey puck method works too
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A couple of links for you
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=202331.0
Thats mine. A little bit of more info on
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=206081.0
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the open slot on my scissor jack isn't wide enough to fit over the sill due to the amount of sealant on there. if i tried to lift the car it would just rip the sealant off.
i have seen them lift pads a few times and they look good. i may get a set but the hockey puck method works too
Ah i see, sorry bud. Mine went over the sealant, you could see where it went but didn't damage it.
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i think what i will need to do is grind the slot in the scissor jack maybe 5mm wider to go over the sealant otherwise if i ever get a flat tyre its going to be a nightmare!
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bought a set of these from the audi dealers (vw wouldn't sell me them)
£22 for the set of 4 (8 parts). should make jacking the car up a lot easier in the future.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/Golf%20V/liftpads.jpg
just got to sort my scissor jack out now to get it to fit the body right
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Teutonic_Tamer used the Audi TT version of the lift pads were i used the S3 ones as shown in my link earlier, IMO the S3 ones are much better as you don't loose the cover at the front. Its not that your VW dealer would not sell them to you, they simply cannot, as they are listed on the system as brand inhibited, so they are not allowed and cannot order them.
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whats the difference between the 2 types?
also need to order my under tray
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If you look at Teutonics link and then look at my link you will see that the TT ones are simply push in ones with a much low height than the S3 ones.
The S3 ones stick down more and the front ones come with the covers built in so you don't loose the cover.
Heres the S3 ones
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/gti/S3%20lift%20blocks/Photo-01KitofParts.jpg)
Heres the TT ones
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/Golf%20V/liftpads.jpg)
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so the S3 ones can be jacked up without having to remove the trim piece?
i was just going to cut a hole in the existing trim piece to allow the new rubber pad to be fitted and keep the trim piece too. its on
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Yes as the trim peace is a molded in part of the replacment.
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looked at the scirocco site and got a good idea of the 2 set ups. didn't realise one had an integrated panel.
i will order a 8PO 802 845 and 8PO 802 846 for the front and just keep the TT rears.
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If you look at Teutonics link and then look at my link you will see that the TT ones are simply push in ones with a much low height than the S3 ones.
The S3 ones stick down more and the front ones come with the covers built in so you don't loose the cover.
Heres the S3 ones
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/gti/S3%20lift%20blocks/Photo-01KitofParts.jpg)
Heres the TT ones
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/Golf%20V/liftpads.jpg)
Right I tried to order all of the above and was told by the Audi dealer they were VW parts all they could sell me were
8P0 802 845 - Not on System (told it was a VW part - clearly not) want (x1)
8P0 802 846 - Not on System (told it was a VW part - clearly not) want (x1)
8N0 804 583 - £1.56 ea want (x8)
8P0 802 847 - Not on System want (x2)
8N0 803 855 - £3.06 ea want (x4)
Need enough to do my Mk6 and my Dads Bora doy they fit the mk5 too?
Can anyone correct the part numbers or was the Audi dealier I tried just a bunch of goons.
Q. Whats the diameter of the plugs? aswell. Ta
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They are Audi S3 only parts so you can only order them from Audi dealer or TPS. :grin:
They are brand inhibited at a VW dealer :grin:
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It was audi that I tried to get them from. Will try tps there is one on my way home from work. Anyou idea s if the fit a mark 5?
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i got all mine from audi main dealer no problem same as my S3 OEM short shifter. didn't need a reg or anything just the part numbers
they will fit a mk5
also i used mine the other day fitting my torque arm bushing and they're very good. make lifting the car much safer. no contact with the body at all
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Yes fit a mk5, and most things based on the mk5 chassis.
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Phoned my VW dealer this morning and they have ordered the parts. :smiley:
They service the odd Audi as well so don't see why they couldn't.
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been lucky there as my VW dealer couldn't order them as they were locked on his system or something.
got a 10% from audi and paid about £20 for the 8 items.
these are a good little mod IMO
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If the dealer is not a dealer for the Audi brand the system puts up 'brand inhibited' and won't allow them to order them. (I have the screen shots of when i ordered). I hit this issue as the VW dealer i get parts from were only VW dealers and not Audi dealers so they had to order them via TPS for me.
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Strange :undecided:... They are only a VW dealer but he said I would have them on Wednesday.. :smiley:
Maybe they just ring the Audi dealer and get them to send them on to them..
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Managed to get them ordered via TPS thanks for that. No problems there will be able to collect Wednesday evening.
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If you look at Teutonics link and then look at my link you will see that the TT ones are simply push in ones with a much low height than the S3 ones.
The S3 ones stick down more and the front ones come with the covers built in so you don't loose the cover.
Heres the S3 ones
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/gti/S3%20lift%20blocks/Photo-01KitofParts.jpg)
Heres the TT ones
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/Golf%20V/liftpads.jpg)
Managed to get all of the above apart from 8N0 804 593 got some weird looking metal things. When looking on ETKA it looked like the pic but thats not what turned up. He is ordering me 8 more just in case they picked the wrong item.
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If you look at Teutonics link and then look at my link you will see that the TT ones are simply push in ones with a much low height than the S3 ones.
The S3 ones stick down more and the front ones come with the covers built in so you don't loose the cover.
Heres the S3 ones
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/Forum%20photos/gti/S3%20lift%20blocks/Photo-01KitofParts.jpg)
Heres the TT ones
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/Golf%20V/liftpads.jpg)
Managed to get all of the above apart from 8N0 804 593 got some weird looking metal things. When looking on ETKA it looked like the pic but thats not what turned up. He is ordering me 8 more just in case they picked the wrong item.
Have you ordered the correct part number?
In the photo it is 583?
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Sorry typo, yup 583 he will call me sat when the new ones turn up.
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If anyone needs to know how to fit them theres a how too on my thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=206081.0
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when i removed my plastic plugs the paint was very thin inside the hole. maybe the plastic rubs it off? also a lot of water ran out of the front end ones when i pulled the cover off.
i added loads grease inside the box section and on the underside of the hole. also helps the rubber push in easier.
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I know this is an old thread but I never got round to fitting these,
I was going to fit them over the holidays but then found this, not so sure now, anyone want to buy a spare set of jacking points.. :undecided:
This is supposedly a quote from VW: Only to be used when lifting the entire vehicle using a floor lift. When used together they distribute the weight of the vehicle over the four points. If you use only one at a time, you are putting too much weight on one point and may bend the floor pan.
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I know this is an old thread but I never got round to fitting these,
I was going to fit them over the holidays but then found this, not so sure now, anyone want to buy a spare set of jacking points.. :undecided:
This is supposedly a quote from VW: Only to be used when lifting the entire vehicle using a floor lift. When used together they distribute the weight of the vehicle over the four points. If you use only one at a time, you are putting too much weight on one point and may bend the floor pan.
Does anyone know if this is true?
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I've used Mine lots of times now. Jacking just the front or just the rear and not had a problem at all with the floor pan.
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Thanks for that.
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I know this is an old thread but I never got round to fitting these,
I was going to fit them over the holidays but then found this, not so sure now, anyone want to buy a spare set of jacking points.. :undecided:
This is supposedly a quote from VW: Only to be used when lifting the entire vehicle using a floor lift. When used together they distribute the weight of the vehicle over the four points. If you use only one at a time, you are putting too much weight on one point and may bend the floor pan.
Does anyone know if this is true?
Yes it is sort of. The problem is when people jack it too high and end up lifting the entire side of the car up. Or are not carefull placing the jack so the entire pad takes the weight rather than just one sectiion of it. Also you cannot easy lift it using a U shaped jack pad as this causes issues to lifting forces.
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better than using the death trap scissor jack and having it fall over. got a nice big dent in the rocker panel the last time I used the OEM one. Will use these jack points from now on thanks...
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yep i would never use the widow maker unless in dire need.
i use a trolley jack and block of wood on the reinforced sill under the arrows to lift the car and use the jacking pads as axle stand locations. or you can use the rear control arm bushing as an axle stand location.
to jack the rear of the car up you need to lift the front end up really high to get the rear of the car off the ground at the same time, as there isn't enough room to get both a jack and a stand on the rear of the car. stupid design.