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General => General discussion => Topic started by: dam088888 on 29 October 2011, 16:31
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As above I've searched and can find some people say yes and some no
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99% sure you can't. Has to b white on front yellow on back.
Could be wrong tho lol
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Ok cheers mate. What about pressed plates just been reading and some people even been pulled in them being the right color
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After watching lots of cop programmes
On tv I've come the conclusion that anytime of numberplate which isn't oem isn't allowed and depending on the copper you get will prob depend on whether u get a ticket or warning?
I've seen some pressed plates which say legal bit still :undecided: however I would like some
Myself :grin:
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German lookylikes noooo. Yeah same i've heard of people with 'legal' pressed plates still getting pulled over. Shame i want a set.
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from what i can remeber guys you can have pressed plates aslong as they coraspond to correct letter sizing an pacing aswell as font is correct :laugh: :laugh:
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some coppers just don't know the law themselves and group legal pressed plates with the german versions. As long as they conform to what the DVLA want there shouldn't be a problem
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Can you run a white rear plate? No
Can you run a german plate? No
Can you run pressed plates? Yes, but only if the company you buy them from request to see documents from you and the plates are stamped with the BS code and the manufacturers postcode.
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had mine fron a stand at ultimate dubs never been pulled they are stamped aswell
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Got my plates from Dubmeister.co.uk through regal tuning. Fully legal apart from them not being manufacturer standard. Had them on for 3 years and not had one issue!
Aslong as they:
Correct size/spacing
Manufacturer postcode
Correct Colour
Reflective
should be fine as the police only pull you if:
A) your being a knob and they need a reason to pull you
or
B) the plate reading camera cant pick up the letters due to not conforming to legal requirements.
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Can you run a white rear plate? No
Can you run a german plate? No
Can you run pressed plates? Yes, but only if the company you buy them from request to see documents from you and the plates are stamped with the BS code and the manufacturers postcode.
This man is correct.
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NO!
Read this:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/contents/made#
Everyone Read it.
Jonathan.
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Dubmeister are as far as I know the only UK legal pressed plate suppliers. There will be plenty that tell you 'yeah I've had pressed plates on for years got them from a show blah blah' but bottom line is show plates are not road legal
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No, you cant run a white rear plate! but I know someone that does :grin: :grin: :grin: :kiss: :lipsrsealed:
Thom
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Just to clear this up you can run pressed plates only united kingdom font and at a standard size they also have to have the bs number on
My mate runs a set front and rear pressed uk plates with all the correct
bs numbers the police pull him but can do nothing and they HATE it :evil:
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Any plates supplied without seeing docs are classed as show plates.
We make number plates in work and have to keep records.
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No, you cant run a white rear plate! but I know someone that does :grin: :grin: :grin: :kiss: :lipsrsealed:
Thom
Ohh that bad boy!
Honestly ditch the idea of these legal pressed plates also. You will get pulled and a chance of a fine. Cops dont care if they have the legal 'bs' mark that stands for bullsh1t.
Standard plates. The headache is not worth it. Lock thread/
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Standard plates. The headache is not worth it. Lock thread/
:afro: that is why I got mine from the local main dealer.
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Well, I've had pressed steel plates on my Golf Cabriolet for about 18 months now - all legal, bought from Europl8 at Ultimate Dubs.
They have a BS mark, but it's so faint grey from about 10 feet away it just disappears.
Now I'm an older driver so I guess the police see my grey hair and assume everything will be in order with my paper work - and it is. :wink:
Yeah, It's ageist I suppose - but it's one of the few perks of getting older :laugh:
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I got pressed plates with uk font etc etc with bs/etc etc from eBay
Not be pulled yet :smiley:
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Just to clear this up you can run pressed plates only united kingdom font and at a standard size they also have to have the bs number on
My mate runs a set front and rear pressed uk plates with all the correct
bs numbers the police pull him but can do nothing and they HATE it :evil:
The British Standard in not to do with pressed plates. It covers ALL plates.
Seeing as people are too lazy to read the link. :rolleyes:
VEHICLES REGISTERED ON OR AFTER 1ST JANUARY 1973 AND BEFORE 1ST SEPTEMBER 2001 (OPTIONAL SPECIFICATION)
1. The plate must be made of reflex-reflecting material which, as regards its construction, colour and other qualities, complies with the requirements of—
(a)the British Standard Specification for reflex-reflecting number plates, published on 11 September 1972 under the number BS AU 145a(2), or
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VEHICLES REGISTERED AND NEW REGISTRATION PLATES FITTED ON OR AFTER 1ST SEPTEMBER 2001 (MANDATORY SPECIFICATION)
1. The plate must be made of retroreflecting material which, as regards its construction, colour and other qualities, complies with the requirements of—
(a)the British Standard specification for retroreflecting number plates published on 15 January 1998 under number BS AU 145d(1), or
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BSAU 145D
The British Standard sets out the physical characteristics on the number plate. This includes:
Visibility
Strength
Reflectivity
The British Standard also requires that a number plate must be marked with the following information: -
The British Standard Number (currently BS AU 145d)
The name, trade mark, or other means of identification of the manufacturer or component supplier. (The company who actually make the number plate.)
The name and postcode of the supplying outlet. (The 'supplying outlet' is taken to mean a company whose business consists wholly or partly of selling number plates.)
A non-reflective border and the Euro-symbol with the national identification letters are optional additions.
There shall be no other markings or material contained on the number plate.
Further information about the British Standards requirements can be obtained at www.bsi-global.com.
Required:
White front plate (to British Standard BS AU 145d)
Yellow rear plate (to British Standard BS AU 145d)
The registration number of the bearer vehicle in the mandatory font (black ‘Charles Wright 2001’)
Spacing of characters and character groups in accordance with the measurements specified in the regulations. Variation is not permitted
Permitted but not required:
3D variation of the mandatory ‘Charles Wright 2001’ font
Coloured, non-reflective border
National emblem: English St George Cross with “ENG†legend, Scottish St Andrew Cross with “SCO†legend, Welsh Dragon with “WALES†and “CYMRU†legend, British Union Flag with “GB†legend) or Euro Stars symbol with “GB†legend.
No additions or variations are permitted. Common illegal variations are:
Fancy or decorative typefaces
Bolts placed in such a way as to alter the appearance of characters
Adjusted spacing between characters or character groups
Altered characters
Additional logos or symbols, such as sporting emblems and religious symbols.
There are concessions for older and vintage cars. “Historic vehiclesâ€, i.e. those built prior to 1973, are permitted to bear the old-style black plates of either plastic or traditional metal construction.
To quote the DVLA: "Vehicles constructed before 1.1.73 may display traditional style ‘black and white’ plates i.e. white, silver or grey characters on a black plate."
Now, unless someone can point me to where it states that pressed plates are legal, they remain Illegal. just because you haven't been pulled, doesn't make them so.
Jonathan.
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if there illegal surely an m.o.t tester wouldnt pass a car with them on :undecided:
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@ Elvi:
Forgive me if I'm wrong because I'm fully aware Law is your forte.
But surely plates made by Dubmeister (and other similar companies) are legal.
They are produced using the Charles Wright typeface and conform to all of the BSAU 145D specifications with regards to visibility, strength & reflectivity. They are also stamped with the BSAU code and the name and postcode of the supplier, the supplier requires original proof of ID & registration to enable them to keep the appropriate records specified by the DVLA.
This means that they meet all of the criteria which is outlined in your post, plus it is also not specified anywhere that the plate cannot be made from pressed metal. How can they be illegal if they meet all the legal requirements?
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dubmeister plates are legal, they have spent big money making it so
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Any plates supplied without seeing docs are classed as show plates.
We make number plates in work and have to keep records.
Same but we don't. :lipsrsealed:
Good thing is I made some old style plates with no postcode or anything pre-2001 style. :smiley:
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Seeing as people are too lazy to read the link.
It's not so much that. It's more that reading law jargon bores the bollocks off me so I wait until you get sufficiently aggravated to go and find all the pertinent bits and then lay it out for me.
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I am confused how Dubmeister plates are illegal. :undecided:
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am confused how we,ve gone from running a white plate on the rear to wether pressed plates are legal or not :grin: :grin:
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am confused how we,ve gone from running a white plate on the rear to wether pressed plates are legal or not :grin: :grin:
Could be worse, could have moved on to aftermarket HIDs :grin: :lipsrsealed:
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Further information about the British Standards requirements can be obtained at www.bsi-global.com.
At a mere cost of £65ish for the full standard.
Unless you have access to the full standard it's not possible to determine whether it mandates plastic, or metal, or just defines the characteristics of the plate.
One would assume (and we all know what that does) that Dumeister have spent the required £65 on the full standard and figured out they can use pressed metal for legal plates.
So saying their plates aren't legal is an ignorant thing to say, unless you have paids to see the full standard.
Could be worse, could have moved on to aftermarket HIDs :grin: :lipsrsealed:
Or mis-use of front foglights.
if there illegal surely an m.o.t tester wouldnt pass a car with them on :undecided:
No MOT is quite different to construction and use legislation.
You can get a car with spikes welded on the bumper through an MOT provided the spikes are not there due to damage or corrosion.
Construction and use would see you pulled over by the first copper you met driving away from the MOT station as huge spikes on your bumper are clearly dangerous!
An MOT is largely a list of boxes to be ticked. If what you have is outside the scope of the boxes the tester won't cover it.
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Now, unless someone can point me to where it states that pressed plates are legal, they remain Illegal. just because you haven't been pulled, doesn't make them so.
Jonathan.
Found this on the link you provided.
“registration plate†means a plate or other device displaying the registration mark of the vehicle and in the case of a dual purpose plate means such part of the plate as is not intended for the display the international distinguishing sign of the United Kingdom in accordance with the Council Regulation
Surely all that means is that as long as you are conforming to the required regulation then it doesn't matter what they are printed on?
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/regulation/2/made
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My classic mini - 1979 has the original metal plates with no bs number on them.
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My classic mini - 1979 has the original metal plates with no bs number on them.
Well done. :huh:
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My classic mini - 1979 has the original metal plates with no bs number on them.
Well done. :huh:
Cheers :grin:
Thought all plates "should" have bs numbers on them :undecided:
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My classic mini - 1979 has the original metal plates with no bs number on them.
Well done. :huh:
Cheers :grin:
Thought all plates "should" have bs numbers on them :undecided:
shows what thinking does . . . . . . . .
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My classic mini - 1979 has the original metal plates with no bs number on them.
Well done. :huh:
Cheers :grin:
Thought all plates "should" have bs numbers on them :undecided:
shows what thinking does . . . . . . . .
:grin: :grin:
True :laugh:
I will shut up now :grin:
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A fully legal set of pressed metal number plates purchased from GSF:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/IMAG0516.jpg)
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/IMAG0517.jpg)
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A fully legal set of pressed metal number plates purchased from GSF:
Are you sure :grin:
Europl8 make a lot of plates so they must know the whats legal :smiley:
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A fully legal set of pressed metal number plates purchased from GSF:
Are you sure :grin:
Europl8 make a lot of plates so they must know the whats legal :smiley:
:wink: :grin: :lipsrsealed:
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
A month?? Pah that's nothing compared to Steve_PD :grin: :grin:
Even I'm doing over 300 a week :laugh: :laugh:
Oh and I ran German plates on the Golf for 2 years and never got pulled. I've run Dubmeister plates for the last 3 years and never been pulled either
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
wasnt talking to you :kiss:
Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
A month?? Pah that's nothing compared to Steve_PD :grin: :grin:
Even I'm doing over 300 a week :laugh: :laugh:
Oh and I ran German plates on the Golf for 2 years and never got pulled. I've run Dubmeister plates for the last 3 years and never been pulled either
Dark pumpers are getting about a lot now. might even get mine serviced as its getting hammered at the moment
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
wasnt talking to you :kiss:
Clear as mud :rolleyes: :kiss:
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
A month?? Pah that's nothing compared to Steve_PD :grin: :grin:
Even I'm doing over 300 a week :laugh: :laugh:
Oh and I ran German plates on the Golf for 2 years and never got pulled. I've run Dubmeister plates for the last 3 years and never been pulled either
I've been doing up to 300 a day this week! :grin:
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
A month?? Pah that's nothing compared to Steve_PD :grin: :grin:
Even I'm doing over 300 a week :laugh: :laugh:
Oh and I ran German plates on the Golf for 2 years and never got pulled. I've run Dubmeister plates for the last 3 years and never been pulled either
I've been doing up to 300 a day this week! :grin:
But you've got a company car, get better than 32mpg & can claim mileage back :tongue:
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Man the fcuk up, run it and report back :laugh: :smiley:
On the car now, I'm doing 400-500miles a month so if I'm going to get pulled it'll be soon!
A month?? Pah that's nothing compared to Steve_PD :grin: :grin:
Even I'm doing over 300 a week :laugh: :laugh:
Oh and I ran German plates on the Golf for 2 years and never got pulled. I've run Dubmeister plates for the last 3 years and never been pulled either
I've been doing up to 300 a day this week! :grin:
But you've got a company car, get better than 32mpg & can claim mileage back :tongue:
Yeah I only mentioned it as a side conversation since Rhyso pointed out your casual Mileage.
Claim Mileage?... Nah.... Full Fuel Card for work and personal, can't use it on the golf which sucks and TAX is a biatch! Even though the Maz is a 2.2 it's good for 50mpg if i'm nice to it.