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General => General discussion => Topic started by: bigstring on 25 October 2011, 15:39
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Sweet as a nut Bernie!
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16095867
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Sounds very cool. Years ago a few cars did some runs up and down Regent Street in London and the sound was just amazing bouncing off the walls. Would love a London GP.
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A F1 race in New York streets? What are the drivers going to do, drive forwards 100 yards then turn left, drive forwards 100 yards then turn right? Sounds pretty boring to me.....
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A F1 race in New York streets? What are the drivers going to do, drive forwards 100 yards then turn left, drive forwards 100 yards then turn right? Sounds pretty boring to me.....
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Only one part of it will be on manhattan, the section of road which runs next to the Hudson would make a superb start finish straight and the rest will be in New Jersey which means they might use the Lincoln tunnel (i think) which would be awesome!!! :cool:
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Just what F1 needs, another crap city layout, lemme guess, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight,repeat till bored. Its about time Bernie shuffled off this mortal coil and someone came in and actually got the cars to drive on circuits.
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Just what F1 needs, another crap city layout, lemme guess, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight,repeat till bored. Its about time Bernie shuffled off this mortal coil and someone came in and actually got the cars to drive on circuits.
what those circuits that go straght, left turn, staight, right turn, left turn.
what do you want? them doing jumps and flips or something?
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a point proved by the other half of the population...
F1 is boooooring, just tuned up (then limited) go-karts
WRC, proper cars, proper tracks! :cool:
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new york streets are based on a grid pattern so it would be pretty dull in terms of circuit layout. It'd be like racing around milton keynes which is fine in a Saxo VTR but not so much in an F1 car
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Just what F1 needs, another crap city layout, lemme guess, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight,repeat till bored. Its about time Bernie shuffled off this mortal coil and someone came in and actually got the cars to drive on circuits.
what those circuits that go straght, left turn, staight, right turn, left turn.
what do you want? them doing jumps and flips or something?
Would be nice to use tracks that are actually proper tracks.
Just to name a few
San marino
Indianapolis
A1 ring
Magny-Cours
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Just what F1 needs, another crap city layout, lemme guess, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight,repeat till bored. Its about time Bernie shuffled off this mortal coil and someone came in and actually got the cars to drive on circuits.
what those circuits that go straght, left turn, staight, right turn, left turn.
what do you want? them doing jumps and flips or something?
Would be nice to use tracks that are actually proper tracks.
Just to name a few
San marino
Indianapolis
A1 ring
Magny-Cours
yeah fare enough, purpose built tracks are good, and if they chose one of them ide be perfectly happy with it, but im equally happy with them adding this as a track and think it could have potential. just my opinion though
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All the new tracks have no personality IMO. There are a few good ones, I quite like the turkish and chinese GP but valencia, abu dhabi, Korea and singapore are so dull and boring.
I prefer the old school tracks, were there was actually skill involved and no mistakes are forgiven.
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Just what F1 needs, another crap city layout, lemme guess, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight, left turn, bridge/tunnel, straight,repeat till bored. Its about time Bernie shuffled off this mortal coil and someone came in and actually got the cars to drive on circuits.
what those circuits that go straght, left turn, staight, right turn, left turn.
what do you want? them doing jumps and flips or something?
The straight, left turn reference should be pretty damn obvious considering they are american....... Take in the layout of New York as well and the length of the bridges and you cant really see them doing anything other than a square with some bloody long straights (doubtless broken up by some pissant chicanes that they have to negotiate at 2MPH).
No, I dont want them doing flips etc, I just want them to drive on proper circuits such as Spa, Suzuka, Silverstone, Turkey etc etc where the challenge involves high speed and not nadgery stupid chicanes, walls so close they wont take risks etc etc etc like Singapore, Valencia, Monaco (Flame me for this one by all means, good track to drive maybe but its a boring race) and quite probably the new Austin track........
As for the WRC and its cars being proper cars/proper rallying even, Im afraid that one bit the dust around the time when the regulators neutered the stages, stopped night stages and got completely ruined when active diffs really became clever. Sure the active diffs may have gone now but they are just euroboxes going flat out with minimal drama now, not overpowered and under chassis'd challenges to drive. Club level rallying is far more interesting than the WRC due to the diversity of the cars and the fact they actually use proper stages occasionally. I will admit that F1 is boring if you know nothing of what goes into it, but once you appreciate the quality and pace of the engineering, logistics and the scope of it all along with the shear level of skill of the drivers, its far better than the vast majority of motorsports.
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San marino
Indianapolis
A1 ring
Magny-Cours
Good shout on 3 of them (the two right left chicanes at Magny are awesome, can still remember Hamilton flicking through them right on the edge in his first year, amazing talent and corners) btw but Indy was pap IMO.
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Is the Sky news website always that slow? I tried 3 times and it hadn't loaded so closed it.
We'll have to see exactly what the 'track' layout is before jumping to conclusions. Personally, I watch the race, not the background so couldn't care what sky line is in the background.
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new york streets are based on a grid pattern so it would be pretty dull in terms of circuit layout. It'd be like racing around milton keynes which is fine in a Saxo VTR but not so much in an F1 car
Manhattan streets are based on a grid system not New Jersey where a majority of the track would be.
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Yes it is, but make the track wider and let them race then!
a point proved by the other half of the population...
F1 is boooooring, just tuned up (then limited) go-karts
WRC, proper cars, proper tracks! :cool:
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Here is the "proposed" track.
http://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/tilke-map.jpg
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/
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We are starting to lose the old classic tracks over these new awful ones..like Valencia, Singapore ( looks amazing but such boring races ) , Abu Dhabi and Korea.
Plus with India, Russia, Texas , New Jersey all coming in the next 3/4 years we are going to lose more of the old tracks. Spa is already getting ready to alternate yearly and the German GP is in danger of going as well. Also Melbourne and Canada both have their contracts up for renewal soon and both not looking likely to resign. Both of those always produce great races..more so Canada..one of the best tracks on the calender imo.
Like someone else posted, we have some great tracks in San Marino, A1-Ring and Magny-Cours. So no need at all to build new boring ones or add yet another street circuit. As much a I love Monaco for it's history, more often than not , it produces boring races.
With F1 more than likely going to be fully on Sky by 2013 and with all the new tracks on board, can see F1 losing a lot of fans as Bernie goes chasing after the money rather than picking tracks on merit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bxvbfm8P47Y#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bxvbfm8P47Y#!)
That's the proposed layout. Looks ok, nothing special.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bxvbfm8P47Y#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bxvbfm8P47Y#!)
That's the proposed layout. Looks ok, nothing special.
won't all those traffic lights and parked cars hold them up quite a bit? :undecided:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bxvbfm8P47Y#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bxvbfm8P47Y#!)
That's the proposed layout. Looks ok, nothing special.
won't all those traffic lights and parked cars hold them up quite a bit? :undecided:
What the HRT and virgins? :grin: