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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Golf mk3 gallery => Topic started by: Murph on 22 October 2011, 15:06
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1997 VW Golf GTi 2.0 16v DOHC.
149,000miles
Cat D crash (previous bad repair) :undecided:
interior tatty
cost £100 (with half a tank of fuel and 41p down the back seat)
Engine: running well,
paintwork: poor, sun damage on the bonnet / previous crash repair over passengers rear arch / rust on sills and doors.
else: ok for age
Images on next post.
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http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/DUB%20PROJECT/ (http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/DUB%20PROJECT/)
various pics..
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For £100 mate you cant go wrong, Any plans?
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I'm going to let these forums guide me. but complete nut and bolt rebuild - everything off, beadblasted (where possible) and put back together (badly!)
I am a complete VW noob, never even thought about owning one. never worked on cars let alone VW so this is a top down learning experience.
(good job its project car)
Some More pictures day 3/4 into the project...
http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/dub%20project%20day%203-4/ (http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/dub%20project%20day%203-4/)
and yes the number plate does look like "BIG VIRGIN" :grin: :grin:
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gotta start somewhere mate, and you got good example to start with!
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41p down tha back seat? Nice!! I found a big doobie down the back of my seats lol. What you using for bead blasting as i'm at the stage where i'll be removing my 8v and stripping it down to paint.
For a noob you have picked the best car to work on. I'm doing a full rebuild so i'll be on here alot if you need any advice but so far your work has been spot on so i doubt you will have any trouble.
Also in regard to your pics if you paste in the IMG code into your thread they will appear instead of having to click links. Although I would reccommend to scale them down in size a bit first.
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i have a very large industrial media blaster at work - takes 2 seconds - its a wet one too, just had to make sure i stayed away from mating surfaces of the covers.
appriciate ANY help, especially with engine / styling / bodywork / brakes / suspension / exhaust pipes / interior (think that covers it all)
as for pictures, yeah, i will in the future, im just too lazy to resize. (The thumbnails are kind of handy though.)
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No worries. I have a spot beat blaster that works off the compressor but its only for doing wee bits at a time and not that powerful so I guess i'll just have to use good old elbow grease and make do with what i have but and industrial bead blaster would be the thing to save loads of time. My build thread should cover pretty much everything over the coming months. My biggest concern is painting, I can do it but don't really have the enviroment to get the best finish. Worry about that when I come to it as that will be the last thing I do.
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yeah painting is kind of specialised - luckily my lovely wife runs a landrover rebuild company!! which has convieniently got a spray bay!!
car paint is £50 a litre!! - i better get it right when i finally paint!
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Good luck with the project.
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thanks,
DAY 5.
no photos today, but i managed to strip the cams down and the dizzy. they look ok.
overhauled the steering pump (by this i mean strip it down and realise it was a bad idea its a b!tch to reassemble.)
rest of the day was spent cleaning the gearbox and the clutch housing.
oh and i did the last polish on the intake manifolds, looks nice.
i may take some leave this week to squeeze day 6 in before the weekend :)
EDIT: checked under the sills and apart from a repair, she is gleaming underneath, (looks like its been wax oiled previously) :smiley:
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head gasket and cam cover set brought today for £50, new set of headbolts £20, oil filter £5, campbelt £15 and High temperature red paint for cam cover £8
total spent so far £198
also brought a Mini cooper S Convertable. Didn't think it would be quick at all. how wrong was i. Its the wifes car BTW! im not a hairdresser.
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all arrived today, apparently i ordered the wrong head gasket set.
advertised as an Gti 2.0 16v ABF engine but i think i must have the later engine type. i dont know how much of it differs from the later model engine, i may have to sharp knife some of the "grooves" around the cam cover gasket.
This may set me back somewhat with the engine re-build. im not a happy bunny :cry:
edit: being sent back, steel set ordered - hope i dont make the similar mistakes again...
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:smiley: another mk3 rebuild :smiley: good bargain at £100 matey
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tks.
quick photo to see how the cam cover and intake manifold will look once rebuilt: -- i hope :)
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/loosefixofwhatpartswilllooklike.jpg)
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cyl head removed and cleaned, come up quite nice. dont think anyone wants to see a picture of a cylinder head or head so i wont post them.
looks like there is a fine crack in my downpipes, so that will need a weld :(
Oil Sump came off yesterday too, couldn't get the sump plug out so had to resort to drastic measures.
while the engine was this far stripped down i was going to check the clutch, but according to the master that is haynes, i need specalist tools to pressurize the clutch. so i think i will leave well alone for now.
pleased to say that its coming along nicely and i am learning heaps. enginework is great and all that, but im more interested in trying some bodywork mods.
there are some nice ideas on the forums which i may rob :) *(just very badly)
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day 5/6 (3rd weekend)
approx 75 hours in and im starting the engine rebuild, wih new gaskets and a new set of belts. (omg the timing and aux belt was a SOB to remove, trashed 2 socket handles getting it off!!)
spray painted the engine loom holder and the oil cooler black, along with the various other brackets and trays.
I havent taken apart the pistons, con rods, crank, valves or clutch. i think these are beyond my current abilities and tooling.
once its all back together i will take some photos.
showed some progress to the guy who sold me the car for £100, he is :sick:
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£100, what a bargin! If I could find a deal like that, I would have a 16v engine by now lol!
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So my new steel gasket set arrived today and it's still the wrong one. Looking on the engine block it's not 03****** but 05***** so I am going to have to grovel to the supplier and see if I can get a refund.
I can not seem to find the correct gasket set. Would love some advise. If anyone knows the right part number for a 2.0 Gti 16v abf engine with the engine number at 05**** I would be grateful :D
Edit: Found the part (maybe) on Euro car parts, looks like i need to shell out another £30 on top!!
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(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/day8013-Optimized.jpg)
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/day8018-Optimized.jpg)
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Engine Rebuilt as you can see from the picutures.
£50 more spent on lubes and coolant - battery charged - started FIRST time, idling perfectly!!
I ran it for 30 seconds, then turned it off. ill check all the connections again tomorrow in the daylight.
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Nice work dude! That's the way to do, start from scratch and learn by DOING! Worked for me! :)
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Thanks bro. Its been amazing fun, probably because I can take my time.
Wife has been tremendously supportive as well.
Next stop - body work
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Thanks bro. Its been amazing fun, probably because I can take my time.
Wife has been tremendously supportive as well.
Next stop - body work
Yep, you can learn so much by getting involved and you see you are capable of building a sweeeet car you never thought you could build!
Having time is the best bit, wish i had that with my car but now new project i have time with and car is a daily sl*t :D
Looking forward to seeing more of this though!
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paint work started today. i wanted to see how the sun bleached bonet would fair up after some heavy polishing, you cant really see how bad it was from the first pics, but it was bad. after a LOT of elbow grease it came up sweet. (photo to follow)
i attacked the plastic trip and ripped it all off.
i hacked away all the old rust spots, with a screwdriver and some p80 grit sand papertaken as much as i dare off, needs rust treating now - then filling, then all 1 coat of primer - (this is as far as i will go for now untill i have had a ton more practice with the airline sprayer)
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(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_4064.jpg)
The reflection is the garage door. Before there was no reflection!!
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Looking good man!
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tks,
started sanding / reshaping the crashed area of the nearside wheen arch. i have decided to take another 2 days off this week to get some more "car-time" in.
This project is quickly becoming a passion. most of my conversations are now baised towards obtaining parts etc. i have a mate who has a 4 channel 100watt amp, he is bringing it in tomorrow for me to look at, he has also advised me against a large bass tube/box, saying 4 "6x9s" (?) are enough, ill go with his say so. ICE is nice, but i am 35 :laugh:
Question: looking at the nearside rear wheel there is scrubbing on the inner part of the tyre face - looking like there is underlying damage cocking the wheel to an adverse camber. In "your opinions" is it more likely to be the stub axle? if this is so , then it will be a reliativley easy fix (i think)
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stub axles an easy enough swap, but if it was me i would swap a full rear axle just to be safe :smiley:
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Ok then full change it is. May as well paint the new one too.
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While its off you may aswell. My mk2 had a bent rear axle. Im glad i swapped the lot as a new stub woildnt have solved the issue
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after 2 days of panel pulling and filling, im almost done. ill spray with primer, twice. then a quick wet and dry with some superfine grit. (photos to follow)
so... i brought the amp, its a Directed 404A - rather large. wont be using any sub or anything, just a couple of 6x9. i dont think radio two sounds good coming from a giant bass tube. :nerd:
Q. Fill the rear VW badge + hole, or leave it on?
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after 2 days of panel pulling and filling, im almost done. ill spray with primer, twice. then a quick wet and dry with some superfine grit. (photos to follow)
so... i brought the amp, its a Directed 404A - rather large. wont be using any sub or anything, just a couple of 6x9. i dont think radio two sounds good coming from a giant bass tube. :nerd:
Q. Fill the rear VW badge + hole, or leave it on?
Coming along nice mate....
Get a 12" sub in there. I've had one in all my cars and you can't beat it. I listen to all sorts of music through it, even modern neoclassical and its like night and day with and without.
I myself am contemplating the rear badge, wiper hole filling. My rear badge had already been filled with half a tin of filler but have removed it all back to bare metal. Looking at images of Mk3's I think i'm going to fill them in although properly with actual metal this time lol. Although i'm still a long way off getting round to it.
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well its nearly the weekend and i have been putting off these image uploads!
Be gentle this is my first bodywork atempt!
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/DUB%20PROJECT/bodywork1009.jpg)
engine in and running Sweet(ish) well it will after new leads and plugs :grin:
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/DUB%20PROJECT/bodywork1004-Optimized.jpg)
After the initial pull and 3 covers and sands.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/moifstar/DUB%20PROJECT/bodywork1005.jpg)
lower part pulled and filled. 2 coats in.
i have given it the last fill and sand, ill try and prime it this weekend.
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Engine looking great,
the repair work also look pretty neat so far, are ther before pics of the damage?
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Great work on the 'bay mate!
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the repair work also look pretty neat so far, are ther before pics of the damage?
nah, got a bit carried away, but it was bad