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Title: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Craig1.8T on 20 October 2011, 19:14
hello i recentley perchased some Philips Blue Vision bulbs hoping they would be better than the original, they arent really. im looking for the closest possible light to HID without actually getting HID's seeing as they are illegal! just want a nice crisp white light  :laugh: :cool:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: porter_89 on 21 October 2011, 10:03
im afraid its either hids or projectors and they aint cheap

cheers
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 October 2011, 10:19
im afraid its either hids or projectors and they aint cheap

cheers

Not necessarily.. Projectors alone do not give off better light.

I can confess that although I am against aftermarket HIDs especially when it comes to incorrect fitment, I have in the past dabbled with brighter, whiter h4 bulbs which are technically illegal.

The first time I made a relayed Headlight loom for one of my MK1s I found that there were some great bulbs available proving you have the correct wiring and switchgear that can handle them.

Ring Rally Sport bulbs - Very white light but range from 80-130w
Ring Sports Blue - as above with a slight blue tint
Ring All Weather - Give a yellowish tint and work great in damp conditions

Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 21 October 2011, 12:56
i got some bosch ones from halfrouds, cost about a tenner so not too bad, seem decent bulbs, im sure theres better ones out there but they give off a pretty good white light, they look ok, and seem to light up the road miles better than any other bulb ive had so cant complain :)
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: thatwillis on 21 October 2011, 16:18
I found that projectors with normal bulbs vs reflectors with normal bulbs the projectors are worse!

The philips extreme ones i had previously where alot better than standard ones.

Love my HIDS  :grin: Fitted properly, don't blind other drivers (don't get flashed by people coming the other way) Headlight adjusters fitted.
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 October 2011, 16:32
I found that projectors with normal bulbs vs reflectors with normal bulbs the projects are worse!

The philips extreme ones i had previously where alot better than standard ones.

Love my HIDS  :grin: Fitted properly, don't blind other drivers (don't get flashed by people coming the other way) Headlight adjusters fitted.

Yep... My 28 year old mk1 lights with upgraded loom/relays with standard lenses and bulbs are better than my 2 year old daily with projectors. 
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Craig1.8T on 22 October 2011, 00:12
I found that projectors with normal bulbs vs reflectors with normal bulbs the projectors are worse!

The philips extreme ones i had previously where alot better than standard ones.

Love my HIDS  :grin: Fitted properly, don't blind other drivers (don't get flashed by people coming the other way) Headlight adjusters fitted.

how much were your properly fitted hids? :) i want some nowwww!!!! LOL  :laugh:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Wayne on 22 October 2011, 08:05
Love my HIDS  :grin: Fitted properly, don't blind other drivers (don't get flashed by people coming the other way) Headlight adjusters fitted.

Are they still not illegal and an mot failure however  :undecided:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: luke on 22 October 2011, 10:46
I bought some bulbs from car user yesterday that are meant to be 100w 5500k, they're as crap as the original bulbs!
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: shaft69 on 22 October 2011, 11:40
Going to fit hids to my car and it will never fail mot as I mot my own car. ;-)
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 22 October 2011, 11:46
My car passed the mot with hid's they didn't even look to see what kind of bulbs are in there aslong as there pointing the right way your fine  :smiley:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 October 2011, 14:38
My car passed the mot with hid's they didn't even look to see what kind of bulbs are in there aslong as there pointing the right way your fine  :smiley:

Wait until next year, law changes.
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: gixer1400 on 22 October 2011, 20:33
My car passed the mot with hid's they didn't even look to see what kind of bulbs are in there aslong as there pointing the right way your fine  :smiley:

Wait until next year, law changes.

which law and in what way will it affect users of non original lights ?   :huh:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Wayne on 22 October 2011, 21:29
My car passed the mot with hid's they didn't even look to see what kind of bulbs are in there aslong as there pointing the right way your fine  :smiley:

Wait until next year, law changes.

which law and in what way will it affect users of non original lights ?   :huh:

Mot law is changing from Jan 2012 and HID's will be illegal.
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: scottv6 on 22 October 2011, 21:45
dont see how 6k hids can be illegal? iv seen new mercs,bmws,audis with much brighter lights than my hids.
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Wayne on 22 October 2011, 21:47
dont see how 6k hids can be illegal? iv seen new mercs,bmws,audis with much brighter lights than my hids.

Yes but the big difference is they are designed for them.
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: scottv6 on 22 October 2011, 21:53
so its nothing to do with the brightness??  just had a quick check on the new mot law and remaps are going to be illegal aswel  :undecided:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Wayne on 22 October 2011, 21:59
so its nothing to do with the brightness??  just had a quick check on the new mot law and remaps are going to be illegal aswel  :undecided:

Nope beam pattern is the main problem, cannot see the remap thing happening (I think they scrapped it anyway  :undecided: )
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: scottv6 on 22 October 2011, 22:03
i no what your saying about the beam pattern but if there not pointing up in the air or blinding other drivers i dont see the problem.

also was reading about other new mot laws and seems moddified cars wount be very welcome  :angry:


glad im wanting to go for something sensible  :smiley:

anyay back to topic i used to have some bulbs i got from halfords wich were there own and were brilliant  :smiley:
Title: Re: lights again, hid equivalent
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 22 October 2011, 23:11
IF you retrofit then you need levellers and headlight washers.

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