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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: CM690 on 19 October 2011, 13:06

Title: Induction pipe
Post by: CM690 on 19 October 2011, 13:06
I've see a lot of chavs mainly that have a cold air induction pipe sticking out there front bumpers in different places and wondered if this actually makes any difference in performance at all? Especially seeing as most of them are using standard air boxes.

If they are actually worth it I'll pick up a black one or something (less visible/chavvy)  and have it direct some cold air into my standard 1400 air pipe. :drool:

Are they worth it?
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Khare on 19 October 2011, 13:15
Cold air will always be a benefit for petrol cars. I run my cold air feed from my fog light straight into the airbox. Then again it's not a standard airbox.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04145.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110208_144606.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0053.jpg)

If you see on the top right corner of the airbox, above the ram intake, you can see a hole where the cold air feed goes into.

Certainly didn't hinder performance on the rolling road and was up 5hp from standard (among some other stuff).
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: javalin on 19 October 2011, 16:26
as the airbox feeds from the o/s/f wing (on my 8v anyway) isn't that the same thing more or less?
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: CM690 on 19 October 2011, 23:28
Well I had nothing to do this afternoon so I got some pipe and put one on my mk3 :p I'll let you know if I notice a difference :)
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Khare on 19 October 2011, 23:40
as the airbox feeds from the o/s/f wing (on my 8v anyway) isn't that the same thing more or less?

From the front air is forced into the pipe and into the airbox. From the wing there's no direct air so the airbox sucks in air from there. It's better to get rid of that and put a cold air intake from the front.

Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Khare on 19 October 2011, 23:40
Well I had nothing to do this afternoon so I got some pipe and put one on my mk3 :p I'll let you know if I notice a difference :)

If you do it's placebo. You won't notice a difference (it's literally one or two horsepower) but the dyno will.
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Godzilla on 20 October 2011, 00:10
My homemade induction feed made nice gains on the rollers.

All I did was remove the front fog and put a bit of tubing in there that led to the intake of the airbox. Then I put a bit of mesh across the tubing as it was not the prettiest of sights.

This is how it looks......

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Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: VW BUSH on 21 October 2011, 19:29
Could fail an MOT if you only have one working fog light on the front :wink:
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: gti gaz on 21 October 2011, 20:17
i have one in the bumper wish i had hid it a bit better now but does make a diffrence cold air feed and panal filter all the way
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 22 October 2011, 03:28
Could fail an MOT if you only have one working fog light on the front :wink:

Is that right? I wasn't sure about this as mine only has 1 fog working on the front but it passed ok. While researching I read it only needed the fog working on the back and the fog indicator in the cabin?

back on topic, I have my cold air feed cable tied to the passenger side bottom grill :P No idea if it makes a difference as I've never run the engine without it, but it roars like a beast  :evil:
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Ess_Three on 22 October 2011, 11:34
A cold air feed is good...cold air is always good.
But, Ram Air only works on a sealed induction system...so if you go to the trouble of finding the highest pressure area at the front and duct aid from there, you will only see the (small) gain at high speed with a sealed induction system...and holes in the airbox and you lose the pressure.

You can add as much cold air as you want...but any holes in the airbox wing side, bottom or otherwise and you WILL be sucking in warm air as the engine will suck from the point of least resistance.

So a totally sealed airbox is best - except if you hit lots of standing water you run the risk of hydrolocking the engine.
Just ask the owner of my first GTI who hade to replace the engine after a period of flooding!

It's all a balance :-)
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: mush on 22 October 2011, 11:44
my cold air feed pipe sits behind the bottom right vent on the back so you cant see it at all

the cold air feed pipe is normally silver inside ive just sprayed this black job done and not looking chav
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: VW BUSH on 22 October 2011, 12:31
Could fail an MOT if you only have one working fog light on the front :wink:

Is that right? I wasn't sure about this as mine only has 1 fog working on the front but it passed ok. While researching I read it only needed the fog working on the back and the fog indicator in the cabin?

back on topic, I have my cold air feed cable tied to the passenger side bottom grill :P No idea if it makes a difference as I've never run the engine without it, but it roars like a beast  :evil:




All fitted front lights need to be in working order, swap other fog for reflector and remove/Hide loom if you get any grief from MOT, traffic cops could be a bit more difficult.







Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: Godzilla on 22 October 2011, 15:32
According to VOSA front fog lights do not need to be in working order for an MOT, the rear fog/fogs is a legal requirement.  I only found this out on Friday due to me taking my VR6 for her MOT.
Title: Re: Induction pipe
Post by: tweed on 22 October 2011, 17:31
On my old 16v I had hella twins, I took out the center lamp and replaced it with a big trumpet (got it from a data cable box from site) I then got the 8v trumpet from inside the 8v airbox. I got a hole saw same size as that, and then made the original hole on the airbox bigger. I sealed the 8v trumpet to the air box then got a hose to connect the two.

The result was 10mph down a 1.1 mile straight  :wink:

Also had to cut the hella's to make it fit. I didn't mind as mine where cracked and in bad shape.

I recommend this to anyone.