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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Mikester on 17 October 2011, 15:08
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Would you buy one? :grin:
I have been browsing and mighty tempted to replace my current car (Civic Type R) with one like the below example:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3332784.htm
I dont need a sensible car, i dont have children and dont need to carry more shopping than the passenger footwell can hold!
I was browsing other RWD cars, like BMW M3's, 350Z's, S2000'S etc, but why not have a porsche badge?
Only down side i can see is servicing costs and the fact people will think your an idiot?
(http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/3332/3332784-1.jpg)
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thats about the only boxster u could have the 2.7 isnt that fast but there fantastic to drive so the 3.2s a good choice
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A friend has the newer shape boxster S on a 57 plate. Its pretty impressive!
Bang for buck this has to be a good thing?
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been in a few an thought the 2.7 still had the handbrake on :grin: :grin: but on country roads was a blast
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Whats the insurance like on one of those at 23?
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Whats the insurance like on one of those at 23?
Yet to check, however a friend of mine who lives a few doors down has the newer shape one at 21... So must be possible.
My insurance seems to be flat lined on price. I got quotes the other week to move to a Mk5 R32, E46M3, Bmw 330D (new shape) etc etc. All the same rough price...
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Personally. no i wouldnt own one. something about them i just dont like.
however. wouldnt turn down a drive in one cause im sure it would be a laugh to drive
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Whats the insurance like on one of those at 23?
Yet to check, however a friend of mine who lives a few doors down has the newer shape one at 21... So must be possible.
My insurance seems to be flat lined on price. I got quotes the other week to move to a Mk5 R32, E46M3, Bmw 330D (new shape) etc etc. All the same rough price...
£1100, Fully comp + business use. £250 excess bla bla bla.
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Whats the insurance like on one of those at 23?
Yet to check, however a friend of mine who lives a few doors down has the newer shape one at 21... So must be possible.
My insurance seems to be flat lined on price. I got quotes the other week to move to a Mk5 R32, E46M3, Bmw 330D (new shape) etc etc. All the same rough price...
£1100, Fully comp + business use. £250 excess bla bla bla.
decent price that. Hideous looking car though :undecided:
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I would.
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Steer well clear of Boxsters, total engine failures are very common, even on low miles cars, starts off with a very subtle rattle, that people in the know, know about! inspection of a removed oil filter reveals metal fragments, confirming that the engine has little time left, before it lets go! assume this is one of those cars!
Thom
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JUST MY OPINION :wink:
Personally there a 'back up' for someone that cant afford a 911. (fair play to you, that you can afford one as I certainly cant :smiley:) but thats how I always will look at them and why I wouldnt get one even if I could afford one! The boxsters just dont do anything for me!
How ever E46 M3's = :cool:
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Go drive one then see if you feel the same. You could buy a decent second hand 911 for the price of a new boxster, people dont though as they are completely different cars.
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Not my thing personally, never been a fan of convertibles and you can get more for your money elsewhere. However if like you say you can afford it, and have no commitments, then why not?
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Steer well clear of Boxters, total engine failures are very common, even on low miles cars, starts off with a very subtle rattle, that people in the know, know about! inspection of a removed oil filter reveals metal fragments, confirming that the engine has little time left, before it lets go! assume this is one of those cars!
Thom
Early production M96 engines had a small number of engine failures which was down to cracked or slipped cylinder liners, but since a minor redesign in 2000 those problems were sorted also the intermediate shaft (IMS) bearings had a habit of breaking up, later ones and a lot / most of the early ones were modified to sort the problem.
The 3.2 is a lot better than the 2.5 / 2.7 in many respects.
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Not sure how true it is, but I was warned to watch out for ones with around 50k on the clock as they would be due a water pump replacement which required the engine to come out...apparently v expensive. :rolleyes:
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id go for 350z all day long over the porsche
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Steer well clear of Boxters, total engine failures are very common, even on low miles cars, starts off with a very subtle rattle, that people in the know, know about! inspection of a removed oil filter reveals metal fragments, confirming that the engine has little time left, before it lets go! assume this is one of those cars!
Thom
Early production M96 engines had a small number of engine failures which was down to cracked or slipped cylinder liners, but since a minor redesign in 2000 those problems were sorted also the intermediate shaft (IMS) bearings had a habit of breaking up, later ones and a lot / most of the early ones were modified to sort the problem.
The 3.2 is a lot better than the 2.5 / 2.7 in many respects.
A mate recently swapped the engine of his wife's 05 plate Boxster, after it let go, cost him 3k for just the engine! did all work himself, and got rid of the car sharpish!
Thom
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boxster - gay
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Poor mans porche tbh....
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Poor mans porche tbh....
but many ppl would say they drive better than a 911
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Poor mans porche tbh....
Of course they are
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3223656.htm
Hang on though, this is cheaper?
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3319531.htm
Maybe the boxster offers a completely different drive and ownership experience of the 911? I wonder if its just people who have driven neither of them have no real idea and have ignorant views?
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Lovely car to drive. But those who know Porsches will always think to themselves "Couldn't afford a 911".
Ignore them.
However, do your research thoroughly and get any potential purchase inspected. Porsches can make you bleed money... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I would buy one, but I'm not one who cares what other people think. Point proven with my current car :grin:
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Lovely car to drive. But those who dont know Porsches will always think to themselves "Couldn't afford a 911".
Ignore them.
However, do your research thoroughly and get any potential purchase inspected. Porsches can make you bleed money... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Fixed :wink:
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I've never been a fan of the boxer. I do love the S2000 s tho :laugh:
Tis a poor mans 911 at the end of the day. :tongue:
Get the extra dosh together for a 911
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I was looking at getting the same boxster as you a while back, mainly 2.7, also looked at the 350z as I like the look of them. Only to find out the 350z is slow as fack and the box has the ugliest cheap a$$ interior. You can get more car for that money so don't settle for it!
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What about a Z4 Mike?
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its not called a cockster for no reason,
id rather a vx220 turbo, s2000, e46 m3,
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05plate 911 v 11 plate boxster .... great comparison Jules :grin: (think that proves the point its a poor mans porsche)
They do drive well... but I couldnt get over the cheap a$$ looking interior. I also felt like i was waiting to be squashed in that cabin.. far too small for my liking.. and everytime you think there is something wrong with it porsche will give you all the joy you need :wink:
I would go with the s2000, z4 or m3.. :cool:
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Brilliant cars.
Like a go-kart with a big engine.
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I'd own one :cool:
Then again I've owned a Frontera :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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Maybe the boxster offers a completely different drive and ownership experience of the 911?
It does. I'm sure you know that too :-)
Boxster is the better handling car at first drive - the more natural...and properly brilliant to drive.
The 911 more edgy and scarey...both will swap ends if driven like a goon...the arse end of the 911 will go if provoked, whereas the Boxster will swap ends in it's own length!
Personally, I think the Cayman is better than the Boxster...and I very nearly swapped my 911 for one...but it was almost too good/natural...it didn't do all the odd things that make the 911 such a challenge.
But as a pure drivers car, the Boxster is about as good as it'll get.
The power and torque may not sound much...but many years ago I got shown the way home by a Boxster...I was in a 280 BHP/330 lb-ft S3 with a properly sorted chassis and Brembo brakes...oh, and on a wet morning too.
They go...and go well. :smiley:
I wonder if its just people who have driven neither of them have no real idea and have ignorant views?
Most, I'll wager :grin:
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Lovely car to drive. But those who know Porsches will always think to themselves "Couldn't afford a 911".
Ignore them.
However, do your research thoroughly and get any potential purchase inspected. Porsches can make you bleed money... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
There is an easy solution to that - but not the cheapest solution:
Budget for a Porsche warranty or good aftermarket warranty, and get used to it being an additional yearly cost...approx £1000-1200...and if if breaks, it gets fixed, and you get something nice to run about it whilst the car is fixed.
The other piece of advice would be to drive it daily.
The majority of the 'issues' I suffered were added to by it sitting for long periods, letting the seals dry out etc.
The guys I know that drive Boxsters daily have NO issues...servicing isn't bad, tyre were is superb, as it break wear, and they don't wear suspension bushes out like VWs do!!
In 3 1/2 years and 13000 miles my S3 used 3 sets of tyres, 3 sets of brakes (including some LCR Brembos), wore out 3 suspension bushes and averaged 22 MPG.
My 911 used 2 rear tyres, used one set of brakes and averaged 19 MPG.
Porsches expensive to run?
Not really...the services cost more, but they wear out less 'stuff'.
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short back and sides please..
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my friend used to work for a rental company and he took me out in the works Carrera 4 S i know its not what your looking for but i thought it was absolutely great.. the interior was nice comfortable and loads of mod cons.. it sounded sweet as you boot it.. all down to personal preference ive looked at boxster S's but at the moment insurance is just too steep for it to be viable
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A friend of mine finally bought one last year after going on and on and on about it for about 2 years before that. Tbf he took about 6 for an independant inspection and was warned off them, so ended up with an rx8 in between. He was quite picky as it had to be black, had to have upgraded bose sound system etc etc....... but he researched the problems they have thoroughly, and took em to a porsche specialist he knew and trusted for inspection. Cost him £100 each time, but money well spent if your spending that much on a car imo. The one he chose was the best of em all, but still needed coil packs which cost him a couple of hundred quid.
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My dads got an 09 and loves it very nice cars to drive. :cool:
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In 3 1/2 years and 13000 miles my S3 used 3 sets of tyres, 3 sets of brakes (including some LCR Brembos), wore out 3 suspension bushes and averaged 22 MPG.
:shocked:
How you have managed to go through 3 sets of tyres on a 4WD car in the space of 13k is a mystery to me!! Do you live on the Isle of Sandpaper?
Athough not the same car (but probably more prone to tyre wear than the s3) my R was driven pretty hard most of the time and I still got 10k from a set a tyres.
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Im guessing the 8L model S3?
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Im guessing the 8L model S3?
Even still... less than 4.5k on a set of 4?? :shocked:
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Still don't understand how quick your going through them, I knew a cupra with 300bhp which was going through tires at the same rate as my 195bhp golf, which is about 9k on eagles, f452, etc...
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How you have managed to go through 3 sets of tyres on a 4WD car in the space of 13k is a mystery to me!! Do you live on the Isle of Sandpaper?
Athough not the same car (but probably more prone to tyre wear than the s3) my R was driven pretty hard most of the time and I still got 10k from a set a tyres.
I had the chassis set up pretty extreme to try and make one of the dullest cars I've owned, more interesting...and to try to kill the understeer.
It went well, but 330+ lb-ft and an aggrerssive set up eats tyres.
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Im guessing the 8L model S3?
Yup. 8L.
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Still don't understand how quick your going through them, I knew a cupra with 300bhp which was going through tires at the same rate as my 195bhp golf, which is about 9k on eagles, f452, etc...
Well, doesn't 22 MPG, 3 sets of tyres, 3 sets of brakes and numerous suspension bushes give you a clue?
BHP doesn't kill tyres...torque - and more specifically, torque delivery - does.
I know what I had to replace...and in the same miles my C4S used a set of rear Polot Sports - despite a hoon round Europe at high speed and 18 laps of the 'ring.
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Regardless...the point here is not how crap the chassis on the 8L S3 is...it's how well Porsches are designed, engineered and set up.
The comparison remains valid - 3 1/2 years in each car, same driver, same sort of driving.
The difference being the Porsche is designed for it...the S3 is not.
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I can appreciate the poor mans porsche and i dont have the money to keep a 911! Although of course i would love one.
Its a case of comparing it against the other roadsters about in that price range.
Interesting comments thought and useful information, thank you!
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I've never been sold the on the poor man's Porsche thing, people said it about the 914, 924, neither of them were that cheap compared to their rivals at the time.
Boxsters are good cars, and unlike any other Porsche beforehand has been made in relatively high numbers. Taking that on board there will be a lot out there that have been neglected or not serviced correctly. So buy wisely and you'll have fun, the thing is with a Porsche it's not always how fast you go, but how you go fast ;)
Find a good independent and running costs should be kept at a minimum. This is one of the best places I've used recently for my 911:
http://www.specialistvehiclepreparations.com/
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There's a few ex Boxster owners on the MX-5 forum, they speak very highly of the car generally but they came back to 5's due to needing to go illegally fast to have fun in the Boxster and the running costs were a little steep.
Nick
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I can appreciate the poor mans porsche and i dont have the money to keep a 911! Although of course i would love one.
Its a case of comparing it against the other roadsters about in that price range.
Interesting comments thought and useful information, thank you!
The prices to run, maintain and warranty a Boxster are not that far off that of a 911...so this 'poor mans' crap just doesn't rub.
If you have a decent Specialist nearby, you have it cracked...certainly as good service at a far cheaper price.
I find the Boxster a bid bland to look at...but you don't buy one to look at...you buy it to drive, and at that, they are fantastic.
The smaller engined cars are probably over-chassis'd though...for me, i'd want the 3.2 to give it enough oomph to give you a bit of a scare if you get it wrong.
Get a later car with PSM (Porsche Stability Management) and you can be a real hooligan safely :-)
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So buy wisely and you'll have fun, the thing is with a Porsche it's not always how fast you go, but how you go fast ;)
Amen to that!! :grin:
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Im already sold i think, just need to find the right one.
It might even classify itself for a dub rides thread, haah
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So buy wisely and you'll have fun, the thing is with a Porsche it's not always how fast you go, but how you go fast ;)
Amen to that!! :grin:
Exactly, my 911 probably has the same amount of power than most GTi's these days and can only just hold it's own at traffic light grand prix with some of the faster stuff, but the driving experience is totally different. They are built and designed from the onset as a sportscar not a hotted up hatcback, so the driving experience is miles apart. They just delivery all the way through the range and just want to give more.
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Im already sold i think, just need to find the right one.
It might even classify itself for a dub rides thread, haah
Go drive one.
Find a twisty road and go see if you gel with it.
Then you'll know.
It may not be the fastest car in a straight line...911s aren't (unless they are turbos) but on a twisty, challenging road...they are brilliant to drive.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ttarLa9q40&feature=related
5.30 onwards.
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911 Turbos make me giggle like a child. Drove my friends late 70's 4 speeder Turbo quite a few times and the way they accelerate, even the old ones, is mind blowing and very addictive.
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Whats your budget???
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3327652.htm :evil:
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I was thinking of purchasing a friends Z4 cab (good price) but I was put off as they do look like girls cars!
Get a 993 Porsche with a HUGE spoiler and be done with it :cool:
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You need about £20k to get a decent 993.
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If I was spending £16k I wouldn't want a Cat C!
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If I was spending £16k I wouldn't want a Cat C!
Good point.. i didnt scroll down tbh. Another couple of g's and you can stil get a good one :cool:
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What about an Audi TT mk2, can be had around that price, looks nice with the spoiler:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3319687.htm
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What about an Audi TT mk2, can be had around that price, looks nice with the spoiler:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3319687.htm
Not even in the same league as a boxster as a drivers car.
OP. If you are going from a Honda to a Porsche, you need to carefully consider your running costs.
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What about an Audi TT mk2, can be had around that price, looks nice with the spoiler:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3319687.htm
Not even in the same league as a boxster as a drivers car.
OP. If you are going from a Honda to a Porsche, you need to carefully consider your running costs.
As of march next year i am being moved at work to a place i can push bike too. Which means car becomes more of a toy. :)
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As of march next year i am being moved at work to a place i can push bike too. Which means car becomes more of a toy. :)
This is a great thing to do. :cool: