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Title: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 09:41
Hi All,

Just got my 1st GTI a few weeks ago and seriously considering a remap to take it to the next level.

after deciding i want to go for a "trustworthy name" on the market i've narrowed my search to APR and REVO, However after speaking to Awesome, they basically (in a nutshell) told me REVO was better than APR, so i done a bit more digging and found out Awesome use to distribute APR and for 1 reason or another cut ties with them and switched to REVO.

However what i really need to know as i believe i will go with REVO is the following:

What other parts should be upgraded to deal with REVO Stage One?

If upgrades are necessary will my warrenty be invalid by any of these changes (understand the remap will be undetectable by the stealers unless driven and they can tell the differance)?

Is REVO better than APR and if yes or no..... why?


Title: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 09:56
This relates to a MK5 GTI people
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: shaft69 on 14 October 2011, 11:10
I'm running APR remap on my mk4 bloody quick mate, but getting custom stage 2 r-tech map next.
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: MaXXeH on 14 October 2011, 11:11
Go to rtech mate they are the future :cool:
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 11:54
but i need to know about MK5 and what upgrades i will need to do in addition.
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: shaft69 on 14 October 2011, 11:59
If you go on APR site they show mods req'd to get best out of remaps
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Rhyso on 14 October 2011, 12:00
but i need to know about MK5 and what upgrades i will need to do in addition.

Stage 1 you don't need to do anything really.

Make sure the engine is in good working order, check that the coilpacks have been replaced under warranty and go from there.

The DV (diverter valve) does tend to fail after a remap but the latest part from VW is revised to alleviate this problem and is a third of the price of the Forge one

You mention warranty so I can only presume you've got an extended warranty as your MK5 is well outside its manufacturer's one
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 12:20
but i need to know about MK5 and what upgrades i will need to do in addition.

Stage 1 you don't need to do anything really.

Make sure the engine is in good working order, check that the coilpacks have been replaced under warranty and go from there.

The DV (diverter valve) does tend to fail after a remap but the latest part from VW is revised to alleviate this problem and is a third of the price of the Forge one

You mention warranty so I can only presume you've got an extended warranty as your MK5 is well outside its manufacturer's one

yes i have extended warrenty but you mention diverter valve i have heeard fuel pump may need changing? any truth?

so form the above can i safely say you will recommend REVO over APR?
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Rhyso on 14 October 2011, 12:32
but i need to know about MK5 and what upgrades i will need to do in addition.

Stage 1 you don't need to do anything really.

Make sure the engine is in good working order, check that the coilpacks have been replaced under warranty and go from there.

The DV (diverter valve) does tend to fail after a remap but the latest part from VW is revised to alleviate this problem and is a third of the price of the Forge one

You mention warranty so I can only presume you've got an extended warranty as your MK5 is well outside its manufacturer's one

yes i have extended warrenty but you mention diverter valve i have heeard fuel pump may need changing? any truth?

so form the above can i safely say you will recommend REVO over APR?

Fuel pumps tend to be a factor on very high mileage cars.  You only need a high pressure fuel pump when going further than a Stage 1 remap

I wouldn't recommend either of those but that's down to my personal preference in how they drive.  I find REVO very agressive low down.  I can't comment on APR as I've never driven an APR mapped car.

If you like OEM power delivery then any of the forum traders here are a much better bet.  If you were closer to me I'd take you out in my mate's MK5 GTI so you could see for yourself how well it drives  :smiley:
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Wayne on 14 October 2011, 13:01
After looking around and asking I was told Revo is very peaky so was best avoided.

Better to find a good local company or carbon (who do a mobile service I believe)
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 14:00
thank you for the info.

doesn't REVO work closely with VW, if this is the case then wouldn't REVO be a good start for remapping?
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: tshirt2k on 14 October 2011, 14:04
People are telling you not to use Revo. So why are you so keen to use them?
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 14:08
People are telling you not to use Revo. So why are you so keen to use them?

I stated my reasons on the 1st post.

Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Rhyso on 14 October 2011, 14:22
thank you for the info.

doesn't REVO work closely with VW, if this is the case then wouldn't REVO be a good start for remapping?

No.  REVO will grab hold of a test car for R&D purposes and go from there. 

http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=software_development
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Yohan on 14 October 2011, 14:30
You posted the topic looking for advice and people who know more about maps and REVO are sharing it with you. If REVO and APR were the only two companies in the world who mapped these cars then I'm sure people would use one over the other.

As it stands there are a lot more companies out there than just REVO who do a better job and that is what the members of this forum are trying to tell you.

It pays to do your research.

Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 14:38
Yohan,

not trying to cause uproar.........

i totalling understand what the forum members are saying, but what i'm saying is that i want info on REVO and APR.
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 14:38
Thanks Ryhso,

All noted with thanks
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Wayne on 14 October 2011, 14:45
but what i'm saying is that i want info on REVO and APR.

Why are you not interested in other companies, so many other choices these days  :smiley:
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 14:47
you got me thinking....

what would you suggest?
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: Wayne on 14 October 2011, 14:50
you got me thinking....

what would you suggest?

Have a word with Craig or Nick @ http://www.carbon-chiptuning.co.uk/
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: mvb on 14 October 2011, 14:54
good stuff will do
Title: Re: Revo Stage 1 Remap Vs APR Help
Post by: RTechUK on 14 October 2011, 16:20
If it was just Revo and APR then Revo all the way imho.

If you want we can provide you with the Revo remap mobile or you can come to our workshop and get the works, full diagnostics, rolling road session, custom mapping via the SPS switch with before and after rr graphs.

Nick