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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Sam on 13 October 2011, 18:04
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Had a massive 2hr workshop/lecture today with two blokes from a company called Simms (the worlds biggest scrap metal recycling company) and they were going though a few figures with us which I thought may be of some interest to you guys.
Their biggest crusher is the same size as 4 average houses and will crush a double decker bus dropped in whole.
Their car crushers that do 3 cars at a time cost £800 in electricity just to turn on with nothing in.
The same machine costs £70,000 per month in electric bills when crushing cars on a daily basis!
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shows how much money is in the scrap game as they can afford them bills and still make a mint !
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Their car crushers that do 3 cars at a time cost £800 pounds in electricity just to turn on with nothing in.
That's some current draw. I'd like to see the figures of how they arrive at that one.
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Their car crushers that do 3 cars at a time cost £800 pounds in electricity just to turn on with nothing in.
That's some current draw. I'd like to see the figures of how they arrive at that one.
Well the two guys who came in were head of sustainability in the UK so no one questioned there figures.
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And they blame motorist for global warming :rolleyes:
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And they blame motorist for global warming :rolleyes:
They said that they use 2% of the power that it would take to make all the steel they process from scratch. This becomes even lower when you include the plastics they recycle.
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Average of £100-150 per car these days. to the customer. THey must get about £175 on it.
That means @ 70k electric bill they need to crush 400 cars a month to make profit.
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Average of £100-150 per car these days. to the customer. THey must get about £175 on it.
That means @ 70k electric bill they need to crush 400 cars a month to make profit.
They recon to crush 500,000 cars a year :shocked:
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41,666 a month?
Seems a lot of cars!
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41,666 a month?
Seems a lot of cars!
Not all on a single site :laugh:
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Their car crushers that do 3 cars at a time cost £800 pounds in electricity just to turn on with nothing in.
That's some current draw. I'd like to see the figures of how they arrive at that one.
Aye i too call BS as at £800 That's 10,000 kwh at 8p a unit.. so if this thing is just turned on its going to be a few seconds at most so that means we are up at 100,000kw just to press the on button.. for what in reality is going to be just a fair few hydraulic pumps and a control system.. i think not sorry
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Suprised they aint diesel tbh!
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The biggest one is at SIMS site in Newport there was a Discovery Channel program about it a couple years ago. The figures are undeliverable. Know a few people who work there.
As for the prices being bull sh!t. I work in a factory and when we shut for a month the site save $4 million in gas, electric and water bills!
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Ohh yea i know the prices are rather steep but that's a factory and a hell of a one at that..but is there really gonna be a motor of that size to crush a car? it would be more economical to pick the thing up and drop it on the car..
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Only a small factory now but use alot of energy to run it.
I think your underestimating the SIMS crusher.
I cant find any videos on it but its massive and it doesnt crush them it rips them into thousands of small chunks. It has several massive rotating drums with hundreds of 5 inch long teeth with shred the car. It does about 120 cars an hour
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well then that's not a crusher that's more a shredder and i can imagine that yes they do use a fair bit more power.. i was thinking along these lines but bigger :wink:
http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08 (http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08)
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they would have to do at least 20 cars a day, where do all these cars come from, the industry cant be turning over that quickly, surely?
if anyone on here is from bham, youll be familiar with henry taroni (taronis) got a few sites around bham, that guys is minted! so when you go in for a new parcal shelf that you pay a tenner for, thats fack all change to him
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well then that's not a crusher that's more a shredder and i can imagine that yes they do use a fair bit more power.. i was thinking along these lines but bigger :wink:
http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08 (http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08)
Ah my bad, skimmed the first post and saw SIMS and immediately though it was on about their largest shredder
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Their car crushers that do 3 cars at a time cost £800 pounds in electricity just to turn on with nothing in.
That's some current draw. I'd like to see the figures of how they arrive at that one.
Aye i too call BS as at £800 That's 10,000 kwh at 8p a unit.. so if this thing is just turned on its going to be a few seconds at most so that means we are up at 100,000kw just to press the on button.. for what in reality is going to be just a fair few hydraulic pumps and a control system.. i think not sorry
Oh i'm very sorry, I didn't realise that the head of sustainability UK for simms and you were the same person? You should probally call the CEO and explain how you have f**ked up the figures!?
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well then that's not a crusher that's more a shredder and i can imagine that yes they do use a fair bit more power.. i was thinking along these lines but bigger :wink:
http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08 (http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08)
Ah my bad, skimmed the first post and saw SIMS and immediately though it was on about their largest shredder
nah i think you may of been right :embarassed:
Oh i'm very sorry, I didn't realise that the head of sustainability UK for simms and you were the same person? You should probally call the CEO and explain how you have f**ked up the figures!?
how i have f**ked up the figures? work it out for yourself then.. i'm not saying your wrong i'm saying his figures might be a bit exaggerated thats all.. didn't mean to offend :lipsrsealed:
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well then that's not a crusher that's more a shredder and i can imagine that yes they do use a fair bit more power.. i was thinking along these lines but bigger :wink:
http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08 (http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08)
Ah my bad, skimmed the first post and saw SIMS and immediately though it was on about their largest shredder
nah i think you may of been right :embarassed:
Oh i'm very sorry, I didn't realise that the head of sustainability UK for simms and you were the same person? You should probally call the CEO and explain how you have f**ked up the figures!?
how i have f**ked up the figures? work it out for yourself then.. i'm not saying your wrong i'm saying his figures might be a bit exaggerated thats all.. didn't mean to offend :lipsrsealed:
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I think the 'metal crushing interactive presentation' may have been the crusher he was on about http://uk.simsmm.com/products-and-services/metal-shredding
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:shocked:now that's more of a small factory than just a "car crusher" haha i think the wrong end of the stick was received :grin:
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I would take it that the electric consumption figures are for more than one machine, i.e. they have given running costs that relate to their 500,000 car turnover.... Impressive kit tho, I remember seeing a video of an engine block destroyer somewhere, also cool!
well then that's not a crusher that's more a shredder and i can imagine that yes they do use a fair bit more power.. i was thinking along these lines but bigger :wink:
http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08 (http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08)
Ah my bad, skimmed the first post and saw SIMS and immediately though it was on about their largest shredder
nah i think you may of been right :embarassed:
Oh i'm very sorry, I didn't realise that the head of sustainability UK for simms and you were the same person? You should probally call the CEO and explain how you have f**ked up the figures!?
how i have f**ked up the figures? work it out for yourself then.. i'm not saying your wrong i'm saying his figures might be a bit exaggerated thats all.. didn't mean to offend :lipsrsealed:
:kiss:
I think the 'metal crushing interactive presentation' may have been the crusher he was on about http://uk.simsmm.com/products-and-services/metal-shredding
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well then that's not a crusher that's more a shredder and i can imagine that yes they do use a fair bit more power.. i was thinking along these lines but bigger :wink:
http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08 (http://youtu.be/YwWHCP-GO08)
Ah my bad, skimmed the first post and saw SIMS and immediately though it was on about their largest shredder
nah i think you may of been right :embarassed:
Oh i'm very sorry, I didn't realise that the head of sustainability UK for simms and you were the same person? You should probally call the CEO and explain how you have f**ked up the figures!?
how i have f**ked up the figures? work it out for yourself then.. i'm not saying your wrong i'm saying his figures might be a bit exaggerated thats all.. didn't mean to offend :lipsrsealed:
:kiss:
I think the 'metal crushing interactive presentation' may have been the crusher he was on about http://uk.simsmm.com/products-and-services/metal-shredding
Thats the one, massive bit of kit. A conveyor takes the car up the top it gets shredded into small pieces then onto another conveyor straight into a massive tanker ship which goes straight to China.