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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Golf mk3 gallery => Topic started by: BISSONE on 10 October 2011, 17:07
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Hi all, Just imported this from another well known forum. Seems to be abit more MK3 loving on here so thought id share.
Right this is my new motor, got it for £381.12 off ebay odd amount but hey ho!
So anyway got mot till march and tax till end of the month and showing 70k on the clock but must of had engine changed at some time in its life, no service history but not really fust for that amount.
So here she is let me know what we think:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0637.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0635.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0641.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0636.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0639.jpg)
And the good bits has A/C which is always nice! and has got adjustable headlights aswell:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0632.jpg)
And no rust in some of the usualy spots:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0643.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0642.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0646.jpg)
Unfortunately the drivers side aint as good as the passenger:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0645.jpg)
Appologies for quality of some photos my camera is an **** lol.
And now for the bad bit my clocks are showing Cerr and have searched and doesnt seem anyone else has been able to shed any light on the cause of this fault?!?
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0634.jpg)
Now what the images dont show is that most of the panels excepts wings and passenger rear quater have been sprayed by some idiot with a paint can for no apparent reason, all look straight only thing i have noticed is some rust coming through one area so may have tried to cover that up?!?! who knows.
Also drivers side sill looks as though its a little flattened so see what shes like tomoz.
So plan is to rip her apart tomoz and see what iv got to deal with and hopefully get a list to gether of parts i shall need.
So today had abit of a mess with the car, in the centre console someone had wired in a push start button and it also had an alarm fitted (not working) so stripped the dash out to investigate.
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0647.jpg)
Removed the push start fairly quickly jus ta few orquadly placed cable ties to contend with and the alarm actualy turned out to be an original vag one:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0648.jpg)
Which made removal fairly straight forward, So anyway thats all sorted now so thought id have a quick look under the carpets as there normaly damp and flat as a pancake but too my suprise the underlay was bone dry and doesnt appear to ever have been wet, WINNER!
Unfortunately thats as far as the good luck went as i decided to investigate the flatish sill on the drivers side:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0661.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0662.jpg)
Brilliant im well chuffed and passenger sides not far behind:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0652.jpg)
Im sorry but im struggling to understand why anyone would weld a repair in and then not try and put any sort or underseal or protection on it?!?!?!
anyway that bad news didnt stop there, tops of sills:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0649.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0654.jpg)
And rear arches:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0663.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0664.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0667.jpg)
So over all been a good productive day lol. Looks like iv got my work cut out here!
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Doesn't seem like such a bargain now! Unless your handy with a welding torch that is! :grin:
Glad your getting it sorted though, another mk3 saved. :smiley:
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Don't really think that is worth saving.
Break it for spares and you should see most of your money back.
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Nah i like a challenge, couple of sills and new arches and should be fine....maybe a respray aswel lol! always good to save a MK3 as majority of VW fans have a hatred for the MK3 but i think its coming into its own now. Plus iv just sold my MK2 project so this will keep me occupied for a while.
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Now ive always wondered what a £381 car looked like and now you've shown me :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Be a good car to fix up if you can do the work yourself if your giving to a garage you could easily spend another £300 getting that welding done before paint !
Good luck !
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Now ive always wondered what a £381 car looked like and now you've shown me :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Be a good car to fix up if you can do the work yourself if your giving to a garage you could easily spend another £300 getting that welding done before paint !
Good luck !
Mine was £320 and boy it was 10000times better than this, break it for spares mate, Break it get some cash back, i wouldnt touch it, there are some really clean cars about £600 plus
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Yeah mine only cost £300, but with no MOT. £120 for a new bush and 1 sill welded and was on the road! :smiley:
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Jeez man, thats a lot of welding needed! Good luck!
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Yeah mine only cost £300, but with no MOT. £120 for a new bush and 1 sill welded and was on the road! :smiley:
Mine needed a new box and clutch but I would have changed the clutch anyway with it having 87k on the clock
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Bargain with that milage. Pity about the box though. Mine had 142k which still isnt mega high! Cant even get a dog sh!te corsa for this sort of price! :smiley:
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Bargain with that milage. Pity about the box though. Mine had 142k which still isnt mega high! Cant even get a dog sh!te corsa for this sort of price! :smiley:
Thats true mate, with no history on this car mate replaced engine and all this welding i wouldnt take it on unless you have all the skills to weld it, prep it and paint it
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Lol thats is what £318 gets you these days, plus a vague ebay description! Nah it is abit bad but im in no hurry, its not being used just purely project, hopefully be moving house in a month or so then ill have more space to crack on with it, been doin a few bits and bobs last few days so ill do an update tomoz.
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Shame it turned out to be so rusty but these cars just attract the stuff one of the reasons I moved on from my old mk3 and mine had very little but the threat was always there.If you do stick with it fair play but I think it would be better to break it just my view either way good luck :wink:
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That doesn't look good at all, is it repairable at all?
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:shocked:
Titanic aint got that much rust :grin:
You are a brave man.....
Whats with the rear end floating oakey?
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0635.jpg
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Youve got a kean eye, that was my first dose of the VW world, it was my mk2 16v i had it for 2 years, only drove it probly 1 out of the 2, id started stripping the underside to treat some areas of surface rust and reseal it hence floating, since then it has been sold as lack of storage space, bit gutted tbh but never mind.
Your all putting me off repairing the MK3 now, i didnt think it was too bad but your all swaying me lol
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Youve got a kean eye, that was my first dose of the VW world, it was my mk2 16v i had it for 2 years, only drove it probly 1 out of the 2, id started stripping the underside to treat some areas of surface rust and reseal it hence floating, since then it has been sold as lack of storage space, bit gutted tbh but never mind.
Your all putting me off repairing the MK3 now, i didnt think it was too bad but your all swaying me lol
break it, put the money towards something you can enjoy and do up at the same time
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You may be right, think ill have a good prod around it tomoro and make up my mind lol!
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Looks like a fair bit of work but don't let that put you off. I have recently begun a thread on here of my ebay purchase Mk3 Gti which i'm practically rebuilding and in the process of welding just now. Sills and arches along with other bits here and there. Panels are cheap, and aslong as you have the relative knowledge then its a worthwhile project.
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Bollocks to that, repair it. Makes a good hobby and yeah we can break this one, break the next but soon there won't be many left.
Just repair it and make a decent example, yeah OK it might not be original but all the more reason to slam it. :evil:
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After looking at those pictures, I really don't think it is worth saving.
Sorry but break it and make some money, you could get a much better car for not a lot more money.
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nuts to that, repair it. Makes a good hobby and yeah we can break this one, break the next but soon there won't be many left.
Just repair it and make a decent example, yeah OK it might not be original but all the more reason to slam it. :evil:
it looks past repairing, I would rather put my money in some nice wheels, decent suspension, nice stereo, its all good having a project but if i saw that everyday on my drive or garage i would be thinking, I wish i bought something else
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You have a good point i have to admit but then again i need to bare in mind i only bought it as a project, im in no hurry to finish it and although it is a rust bucket it does have some good points lol, not many ill admit but a few :tongue:, ill see how it goes its only £380 at the end of the day if it comes to a stage when iv started chopping the rust out and it gets worse and worse ill just break it but as it stands its a good car to better my skills.
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nuts to that, repair it. Makes a good hobby and yeah we can break this one, break the next but soon there won't be many left.
Just repair it and make a decent example, yeah OK it might not be original but all the more reason to slam it. :evil:
it looks past repairing, I would rather put my money in some nice wheels, decent suspension, nice stereo, its all good having a project but if i saw that everyday on my drive or garage i would be thinking, I wish i bought something else
You got your car and modified it. You've spent whatever on it.
Was it worth it? No. Worth it to you? Yes.
This is nowhere near beyond repairing.Just repair it and learn. I've even welded up old exhausts just for the experiance.
Unless you have bought a car just to use daily and not a project, in which case I agree, you would probably be better off getting something else.
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nuts to that, repair it. Makes a good hobby and yeah we can break this one, break the next but soon there won't be many left.
Just repair it and make a decent example, yeah OK it might not be original but all the more reason to slam it. :evil:
it looks past repairing, I would rather put my money in some nice wheels, decent suspension, nice stereo, its all good having a project but if i saw that everyday on my drive or garage i would be thinking, I wish i bought something else
You got your car and modified it. You've spent whatever on it.
Was it worth it? No. Worth it to you? Yes.
This is nowhere near beyond repairing.Just repair it and learn. I've even welded up old exhausts just for the experiance.
Unless you have bought a car just to use daily and not a project, in which case I agree, you would probably be better off getting something else.
Its very true, It was never meant as a daily as i use a van for work everyday neway. Bought this as i fancied a MK3 to do up as i wanted so hey ho here it is, could be a 1000 times better but then weres the fun in that.
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So neway in the last week or so i sold my MK2 so stripped it of its valuables that i wanted to keep as iv got a treasure trove of goodies for in the future as i plan on getting another MK2 at some stage. 1 of the things i took out was my Toad AI606 alarm as the guy who bought it told me he was completely stripping it to be repaired and having standalone DTA management for the 300+ 20V engine he was having built.
Due to the car having the VAG alarm from the factroy when i removed it i left most of the plugs etc connectedso made fitting the Toad ver nice, So here it is all Connecters on the end ready to plug and play:
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Got it all connected, Door protection front and back:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0730.jpg)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0744.jpg)
Central Locking connections at the pump:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0746.jpg)
Had to solder and shrink wrap the connections for the central locking and boot protection at the dash end:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0743.jpg)
Indicator Connections:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0740.jpg)
Starter Imobiliser, Decided to through crimp and heat shrink these as easier to remove in future:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0737.jpg)
Also Imobilised the fuel pump, again through crimp and heat shrink:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0741.jpg)
And here it is in its new home behind the glovebox where the VAG one sat:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0748.jpg)
Only thing left to do is mount the siren on other side of firewall underneath scuttle tray out of sight, and iv ordered the original bonnet switch bracket from VW to mount the new switch, just waiting to see if Germany have any lol.
Anyway im sorry if this is abit drab and boring but any progress is good pregress lol.
Also after looking at the clocks and the fact the rev counter only went to 6.5K and has no MFA it dawned on me there not GTI clocks and thats reason for Cerr code being displayed, so got myself a replacement set showing 125K:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0742.jpg)
Hopefully be able to get the alarm finished off for the weekend if the bracket turn up, going to swap both handles for rear delocked ones.
Passenger side already on:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0750.jpg)
A few weeks ago i ripped all the carpets up to have a look and give it a good vacume and had a good surprise drivers side as all the grommets were nice and not rusty:
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Had a bad surprise on passenger side as some of the grommets that side were rusty, another kick in the nuts but never mind. As you can guess i wasnt best pleased so never took a pic of that lol.
Sorry some of the pics are poor just rushing half the time.
Just gotta keep :grin: as could always be worse!
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:undecided: respect with fitting the alarm but would it not have been better to see how bad the rust is + work needed 1st.
140mph clocks are correct for a 8v btw, 16v was 160mph.
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:undecided: respect with fitting the alarm but would it not have been better to see how bad the rust is + work needed 1st.
140mph clocks are correct for a 8v btw, 16v was 160mph.
I know yeah, as i say the original ones only went upto 6.5K on the rev counter and had no MAF so werent GTI clocks.
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think if i was keeping it as a project i would strip the car bare
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Yeah i will be as i should be moving house in next month or so just havent got any room to put stuff where i am now, ill be leaving the dash and wiring in anyway though so didnt see the harm in getting it working lol.
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Bit of an update, was bored the other day and was reading something on web regarding changing the pins around in the lock barrels on VW's to match you key so found out a spare glovebox barrel so stripped mine and that 1 down and matched the pins up so i can now lock and unlock my glovebox super cool i know.....:cool: NOT LOL.
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A few weeks ago i bought a highline centre console of Ebay but the guy who sold me like an idiot didnt bother sending the fixing bracket, and stripped the gaitor from the handle. so been abit in the air with what to do with it and after a trip to VW this week found out you cant buy the handle seperately but the whole thing is still available for £68 odd if anyones interested lol. Anyway managed to find someone on ebay selling a wrecked handle with leather grip so bought that and hopefully should be able to strip that and pull mine over top.
Anyways took the gaitor off the console the other day as it was grubby and coming lose, i re-glued the gaitor to the frame and used some Autoglym leather cleaner and leather cream, its come up great i think!
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0760.jpg)
Exciting i know but get the easy stuff out the way before start the body work. Had something arrive in the post this week also:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0764.jpg)
Gunna start doing the front end over next week so watch this space. Like i said had a trip or two up to VW this week and ordered some gear:
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0763.jpg)
Ordered some new clips for scuttle cover, new pollen filter, Steering wrack gaitor and very happy to say that lovely panel in the picture is a genuine panel to repair that big bodged mess on the drivers side floor, also waiting on the passenger side to come from germany at mo so should look like new when i get chance to weld it in! priced up some sills but at £120 odd a side for half a sill i thought id leave them :grin:.
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Do you have a link for that barrel pin changing?? May get my boot one working independantly if I can do that!
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My non genuine sill cost me £15.
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http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=45
There you go dude, really useful too be fair glad i found it! the amount of golfs iv had with about 3 different keys lol not a problem now.
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My non genuine sill cost me £15.
Where did you get yours mate? i havent really looked to hard at mo but i know eurowagons do sills for £29.95 and arches for £28.90.
What did you pay for your arches aswel? know yours are 5 door but cant imagine much difference in price.
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Got them off ebay from national-spares. The sill and both rear arches were £15 each. Obviously they don't just slide on and needed a bit of manipulation to get them right but once thats done you would never know the difference.
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Best of luck, mine was riddled with holes but all welded up now :smiley:
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Cheers fella, mine must be swiss as its like cheese but ill get there, snails pace tho lol!
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C'mon man get the finger out lol. When you starting on the welding. All mines done!!
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Lol i know iv not done a fat lot, put it this way i had my first baby 3 weeks ago, weve just got a mortgage agreed so waiting to move and im skint lol so ive been quite busy...just not on the car. Doing some bits and bobs tho. Got my other floor section throught from VW other day, worth it i think at £18 a piece! :smug:
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Righty ho first thing the handle i bought off ebay fitted gaitor on console a treat, also picked up bracket and screw from VW
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0775.jpg)
Neway the point of the update done some Lamin-Xing on some its, Unfortunately my car had no reflectors when i bought it so £6 off the bay later and turned up, few marks but fort worth a bash, So sanded the writing off the front and went for it
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0768.jpg)
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Also when i went to remove my front fogs found both had a dirty crack up the front so back to the bay lol
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Pretty chuffed to be honest! think they look alot better but not too dark, also impressed with Lamin-X never used before but would recomend it. Just see if it stands test of time when fitted.
Just headlights to do when i get around to removing them.
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Just thought id make an update on this before it goes into the relm of the lost and unwanted lol.
Anyway nothing majorly exciting to declair really but here goes....
Finaly moved to my new house a month ago and made the brave and idiotic 10 mile trip in the MK3 to the new house, bearing in mind shes harldy been moved since i bought her and has no TAX or Insurance (has MOT though so 1 out of 3 aint bad) so neway thought id leave it till abit later in the evening as was abit quieter on the roads. Ill set the scene baby in the back of the daily screaming while my missus was reving the passat to try and bump-start the MK3 while we sit there in the dark freezing :undecided: so eventually 15 mins later get it going then relising the pertol is abit on the low side! So after a quick warm up and drive to the local petrol station feeling abit optomistic it would start again i filled her up and suprise suprise she wouldnt lol so again the scene baby in the back of the daily screaming while my missus was reving the passat to try and bump-start the MK3 sat on a texaco fore court on the A5 lol neway finaly got there so all was well just thought it was funny really!
So been of work a couple of days holiday before chrimbo so thought it was a good time to strip the rot box and see what surprises lay ahead:
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So yeah a few more wholes to contend with, areas around both gromets for ABS sensors i assume, are fubar aswel as the passenger floor front and back. Funny how drivers side is mint lol! Few bubbles around the rear turrets and a few scabs behind back bumper but nothin major, nothing a grit blaster wont clear.
Every cloud has a silver lining though as upon removing the rear seats i found a pound coin and a gold ring...WINNER :grin: so quick trip down to a couple of jewelers and turns out its a 15 carat gold ring made in 1890 lol so 121 years old! got £45 for it aswel so not a bad day really!
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h353/fordmistral/DSCF0798.jpg)
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Those bl00dy grommets! they, alongside plastic sill trim accelerate the tin worm process for MK3s!
Ah well, at least you're attacking it now before it gets any worse, because it will, and fast....
Can't believe you found that ring, how lucky was that!? Doesn't sound like you got enough for it if it's that old but then I know feck all about antiques. :grin:
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Can't believe you found that ring, how lucky was that!? Doesn't sound like you got enough for it if it's that old
I have a feeling your right, it has to be worth more. :undecided:
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Lol it was just sold on scrap value by its weight, both jewelers i took it to offered me the same amount, it werent really sumat id ware so sod it lol. Was quite happy though £46 for nout!
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Interesting, v.interesting...
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These Mk3's are full of surprises. I found a big doobie under my back seat.
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That mk3 is seriously not worth saving....... Ive broke much better ones for parts.
Full credit to you if you try but I would'nt touch it.
My track car is just a rotton as this and thats got a one way ticket to the crusher once ive had my fun out of it and re-shell it.
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Lol it is a heap im the first to admit it, tbh i may still break it yet as my hearts not really in it! I sold my MK2 recently which id started to restore and seriously regreted it as soon as i handed over the keys. Im currently selling aload of parts anyway and if i can get enough for them may sell the bits off this and buy another MK2 as i do love them.