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General => General discussion => Topic started by: mark_wiring on 07 October 2011, 19:34
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Hi guys
Basicly i have to get a engine running in a race car and i have the wiring diagram and an ecu and can easly make the loom to suit but what i need to know is if the ecu i have has the build in immobiliser which will stop it from working without the correct bits now as its a race car i don't have a key ect and just want to be able to push the start button and off we go lol.
I have read somewhere that i could have an ecu without but i need to be sure so thought i would join here and ask.
ecu numbers are 037 906 024 AG, 5WP4 167.
Any one have any ideas??
If it is fitted with the immobiliser is there somewhere any one can reccomend to get it programmed out?
Many thanks
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I think knowing what the engine is might help us and save digging out ETKA. :grin:
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I believe that its a 2e motor (pre/non immobiliser)
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Thanks for the replys,
Not knowing much about VW's (we all need to learn sooner or later) i believe the engine code is ABF
Does that match to that ecu or have we been given the wrong one?
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Cant remember my login to help, but you can find the ETKA online at http://www.vagcat.com/epc/. You need to register to see the parts diagrams etc but its safe.
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Had a quick look at that thank you for the info.
Right spent the day on the car and as i have never had any dealing with a VW before i have to admit to being a little lost.
It's an ABF engine,
Is it supposed to have a normal coil and separate ignition amp or the combined coil and amp setup?
Any one got the wiring diagram that suits which ever is the one i need?
Engine turns over and i have the injectors firing (checked with a light) so i must have the crankshaft sensor right, i don't have a spark and im sure im actually missing the ignition amp although i was told it was a complete loom and ecu to run the engine.
help! lol
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1996 onwards had built in Immobiliser
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Amp is built into the coil. Check that as a priority, very common failure.
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The 037 code suggests a Passat code part.
The ABF was never fitted to a Passat.
As already suggested, I think you have a 2E ECU which will not work with the ABF.
The ABF ECUs end in BA (non-immobiliser) and BE (immobiliser), IIRC.
Did you buy the whole lot as a running set up?
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Yes it was supposed to be the right ecu for the engine
Whats a 2E?
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Yes it was supposed to be the right ecu for the engine
Whats a 2E?
2.0 8v :smiley:
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Yes it was supposed to be the right ecu for the engine
Did it come with the loom?
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No it didn't that's why I'm having so many problems even more so if the ecu is actually for an 8v not 16v engine lol I'll continue banging my head on the wall lol
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If I'm honest I'd go find a complete car with an ABF fitted to it and pull the loom to template from at the very least.
Building from scratch means a lot of connectors etc, which won't be cheap.
Can you switch to Megasquirt and ITBs, or is this for a race series?
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It's going back from itb's and omex to STD for the race series
Think I'll go with the suggestion of finding a complete car to take the parts from
Thanks for the help guys
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How much for the Omex and ITBs?! :grin:
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Omex has gone already ITB's are Jenvey direct to head complete with tps fuel rail 330cc pico injectors and linkage £750
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Without wishing to tread on toes here I thought I'd raise a couple of points.
The ABF came with an immobiliser on cars built after March 1994. The original sticker on the top timing belt cover should help if it's present or the full ECU part number (sorry if you posted and I missed it)
The Passat did come with an ABF as standard but only for a short while. They are like hens teeth so unlikely you'll have parts from one but not impossible.
Lastly. I have a complete ABF engine loom which is outnofnthe car presently so let me know if you need pics and assistance.
Toddy
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The Passat did come with an ABF as standard but only for a short while. They are like hens teeth so unlikely you'll have parts from one but not impossible.
:huh:
ORLY? RHD?
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The Passat did come with an ABF as standard but only for a short while. They are like hens teeth so unlikely you'll have parts from one but not impossible.
:huh:
ORLY? RHD?
Yeah, I had one. In saloon form on a 1994 M plate
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Right just as an update
The ecu number i gave at the start of the thread has turned out to be for a 2.0 16v (I actually went and got another one from a running car and it has the same main number as the one i already had some of the smaller numbers were diff)
I sent the newer one off to have the immob programmed out of it which was done with no problems put it on the car yesterday afternoon and it still didnt start!!!!
At this point you have to remember i made a loom for the car as its a track toy i then spent the next 3 hours going back through the loom making sure i hadn't made a mistake.
Finally after checking everything i decided it was time for a new crankshaft position sensor that arrived put it in plugged it in turned it over and it runs (phew) plugged in the original ecu i had and it ran for 2 sec so i can only assume the ecu is immob)
So this morning its out on the track being well abused i think lol
Thanks for the help its been very much appreciated