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General => General discussion => Topic started by: tobybrennan on 07 October 2011, 18:30
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In may 2010 Tohseef Shah spray painted a british was memorial with "islam will dominate osama is coming" he was fined £50 and walked free from court. In november 2010 emdadur choudary burned a poppy during the two minutes silence he was to given a fine, £500 and walked free from court. Today to men have been sentanced to 12 months in prison for spray painting a poppy on a mosque. DISGRACE!
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I agree, absolute disgrace, they should be made to clean it off and get more than 12 months.
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sums up england! :sad:
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makes ya proud be british dont it :rolleyes: :sick:
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Pffft we are the Refuges in are own country its a joke!!! If i seen someone Vandalising a British Memorial Lets just say it would be an American History moment!!!! Boils my blood
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its the same with protecting your family if a burgular came in. He has more rights then then you. :angry: :angry:
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its the same with protecting your family if a burgular came in. He has more rights then then you. :angry: :angry:
Not today he didn't!
Thom
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its the same with protecting your family if a burgular came in. He has more rights then then you. :angry: :angry:
Not today he didn't!
Thom
I couldn't believe that today, makes a refreshing change for the law to side with the victim in those sort of cases.
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from every perspective, concerning this country, the criminal has more rights, the government has no back bone and is too scared to upset the minority, us tax paying working class have no rights or freedom of speech :rolleyes:
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Just f**ks me off..... I used to live in qatar (muslim country) and if you even thought about spraying something on a mosque ud end up in jail for life or dead!!!! Yet in our own county as you say our government/Legal system is to f**king scared!!!!
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its the same with protecting your family if a burgular came in. He has more rights then then you. :angry: :angry:
Not today he didn't!
Thom
I couldn't believe that today, makes a refreshing change for the law to side with the victim in those sort of cases.
Hopefully a clear cut warning to Burglars, common sense, and zero tolerance should now be the order of the day...
Thom
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from every perspective, concerning this country, the criminal has more rights, the government has no back bone and is too scared to upset the minority, us tax paying working class have no rights or freedom of speech :rolleyes:
You are excercising your right to free speach by typing this last post..... I do take your point though and agree that there certainly does seem to be some inequality going on in this country :smiley:. It certainly does look like a bit of inconsistency has been applied here! Im guessing they didnt get very good legal representation lol.
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perhaps its time for all the ' lovers of islam ' to leave the country that they obviously detest and return
to their 'homeland' were they will be happy ............................................
or maybe they wont enjoy the lack of ' human rights ' that they have come to expect in the UK ????
maybe there would be fewer cases of bias in the courts :undecided:
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Lets not turn this into a everyone hates Muslim's thread please :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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I dont hate them Lived with many of them for years... But the ones that aint happy Get them to f**k plain and simple!!!!!
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its the same with protecting your family if a burgular came in. He has more rights then then you. :angry: :angry:
Not today he didn't!
Thom
I couldn't believe that today, makes a refreshing change for the law to side with the victim in those sort of cases.
Hopefully a clear cut warning to Burglars, common sense, and zero tolerance should now be the order of the day...
Thom
I like the fact since David Cameron said people can protect their homes with reasonable force, the 3 burglars who all been killed have been in Manchester..makes me proud :D
Good on them I say, would do the same, fair play to the courts too..all 3 people , 2 homeowners and a shop worker, all let off.
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Hopefully Cameron will get his wish and they will scrap the human rights laws which protect the wrong people.
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Lets not turn this into a everyone hates Muslim's thread please :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
No, best not to, since this is a muslim country, where the indiginous are f**ked over and the rest are given the right to take over.
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isn't freedom of speech an american thing? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
might be wrong, its the right time of night for it.
regarding the op
joke. it has to be, i'm not condoning vandalising mosques or anything, but to get 12 months jail for vandalism is a bit of a joke imo, no wonder there is no room if you lock people up for next to nothing.
vandlising historic public memorials is a bit bad. i'd give lines to do. copy the bible out 400 times, do the same with the koran. see some of the points are the same just worded differently.
if i caught anyone irrespective of religon or anything messing with a war memorial i think i might show them the error of their ways
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from every perspective, concerning this country, the criminal has more rights, the government has no back bone and is too scared to upset the minority, us tax paying working class have no rights or freedom of speech :rolleyes:
I wouldn't give a f**k and would quite happily go to court and even go down for killing someone, if they put my families life at risk.. Anyone venturing onto my property after hours is feeling the full force of my wrath..
The same would have happened if i had owned a shop in London during the riots too.. I would have quite happily sat inside the shop with a load of mates, waited for them to come at the shop and opened up.. I would much rather pay 20 lads to look after my place than let it get robbed, burnt etc and have to rebuild it all again..
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Lets not turn this into a everyone hates Muslim's thread please :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
No, best not to, since this is a muslim country, where the indiginous are f**ked over and the rest are given the right to take over.
What a load of bollucks, did you watch questiontime when they had the BMP leader on there.. Britains indiginous as you deem them are no longer the "supreme white" that people seem to think we are. Britain is a multi-cultural society and has been from long before the second world war. These are two cases from two different courts with two judges having differing opinions. You do not know whether the guy who sprayed on the Mosque was a repeat offender. You don't know whether he was given caution after caution and still continued in this manner.
Yet again, a spin has been put on a headline to make it sound worse than it is.. As bad as "the kids cage fighting" that was all over the papers when they weren't striking and it was an exhibition display.. Pisses me right off..
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Very valid point. There does seem to be a cultural decide in this country with regard to the fear of upsetting the supposed minority, however the press sometimes pluck stories out of thin air! It's not just with this sort of thing though, they do it with everything. :angry:
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peopleneed to start having their own opinions instead of what is posted on the front page of the sun
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Agh, don't even get me started on this subject...
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peopleneed to start having their own opinions instead of what is posted on the front page of the sun
The Sun can hardly be taken seriously.
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freedom of speech, i mean in the public eye, ie, in a newspaper, on radio, or even on a message forum :rolleyes:
people seem to take offence to the slightest hint of a racist comment, even when it wasnt meant in that way, the comment gets turned round to make out that is an attack
yet its ok for other cultures to come here and state racist comments in the press and they get away with it? would we be allowed to build a church in an islamic country? would we be allowed to open up an 'english only' childrens school? or have english only driving tuition schools?
you have to think if things are fair! :undecided:
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Its up to individuals to stand up for themselves as they live their lives, can't say I notice much of a problem going about my life on a day to day basis. I think far too many people pay too much attention to the scaremongering that goes on in the media, (particularly the daily mail) .
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i learnt when i lived in a small seaside town for a few years, is that people who live in small towns, villages, in the middle of no where decent, dont see the true racial clash and immigrational damage on our big cities like london, birmingham and manchester :smiley:
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i learnt when i lived in a small seaside town for a few years, is that people who live in small towns, villages, in the middle of no where decent, dont see the true racial clash and immigrational damage on our big cities like london, birmingham and manchester :smiley:
:rolleyes: :smiley:
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I like the fact since David Cameron said people can protect their homes with reasonable force, the 3 burglars who all been killed have been in Manchester..makes me proud :D
Good on them I say, would do the same, fair play to the courts too..all 3 people , 2 homeowners and a shop worker, all let off.
It's not because of Cameron. It has always been the law, as long as your actions are proportionate, legal, accountable and necessary then you are within the confines of the law.
For example, the first burglar that Tony Martin shot, he was hardly investigated about, whereas the second one he shot in the back as he was running off. Deemed as not necessary so he was sent to prison because of it.
The 3 people were not 'let off,' they were innocent.
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Self defence is a very grey area. Recent cases have helped people to see where they stand.
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Self defence is a very grey area. Recent cases have helped people to see where they stand.
Exactly, they are highlighting this in order to educate people about where they stand.
So many people just think that if you hit a burglar then you will get prosecuted.
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In may 2010 Tohseef Shah spray painted a british was memorial with "islam will dominate osama is coming" he was fined £50 and walked free from court. In november 2010 emdadur choudary burned a poppy during the two minutes silence he was to given a fine, £500 and walked free from court. Today to men have been sentanced to 12 months in prison for spray painting a poppy on a mosque. DISGRACE!
f**kcing disgrace
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Just curious. Are people saying that it's a disgrace that the British men got 12 months, or that the Muslims got a milder sentence?
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Just curious. Are people saying that it's a disgrace that the British men got 12 months, or that the Muslims got a milder sentence?
Hopefully the fact that the Muslims got a milder sentace, the person(s) defacing a mosque got everything they deserve, unfortunately our justice/legal system is to spineless to punish the Muslims suitably through fear of the label of being racist.