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General => The garage => Topic started by: MaXXeH on 04 October 2011, 10:42
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As some of you know, i had some massive problems with my "custom" remap :rolleyes: from AMD, the car would never run right! So cut the story short I got a full refund from AMD, and they left the map on the car :laugh:.
So now r-tech are going to give my car a proper custom remap :evil: ( looking forward to the results)
I dropped my car there yesterday morning and nick was delighted to see how clean my car was :grin:
Engine mods
BWA engine: S3 injecters, K04 turbo , Evoms intake, THS IC, HPFP, Neuspeed K04 Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge Kit and Neuspeed Hi-Flow Intercooler Pipe.
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As some of you know, i had some massive problems with my "custom" remap :rolleyes: from AMD, the car would never run right! So cut the story short I got a full refund from AMD, and they left the map on the car :laugh:.
So now r-tech are going to give my car a proper custom remap :evil: ( looking forward to the results)
I dropped my car there yesterday morning and nick was delighted to see how clean my car was :grin:
Engine mods
BWA engine: S3 injecters, K04 turbo , Evoms intake, THS IC, HPFP, Neuspeed K04 Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge Kit and Neuspeed Hi-Flow Intercooler Pipe.
Needs a bloody wash!!
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As some of you know, i had some massive problems with my "custom" remap :rolleyes: from AMD, the car would never run right! So cut the story short I got a full refund from AMD, and they left the map on the car :laugh:.
So now r-tech are going to give my car a proper custom remap :evil: ( looking forward to the results)
I dropped my car there yesterday morning and nick was delighted to see how clean my car was :grin:
Engine mods
BWA engine: S3 injecters, K04 turbo , Evoms intake, THS IC, HPFP, Neuspeed K04 Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge Kit and Neuspeed Hi-Flow Intercooler Pipe.
Finally you talk sense mate :laugh: :laugh:
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Aiming for higher than this?
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He's cheating though as he's got the KO4 fitted
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his is already more than that with amd's map that was shocking :evil:
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his is already more than that with amd's map that was shocking :evil:
a real 340BHP would be nice :evil:
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Aiming for higher than this?
What spec is this mk5?
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All I found out was
Uprated coilpacks :undecided: certainly weren't standard......
HPFP
Forge Actuator bolted to the standard turbo (I'd assume some other tweaks too)
Forge DV
Forge Twintake
Forge Intercooler
REVO Stage 2+ map and REVO DSG software
Turbo back exhaust
Possibly one or two other bits :undecided:
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All I found out was
Uprated coilpacks :undecided: certainly weren't standard......
HPFP
Forge Actuator bolted to the standard turbo (I'd assume some other tweaks too)
Forge DV
Forge Twintake
Forge Intercooler
REVO Stage 2+ map and REVO DSG software
Turbo back exhaust
Possibly one or two other bits :undecided:
Running k04 ?
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All I found out was
Uprated coilpacks :undecided: certainly weren't standard......
HPFP
Forge Actuator bolted to the standard turbo (I'd assume some other tweaks too)
Forge DV
Forge Twintake
Forge Intercooler
REVO Stage 2+ map and REVO DSG software
Turbo back exhaust
Possibly one or two other bits :undecided:
Running k04 ?
Not according to the owner :undecided: And it certainly didn't look any different under the bonnet
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IMO that make it one of the highest recorded power runs from a TFSI with k03?, I most I have seen was 282bhp with HPFP, Thats Awesome power it pulls and pulls. I wonder If I could get a TFSI turbo to fit my AUM head? :smug:
@MaXXeh
My aim for tomorrow is to get full linear control of the fuel rail pressure and boost at around 280bhp, once the engine, ecu and I am happy I will start to wind the power up to 340bhp over the next 2-3 days. Tuning this combintaion for peak power is every easy, its the part throttle and low end mapping which is a pain to get right. The aim wont be peak number just a broad power curve with lots of area under it.
The mk5 gti I tuned last week with full ko4s spec and engine made 340 bhp far to easy and had to be tamed closer to 315-320bhp as it was running happy shopper LingLong tyres...pmsl and still had a cat in play.
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Update.
Boost pipe fail..lol
Got fuel and rail pressure mapping about right, which seems to have stopped the bad missfire which the stock and old map had across the whole band. Started to rescale then n75 mapping to allow the k04 to work the the 2.5bar maps sensor, without this the boost will become uncontrolled and climb at the top end of the rpm(which was the cause of the limp mode on the last mapping) got the car running 270lbft 320bhp @1.2bar on a basic custom map which is seeing the boost follow the requested line. The peak load request is sitting at 184% which for some reason I cannot get any higher request at the moment, I think there is a map or axis in your software which is capping the load, I have found one of the axis on one of the torque maps is set t0 180% So I have rasied it and need to test and log in the morning. A part from the its fast as feck and very smooth.
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Update.
Boost pipe fail..lol
Got fuel and rail pressure mapping about right, which seems to have stopped the bad missfire which the stock and old map had across the whole band. Started to rescale then n75 mapping to allow the k04 to work the the 2.5bar maps sensor, without this the boost will become uncontrolled and climb at the top end of the rpm(which was the cause of the limp mode on the last mapping) got the car running 270lbft 320bhp @1.2bar on a basic custom map which is seeing the boost follow the requested line. The peak load request is sitting at 184% which for some reason I cannot get any higher request at the moment, I think there is a map or axis in your software which is capping the load, I have found one of the axis on one of the torque maps is set t0 180% So I have rasied it and need to test and log in the morning. A part from the its fast as feck and very smooth.
i thought that boost pipe would fail at one point, bloody dum that connection.
Happy to hear it is going well mate :smiley:. I do have the other map sensor if it makes anything easier. I was thinking can we have it spiting flames and popping :rolleyes: I like righting a few granny’s off lol.
You can have the car for as long as needed i am having fun killing the mk4 (i forgot how bad they are standard)
Ps, did u see if them air filters made any difference?
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Update.
Boost pipe fail..lol
Got fuel and rail pressure mapping about right, which seems to have stopped the bad missfire which the stock and old map had across the whole band. Started to rescale then n75 mapping to allow the k04 to work the the 2.5bar maps sensor, without this the boost will become uncontrolled and climb at the top end of the rpm(which was the cause of the limp mode on the last mapping) got the car running 270lbft 320bhp @1.2bar on a basic custom map which is seeing the boost follow the requested line. The peak load request is sitting at 184% which for some reason I cannot get any higher request at the moment, I think there is a map or axis in your software which is capping the load, I have found one of the axis on one of the torque maps is set t0 180% So I have rasied it and need to test and log in the morning. A part from the its fast as feck and very smooth.
I thought that boost pipe would fail at one point, bloody dum that connection.
Happy to hear it is going well mate :smiley:. I do have the other map sensor if it makes anything easier. I was thinking can we have it spiting flames and popping :rolleyes: I like righting a few granny’s off lol.
You can have the car for as long as needed i am having fun killing the mk4 (i forgot how bad they are standard)
Ps, did u see if them air filters made any difference?
That boost pipe was bad by design, I have re-engineered the alloy joiner so the OE clip fits in flush and cannot come out.
I dont think there is a way to get pops and bangs on the ME9 ecu as the fuel strategy is nothing like the ME7 setup, when tuning for power we use the homogenous fuel mapping to make power at a richer rate, but the combustion is that good its hard to dump a little fuel. There are fuel realted maps for shift points which could be use but might only work with DSG? If I get the back log of jobs out I will take a look for you, What number cell rate sports cat are you using
The 2.5bar maps sensor will be fine, (it would be a total pain to setup in mapping, maybe only way to do it would be use an ed30 ecu?)
I am not going to run a spike of boost I will aim for clip 21psi and hold just under it to get around 300lbft over most of the torque band, where a stage2 map for HPFP on a oe k04 car would peak 23-24psi.
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cheers for fixxing that alloy connecter, i was going to give it the chop if it blew. If you cant get it poping not to worry just thought it would be a nice extra, it roars when you floor it anyway :smug: I think it is a 100cell sports cat.
I will see how i get on with this power and if i get bored i will rebuild the engine and put a gt28rs(or better) on the old girl and find an edtion 30 ecu.
The car also has a polar fsi+ unit so if you can work out how to change the menus on the dash, it will give u a sh!t load of info.
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cheers for fixxing that alloy connecter, i was going to give it the chop if it blew. If you cant get it poping not to worry just thought it would be a nice extra, it roars when you floor it anyway :smug: I think it is a 100cell sports cat.
I will see how i get on with this power and if i get bored i will rebuild the engine and put a gt28rs(or better) on the old girl and find an edtion 30 ecu.
The car also has a polar fsi+ unit so if you can work out how to change the menus on the dash, it will give u a sh!t load of info.
keeping within the 2.5bar map sensor range I have managed to get 330bhp 308lbft so far.. :cool: Just fine tuning the KRKATE map which I was on about and looking for the other day which in theory should be 13% less for the S3 injectors, fuel trims with out this changed was -16%, now down to -2%.
Its about done dude.... and its fast as feck to 7227rpm :smug: I will be seeing you next week.
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cheers for fixxing that alloy connecter, i was going to give it the chop if it blew. If you cant get it poping not to worry just thought it would be a nice extra, it roars when you floor it anyway :smug: I think it is a 100cell sports cat.
I will see how i get on with this power and if i get bored i will rebuild the engine and put a gt28rs(or better) on the old girl and find an edtion 30 ecu.
The car also has a polar fsi+ unit so if you can work out how to change the menus on the dash, it will give u a sh!t load of info.
keeping within the 2.5bar map sensor range I have managed to get 330bhp 308lbft so far.. :cool: Just fine tuning the KRKATE map which I was on about and looking for the other day which in theory should be 13% less for the S3 injectors, fuel trims with out this changed was -16%, now down to -2%.
Its about done dude.... and its fast as feck to 7227rpm :smug: I will be seeing you next week.
haha like it mate, sounds good :laugh: she must go like a bat out of hel :evil:
I will get that clutch and lsd installed when i get her back.
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upload a graph when u got a spare min :smug:
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Oooops!!
Which ones yours got them mixed up on my drive way..? :grin:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2018.jpg)
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lol, mine is the fastest one :grin:
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lol, mine is the fastest one :grin:
Far too wet up here to test the power out...... but managed to sort it out........... The Dirty one.. :grin:
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lol, mine is the fastest one :grin:
Far too wet up here to test the power out...... but managed to sort it out........... The Dirty one.. :grin:
now now, she likes being dirty :grin: i thought u gave me a extra set of doors also :P
ps do i have a clutch left? i know it was slipping befor :evil:
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nick i was talking about this
http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/SNOW_STAGE_2_2_0T_FSI_BOOST_COOLER-895-278.html
I will be trashing the hel out of this car so every little helps lol
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no point?
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Logs of my drive home tonight :rolleyes:
270.53gs /.8 = 338.bhp @ 19psi @ 7000rpm -7.5CF/-6CF :cool:
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Logs of my drive home tonight :rolleyes:
270.53gs /.8 = 338.bhp @ 19psi @ 7000rpm -7.5CF/-6CF :cool:
love it :evil: water meth should be with me on the 20th ( not going to run it from my washer bottle though :sick:)
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Just been out to do a logs.. :rolleyes:. nice cold damp air and its off its nelly and the timing CF went down to -3/-4cf
Idle fuel trim -0.5% (was -17%)
fuel long term trim is now at -2.3% not bad seeing it was -25% before..lol
Just clippig the max off the map sensor at 2580mb which I aint happy with at the moment another 6% of the n75dc in that window is going to get it to 2500 so its in range.
finish off tomorrow am on the dyno just putting my findings of the logs from today in to map tweaks and thenfinal power runs, then you can collect when your ready m8..
I just want to see the grin on your face
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that map sensor is a pain sometimes i wish i just dumped the s3 engine in (+ ecu could of had it for 1k) :rolleyes:
The water meth should keep it down to -3/-4 (or less)when it is warm.
I will probably pick it up thursday, got a track day on sat :evil:
Bet it bloody rains when i pick it up lol
my face will be ( :smiley: :cool: :grin: :evil: :smug:) lol
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i could not help my self today :rolleyes:
i orderd
(http://www.bshspeedshop.com/bshstore/product_images/t/189/turbo_2__78590_std.jpg)
(http://www.thsperformance.co.uk/pub/files/Products/Conrods/.thumbnails/1239366841_txt-hbeam4_w225_h225.png)
I wont install it all till next year :lipsrsealed: I told the other half (server install) it will get lost if it do it now :wink:
Then will have some fun at the pod
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Can I have some money off of that money tree you got!! :laugh:
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i got loads of work at the mo :smiley: been rather lucky thank god.
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how much power can that turbo provide ??
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how much power can that turbo provide ??
about 500bhp
just on the way to rtech i bloody hate trains!!
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What size is that bad boy and wat car it going on the mk5 wish I had a job like u lol
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What size is that bad boy and wat car it going on the mk5 wish I had a job like u lol
it is a gt3076r i won't put it on till next year but yea i will put it on the mk5.
Just work for your self mate working for others just makes them rich unless you got a really god job lol
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Lucky mate lol wish I could but not qualified in anytging not even English lol
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Can I have some money off of that money tree you got!! :laugh:
We need to stop tuning cars dude, it seems clocking PCs its the way forward.. :grin:
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Well all finished now, remapped and full courtesy valet.. :grin Sad to let this one go back to its owner. :cry:
A bit of a task this Mk5 GTi with S3 turbo/injectors and HPFP.
The hard part was getting the fuel constant via the air flow correct so the fuel trims are within reason,and the injectors not dumping fuel as the turbo is spooling. Step1 re-scale injectors on a stock map and set the rail pressure maps to work with the HPFP, this took around days of trial and error testing and logging. Next step was to tame the boost and make sure I had full control, the first thing I noticed with running the k04 on the k03 mapping was that under load at higher rpms the boost would creep off the scale, I would ask for around 2250mb, the ecu would ask for the correct load and boost but becuase of the k03 n75 mapping being on a lower scale the n75 realted maps would allow too much duty cycle. So it was another 2 days getting the boost correct and with in maps sensor range and having the n75 act for the k04, it got the the point that the actual boost was running 200mb below the requested line... at this point I had safe control so time to wind the n75 up in increments to give a little spool up over boost which just clipped the 2580mb map sensor and fall back to the requested boost 2400-2300mb. Next task was timing nice and easy to get a base point as the S3 timing maps and scales fitted in place nice.. :wink: now just a matter of keep adding the timing in until the ecu started to pull back on the correction of the car stopped making any more power.
I have really enjoyed doing this job as I was taking a lot on doing it, but knew with enough time I could get it bang on. I had no aim of chasing peak numbers, just a car that pulled and pulled like a bitach to the red line.
The final result was 335bhp 310lbft @270.25gs..... £80 woth of fuel used on the dyno and road. :grin:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/GRAPH-2.jpg)
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Well what can I say? Nick pulled off the challenge! The car is f**king fantastic! :cool:
First impressions! One very clean car thanks to a full valet, that is what I call customer satisfaction! :smiley:
Nick collected me from the train station and gave me a little blast down the road and she pulled like a train! :evil: Was rather impressed but could not wait to have a go myself!! I jumped in and took it for a blast! Fook me it pulls all the way to 7000RPM and holds the power all the way! I could not believe this was my car! :shocked:
On the way home I shocked a fair few cars and it was cracking to see their faces!!
Got home and took the Old Man out for a spin, and he said “bloody hell this is stupid, take me home†:grin:
Thanks again Nick!! 5 stars!! :cool:
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Well what can I say? Nick pulled off the challenge! The car is f**king fantastic! :cool:
First impressions! One very clean car thanks to a full valet, that is what I call customer satisfaction! :smiley:
Nick collected me from the train station and gave me a little blast down the road and she pulled like a train! :evil: Was rather impressed but could not wait to have a go myself!! I jumped in and took it for a blast! Fook me it pulls all the way to 7000RPM and holds the power all the way! I could not believe this was my car! :shocked:
On the way home I shocked a fair few cars and it was cracking to see their faces!!
Got home and took the Old Man out for a spin, and he said “bloody hell this is stupid, take me home†:grin:
Thanks again Nick!! 5 stars!! :cool:
Thanks for the feedback. :smiley:
The best part is I enjoyed doing it..!
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Let me know how your k03s AGU gets on with that map, that red mk3 1.8T k03s is mental with the LSD and some silly ratio gear box.
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Well what can I say? Nick pulled off the challenge! The car is f**king fantastic! :cool:
First impressions! One very clean car thanks to a full valet, that is what I call customer satisfaction! :smiley:
Nick collected me from the train station and gave me a little blast down the road and she pulled like a train! :evil: Was rather impressed but could not wait to have a go myself!! I jumped in and took it for a blast! Fook me it pulls all the way to 7000RPM and holds the power all the way! I could not believe this was my car! :shocked:
On the way home I shocked a fair few cars and it was cracking to see their faces!!
Got home and took the Old Man out for a spin, and he said “bloody hell this is stupid, take me home†:grin:
Thanks again Nick!! 5 stars!! :cool:
Haha that made me laugh.
Car sounds fantastic :)
Dread to think of my fuel bill to date.. I'd have bought shares in Shell had I known what was ahead :laugh:
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Well next time i come up i will have the water meth installed and the LSD so we can see if we can blow it up lol :evil:
shame that mk3 looked like it had been chucked together just needed a few more £££ spent lol
The AGU map is good also, Just feels dog slow to mine! my bro loves it.
The better half just took the the car out and she said "Cant wait to take this food shopping tomoz" lost the car all ready :rolleyes: ( will d/c the maf befor she goes out :grin:)
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how is the go kart?
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Well next time i come up i will have the water meth installed and the LSD so we can see if we can blow it up lol :evil:
shame that mk3 looked like it had been chucked together just needed a few more £££ spent lol
The AGU map is good also, Just feels dog slow to mine! my bro loves it.
The better half just took the the car out and she said "Cant wait to take this food shopping tomoz" lost the car all ready :rolleyes: ( will d/c the maf befor she goes out :grin:)
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how is the go kart?
With the maf unplugged it sits in generic mode of around 346gs then reverts to using other sensors, in most cases having the maf unplugged on an me7 / me9 ecu the car will make a little more power.. :wink: The 3pm job today a stage1 custom mk5 TFSI made another 20lbft 12bhp with the maf unplugged, albeit the maf was over reading and causing fuel trims of around -12%. I have seen in the past a good maf unplugged will make a little power gains.
Just dont let her drive it, make her take the bus... :grin:
My new kart is the >>>> (http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/muttsnuts.jpg)
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well nick has the car back :D
He is going to do my water meth install :evil: bang goes the engine :lipsrsealed:
Like i said to you mate, it dont matter :laugh: