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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Dolly on 29 September 2011, 22:17
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this might be the right or wrong area for this, who knows or cares...
i want to build my own pc im pretty happy with having a go, but i dont know what all the numbers mean lol. it will be for a mix of work, pornthe net, and gaming
ive seen a case with a 700w psu on offer and a mobo with what i think looks ok. looks like ontop of this ill need around 4/8gb ram for starters, id prefer a medium sized ssd and then ill need an awesome graphics card?
im such a noob when it comes to all this. :rolleyes:
http://www.ebuyer.com/177749-cm-storm-scout-coolermaster-silent-pro-700w-modular-psu-special-offer-sgc-2000-kkwp1-gp
http://www.ebuyer.com/276562-gigabyte-ga-z68ap-d3-z68-socket-1155-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-ga-z68ap-d3
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processor probably i5, think its worth it over the i3? being quad core and all that, but again im no expert.
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http://www.ebuyer.com/252537-intel-core-i5-2300-2-8ghz-socket-1155-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80623i52300
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I have This
(http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr182/the_flying_elvi/computershoppermay2010.jpg)
Computer shopper issue from May 2010 on how to build a PC. All the components reviewed/priced etc.
I can post it to you if you want?
Jonathan.
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What is your budget?
Ebuyer sometimes do Motherboard/CPU/Ram bundles which help you decide what you want.
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Have a look here http://www.dinopc.com/ (http://www.dinopc.com/)
You can buy already build PC's at a good price. I've got the Gallant AMD 560 which is the starter of the gaming PC's, but I selected a few upgrade options and I can play all the latest games on the highest settings.
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if i can get the mobo, case/psu, processor, ram, and graphics card for less than £500 would be good, £400 would be better, i dont mind buying a "cheaper" graphics card now, as long as say next year i can upgrade, so i dont spunk all my money in one go lol
http://www.ebuyer.com/255421-gigabyte-gt-440-oc-1gb-ddr3-dvi-vga-hdmi-out-pci-e-graphics-gv-n440d3-1gi
thats a cheaper graphics card, not sure it will run bf3 but i can stick with the xbox for now lol
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found this lot for around 450
http://orders.ebuyer.com/customer/shopping/index.html?action=c2hvd2NhcnQ%3D
seems close to the higher spec one on that dinopc for probably the cost of windows7 so i guess theres not much in it. (except dino one psu isnt as good)
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I highly rate DinoPC. I had a faulty graphics card and I sent it back under warranty and they replaced it, but alongside that the pc came with 4gb of 1333mhz ram and I asked if I sent back the ram and paid the difference would they send back with the new graphics card 4gb of 1600mhz and they were really helpful and friendly. Their build quality is awesome as well, the cables come all braided and very neatly arranged (note that the blue and red cable not in the braid is something I added for an extra case fan).
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/DSC02945.jpg)
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this might be the right or wrong area for this, who knows or cares...
i want to build my own pc im pretty happy with having a go, but i dont know what all the numbers mean lol. it will be for a mix of work, pornthe net, and gaming
ive seen a case with a 700w psu on offer and a mobo with what i think looks ok. looks like ontop of this ill need around 4/8gb ram for starters, id prefer a medium sized ssd and then ill need an awesome graphics card?
im such a noob when it comes to all this. :rolleyes:
http://www.ebuyer.com/177749-cm-storm-scout-coolermaster-silent-pro-700w-modular-psu-special-offer-sgc-2000-kkwp1-gp
http://www.ebuyer.com/276562-gigabyte-ga-z68ap-d3-z68-socket-1155-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-ga-z68ap-d3
If you give me your budget I can sort you out a decent part list.
Have you got a PC at the moment with any re-usable parts? Do you need a monitor, keyboard and mouse too?
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if i can get it for around £500 ill be happy, think im going to build it over a few months to spread the costs.
i aint got nout, i gave my pc to my sister i use a laptop.
to begin with ill be hooked up to my tv, not ideal i know.
(ill probably go towards £600 if i can get a small SSD)
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stumbled across this post
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18323289
seems about what i need, and close to what i was eyeing up anyway.
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I recently built a desktop which ended up costing ~€750 in the end. That figure includes a separate SSD, a monitor, speakers, new headset and a gaming mouse. The core components came in closer to €600 which is £520. Evoss posted a great list of components that comes in under £600:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=202538.msg1884342#msg1884342
I ended up getting a different graphics card and one or two other things on offer to keep to my budget but the rest is nearly identical. The rest I bought over the course of a month by watching daily deals on some Irish sites and waiting for things to come up on offer.
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Best place by a mile is scan.co.uk.
Theyeven do bundels that you then build.
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I'm building a new i7 system :cool:
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£500 to £600 will get you a fairly decent PC, it won't get you an awesome one though. Do you need Windows 7 including, or will you be "obtaining" your own copy from elsewhere?
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go 64 bit so that you can use 4gb + of ram.
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Something like this would be good.
The graphics card is very good and will keep you playing games for a fair while. The processor is also equally as good, best value for money CPU out there. Motherboard isn'y my first choice, but you'd be best off getting a board that uses the Z68 chipset these days. Case is also rather budget, but got good reviews.
Ideally you'd be better off spending a little more cash, then you can get a better motherboard and case. You also need a copy of Windows 7, plus whatever mouse/keyboard you want.
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with FREE Batman: Arkham City PC game** (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-114-MS") £174.98
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-368-IN") £161.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68A-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-346-GI") £72.98
1 x OCZ ZS Series 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-OC") £47.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (WD10EARX) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-375-WD") £44.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT51264BA160A) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-132-CR") £39.98
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Case - Black (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-002-XG") £29.99
1 x Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1155/ 1156 / 1366) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-AR") £19.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-LG") £16.99
2 x Coolermaster 120mm Fan - Black (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-010-CM") £5.00
Total : £614.88 (includes shipping : FREE).
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Something like this would be good.
The graphics card is very good and will keep you playing games for a fair while. The processor is also equally as good, best value for money CPU out there. Motherboard isn'y my first choice, but you'd be best off getting a board that uses the Z68 chipset these days. Case is also rather budget, but got good reviews.
Ideally you'd be better off spending a little more cash, then you can get a better motherboard and case. You also need a copy of Windows 7, plus whatever mouse/keyboard you want.
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Supplied with FREE Batman: Arkham City PC game** (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-114-MS") £174.98
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-368-IN") £161.99
1 x Gigabyte Z68A-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-346-GI") £72.98
1 x OCZ ZS Series 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-OC") £47.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (WD10EARX) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-375-WD") £44.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT51264BA160A) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-132-CR") £39.98
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Case - Black (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-002-XG") £29.99
1 x Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler (Socket 939 / AM2 / AM3 / 775 / 1155/ 1156 / 1366) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-AR") £19.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-LG") £16.99
2 x Coolermaster 120mm Fan - Black (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-010-CM") £5.00
Total : £614.88 (includes shipping : FREE).
(http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/GX-114-MS_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-114-MS") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/CP-368-IN_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-368-IN") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/MB-346-GI_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-346-GI") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/CA-055-OC_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-OC") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/HD-375-WD_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-375-WD") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/MY-132-CR_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-132-CR") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/CA-002-XG_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-002-XG") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/HS-035-AR_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-AR") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/CD-099-LG_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-099-LG") (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pimg/FG-010-CM_60.jpg) (http://"http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-010-CM")
Not bad graphics.
Maybe consider the i7 if affordable and a faster hard drive, maybe two in RAID 0.
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I'd rather have one SSD over a RAID 0 configuration. If it's a modest budget then no point going for an i7, they're poor value for money compared to the i5-2500k.
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I'd rather have one SSD over a RAID 0 configuration. If it's a modest budget then no point going for an i7, they're poor value for money compared to the i5-2500k.
SSD reliability isn't very good at the money. Poor value for money too with sizes being so small. With that in mind I'd rather two fast RAID 0 drives.
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I'd rather have one SSD over a RAID 0 configuration. If it's a modest budget then no point going for an i7, they're poor value for money compared to the i5-2500k.
SSD reliability isn't very good at the money. Poor value for money too with sizes being so small. With that in mind I'd rather two fast RAID 0 drives.
Until one of them breaks. 100% of my RAID configs in the past have failed due to one of the drives dying. Use a 60GB SSD now, only cost £60 so I consider it good value for money considering the speed it provides.
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I'd rather have one SSD over a RAID 0 configuration. If it's a modest budget then no point going for an i7, they're poor value for money compared to the i5-2500k.
SSD reliability isn't very good at the money. Poor value for money too with sizes being so small. With that in mind I'd rather two fast RAID 0 drives.
Until one of them breaks. 100% of my RAID configs in the past have failed due to one of the drives dying. Use a 60GB SSD now, only cost £60 so I consider it good value for money considering the speed it provides.
It's been a hell of a long time since I've seen HD failire.
Two fast drives in RAID 0 are even better value for money as I can have speed across an entire 2TB, rather than 60gb which is very poor storage these days.
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I'd rather have one SSD over a RAID 0 configuration. If it's a modest budget then no point going for an i7, they're poor value for money compared to the i5-2500k.
SSD reliability isn't very good at the money. Poor value for money too with sizes being so small. With that in mind I'd rather two fast RAID 0 drives.
Until one of them breaks. 100% of my RAID configs in the past have failed due to one of the drives dying. Use a 60GB SSD now, only cost £60 so I consider it good value for money considering the speed it provides.
It's been a hell of a long time since I've seen HD failire.
Two fast drives in RAID 0 are even better value for money as I can have speed across an entire 2TB, rather than 60gb which is very poor storage these days.
personally I wouldn't store anything important on either; I have my OS / Apps (and selected games) on a SSD and my remaining steam games + other games on a RAID 0, my SSD gets backup up everynight and my photos and music are stored on a RAID 1 array.
At the moment magnetic drives are dirt cheap so RAID 0 and RAID 1 are very accessible options, granted you can get close to SSD transfer speeds for a similar cost, but the random access times is rubbish, this is where you notice the main benefit of the SSD
If you've got the cash get an SSD for windows / applications (you'll need around 60GB for Win7 and apps), if you don't then get a faster drive like the blue of caviar black, the green's are great drives but should only really be used as a storage drive.
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I would use SSD eg64 gb for the OS, then have RAID 0 for everything else :)
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personally i have 6 drives as follows. that way if you're downloading whilst listening to music whilst photoshopping for example, if it was 1 drive then it would have to be in 3 places at once to access data and it will die quicker.
1tb for movies
1tb for pictures/documents
500gb for music. soon to be 2tb as i transfer all my music to lossless.
500gb for downloads
oh and 2 ocz agility 3 60gb ssd's in raid as a boot drive for os and apps :wink:
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At the moment magnetic drives are dirt cheap so RAID 0 and RAID 1 are very accessible options, granted you can get close to SSD transfer speeds for a similar cost, but the random access times is rubbish, this is where you notice the main benefit of the SSD
The random access times aren't rubbish at all. Twice the speed than standard, half the speed of SSD.
OS doesn't take long at all to run, so it's not worth running that on SSD. The only things that would benefit properly would be intensive read and write programs that suffer frame rate issues, such as the people who run flight simulators and the like, graphics programs that demand from everywhere, but even they can be greater than 60gb.
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It's well worth putting the OS onto an SSD, most important thing to put onto it. It's the piece of software that you use the most. Plus to be honest, I absolutely hate waiting for Windows to boot, so the quicker the better! I love being able to click on what I want and it opens instantly without having to wait for things to load.
Absolutely no way I'd go back from using an SSD as my primary drive now.
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It's well worth putting the OS onto an SSD, most important thing to put onto it. It's the piece of software that you use the most. Plus to be honest, I absolutely hate waiting for Windows to boot, so the quicker the better! I love being able to click on what I want and it opens instantly without having to wait for things to load.
Absolutely no way I'd go back from using an SSD as my primary drive now.
Hate waiting for windows to load? What have you done to your windows? Takes seconds to load.
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You've got to lol, the OP only wants advice on building his own PC :grin:
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You've got to lol, the OP only wants advice on building his own PC :grin:
Yes, and he can use our posts as he wishes.
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Boom.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-memoright,1926-12.html
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Boom.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-memoright,1926-12.html
Boom what?
It says a slow throughput and notes the poor value for money.
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... and that they're the fastest drive you can use when loading data on your PC. Whilst I grant you the MB/£ is awful, if you have £60 spare then there's nothing better you can buy for popping Windows and a few games on. Instead of looking as an SSD as poor value for money, it's better to see them as great value for money upgrades to speed up computer performance.
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And that's all I would ever use one for, an data hungry application or game. Most other things including windows don't really benefit from it so much, sure they'll load quicker, but once loaded its not doing much else.
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lol, ive already decided i want SSD ive seen the way it boots windows7... im well expecting to blow the budget out the water now lol. got a case and PSU being delivered tomorrow.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-ZA&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=736
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-200-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103
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lol, ive already decided i want SSD ive seen the way it boots windows7... im well expecting to blow the budget out the water now lol. got a case and PSU being delivered tomorrow.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-ZA&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=736
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-200-CM&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1103
My budget is being blown out the water too. My build is costing upwards of £1,500 now.
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can anyone tell me any reason why i shouldnt get this
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-461-AS
:smiley:
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can anyone tell me any reason why i shouldnt get this
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-461-AS
:smiley:
because it's for AMD chips, you could get a sandybridge board and chip for the same money
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yeah i know its amd, someone at work suggested it for the forthcoming bulldozer, if not ill use something like this
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-277-AM&tool=3
the more im getting into it the more i think it will be geared for gaming, i wouldnt mind it being future proof for a year or 2 either,
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yeah i know its amd, someone at work suggested it for the forthcoming bulldozer, if not ill use something like this
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-277-AM&tool=3
the more im getting into it the more i think it will be geared for gaming, i wouldnt mind it being future proof for a year or 2 either,
you're paying a massive premium for the bulldozer support before the chips are even out, if they turn out to be good then you're laughing as you'll have the option to slap in a bulldozer chip, if it doesn't then you're stuck with a mobo/chip combo that cost as much if not more than an i5 2500K which is faster and overclocks better than the AMD
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Ordered:
Item: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
Item: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156, 1155, 1366, AM2, AM3 Heatpipe CPU Cooler
Item: Asus P8Z68-V Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
im all new to this so ill take some pics of when its going together and probably ask for help lol.
so far spent £460 and i dont even have RAM, Graphics card, SSD/HDD lol... so much for the budget, thank the lord for credit cards :grin:
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I'll build one for you for a price! :evil:
It's easy mate. If you need any help, drop me a PM.
SCAN are good for PC parts.
Also, if you tell me your budget and what sort of performance you're after I'll spec a PC up for you.
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mines coming together, and considering ive never done this before im well happy it turns on lol.
Asus P8 Z68 - V
Intel i5 2500k 3.3ghz
8gb Corsair vengence DDR3 1600mhz (2x4gb)
OCZ agility 3, 120gb SSD
Cooler master 650w 80+
Main things to do are windows 7 and a graphics card for BF3
Currently running on Linux11 mint 64bit, and its rapid, cannot believe the boot time.
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/Dollycupra/Screenshot-1.png)