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Title: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2011, 12:44
Do any of you do the warm start fix in your 2.0 tdi maps ? Apparently all it is is changing the warm start to a cold start programme in the ecu ?

I ask this as my car is embarrassing when starting from warm it takes about 3-4 seconds if cranking and turns out it's a common fault !

Thanks
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: RTechUK on 25 September 2011, 15:56
Do any of you do the warm start fix in your 2.0 tdi maps ? Apparently all it is is changing the warm start to a cold start programme in the ecu ?

I ask this as my car is embarrassing when starting from warm it takes about 3-4 seconds if cranking and turns out it's a common fault !

Thanks

I know how to fix it on the 1.9Tdi EDC15 ecu, but never looked at doing a 2.0TDI map. There maybe a dealer sw upgrade revision to fix it, but if your on the the latest sw code then I will try and find the fuel correction maps for the warm start and patch it to your stock map to see it it cures it.
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2011, 17:17
well from what ive read if you have a VW they have an update to cure it but not if you drive an audi  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: RTechUK on 25 September 2011, 17:37
well from what ive read if you have a VW they have an update to cure it but not if you drive an audi  :undecided:

I need a copy of your stock map or your engine controller bosch numbers taking from VCDS.  I will look into it for you, its just going to a fuel IQ or Nm map based on  cranking rpm and temp but where in the map.
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: irmscher on 25 September 2011, 22:54
Do any of you do the warm start fix in your 2.0 tdi maps ? Apparently all it is is changing the warm start to a cold start programme in the ecu ?

I ask this as my car is embarrassing when starting from warm it takes about 3-4 seconds if cranking and turns out it's a common fault !

Thanks

Yes we can do this mate.
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2011, 23:18
Do any of you do the warm start fix in your 2.0 tdi maps ? Apparently all it is is changing the warm start to a cold start programme in the ecu ?

I ask this as my car is embarrassing when starting from warm it takes about 3-4 seconds if cranking and turns out it's a common fault !

Thanks

Yes we can do this mate.

prices ??
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2011, 23:19
well from what ive read if you have a VW they have an update to cure it but not if you drive an audi  :undecided:

I need a copy of your stock map or your engine controller bosch numbers taking from VCDS.  I will look into it for you, its just going to a fuel IQ or Nm map based on  cranking rpm and temp but where in the map.

yer its something to do with cranking and it should be cranking 280rpm+ when warm to start the engine easily or something i dont know lol
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: irmscher on 25 September 2011, 23:39
Do any of you do the warm start fix in your 2.0 tdi maps ? Apparently all it is is changing the warm start to a cold start programme in the ecu ?

I ask this as my car is embarrassing when starting from warm it takes about 3-4 seconds if cranking and turns out it's a common fault !

Thanks

Yes we can do this mate.

prices ??

We would just include it in the remap price mate, no extra.  I'm not sure I understand your question, is your car already tuned and you just want to have the fix mapped in?
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2011, 23:53
nope its not mapped but i know some mappers include this in the mapping as it seems a common problem for the 140 tdi atleast
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: irmscher on 26 September 2011, 00:11
OK I get it, yep no extra mate.
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: The Doc on 26 September 2011, 00:14
Kudos to you sir, I can only do it on the older EDC15's with manual gearboxes  :sad:
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: irmscher on 26 September 2011, 00:18
I checked with our engineer before replying Craig.. he said it isn't a problem.  Have to say, I've never been asked this before so didn't want to respond without checking first.
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 26 September 2011, 00:20
maybe its not such a common problem then  :grin: ive read it online a load of times people have cleaned earths and replaced start motors but it was all in the mapping  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: The Doc on 26 September 2011, 00:30
I checked with our engineer before replying Craig.. he said it isn't a problem.  Have to say, I've never been asked this before so didn't want to respond without checking first.

Ditto, I've done lots of mk4's with this problem and I've only ever had one MKV Golf GT TDI that was like this.

Cool anyhow kudos to you and yours  :smiley:
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: RTechUK on 26 September 2011, 09:00
Its amazing what boach has added to edc6, my ideas for the the edc16 warm start are issues realte around.

Zeit der Startmomentverzögerung  = Time delay of starting torque  map realted to temp
Rampensperrzeit fur heißen Motor  = Ramp time for the hot engine block
Motordrehzahl unterhalb dieser Schwelle; Einspritzung für redundanten Start mit Kurbelwelle ist erlaubt


Just need a car to play with.
Title: Re: Fao all tuners
Post by: tech1889 on 26 September 2011, 10:56
Well you can have mine lol