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General => General discussion => Topic started by: gtiballs61 on 25 September 2011, 08:01
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Thinking of getting a half decent cam.Budget about 250-300 :undecided:
I have seen a canon 400 dslr kit
includes:400d body only (uk model not rebel)
Box (barcode cut out for an offer at the time)
All discs and paperwork
Battery & battery cover
Original canon cap cover for front of body plus original neck strap
1gb sd card
Battery mains charger plus cables for pc etc
Loweprowe carry case
the guy wants about £150
I dont know anything about cameras only what i have read up on the interweb.
Im liking the quality of pics that Horney is taking,especially the ones from players.
i want to take some HD quality shots.
Please could someone help me choose a decent camera within my budget.
Many Thanks
Gavlar. :kiss:
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Does that come with a lense?
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Does that come with a lense?
Nope.
Is this worth it,how much are lenses? :undecided:
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If it's definitely working and sound then that sounds like a sensible price.
If you're not in a rush I'd be tempted to have a punt on this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canon-EOS-400d-Camera-Body-spares-repair-/220860718272?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item336c531cc0
Which would leave you in one of two situations:
1. put a lens on and the error will go away! SLRs don't take pictures without a lens attached! (get Horney to verify his errors the same without the lens on)
2. put a lens on and the error will remain and you'll be into around £100 to have the unit serviced at a Canon Service Centre such as Colchester Cameras (where mine was done). This gets you a fresh-out-of-the-box unit with a 6 month warrantee.
how much are lenses? :undecided:
Proper newbie question. :grin:
Probably the cheapest new Canon SLR lens on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CANON-EF-50mm-f-1-8-II-AF-PRIME-LENS-f1-8-mark-2-/290373952199?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item439ba2e2c7
Same focal length, but L-Series (Canon professional):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canon-EF-L-series-50-mm-F-1-2-L-USM-Lens-MINT-CONDITION-/170699136788?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item27be761f14
You should be able to pick up an 18-55mm lens (that comes as the camera kit when new) for around £20-30.
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Thanks DH some good info there for me to take a look at. :wink:
So just as long as i dont try to take any pics on it without a lens im alright?
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No, I'm saying that the error in that auction *may* be down to the numpty selling it trying to take pictures without the lens.
I don't think doing that will damage the camera, but the error may be caused by something else.
More information here: http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=63503
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Looking at the sellers feedback he seems to buy/sell camera eqpt. I would think he has tried the camera with a lens already to see if the prob is as simple as that. But if the price is right it may still be worth a gamble.
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I'd give £150 for a 400d body and spend £200 on a nice lense
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I'd give £150 for a 400d body and spend £200 on a nice lense
but would you spend 150 on a 450d body that needed repairing, thats the issue :undecided:
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No chance.
I'd buy the 400d on his first post!
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Error 99 is the camera and lens not talking. Sounds like it's fecked and only worth spare parts money.
The first one you posted sounds ideal.
Nick
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but would you spend 150 on a 450d body that needed repairing, thats the issue :undecided:
But if you spend £40-50 for a non-functioning unit and then £100 for a full service odds-on you'll get a camera with a six month warrantee that's good as new, which any other second hand 400D won't be.
Bear in mind that the service price can include most of the parts of the camera and when it comes in to them they run the Canon version of VAG-COM over the camera as they log all errors as well as specific information about what triggered them.
I spent some time on the phone to them when mine was in for service talking through all this, so so as I knew what a 'service' would actually cover. :grin: It covers most things, but there may be a surcharge if there's too much screwed.
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As a novice to photography and camera's i feel it would be to much of a risk for me to chance buying the faulty cam.Dont get me wrong DH i hear what your saying about the 6 month(out of he box) warranty,no second hand camera can supply.the one advertised in my OG post on ebay also states very clearly,NO returns,NO warranty,NO comebacks :undecided:
I feel spending this much money i should buy new with manu warranty etc.there seems to be a few deals out there at the mo.Just now deciding which one to go for,im going to choose one that i can keep for a while,not one that's "ideal" for begginers,and end up buying another 6 months later cause i want a better one,im going to take my time and choose the right one.(famous last words).
I appreciate every one's feedback and hopefully look forward to hearing some more :kiss:
Gavlar.
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The one thing you can guarantee with an SLR is that it will still be worth something in six months time.
They seem to hold their value very well, unlike many consumer electronics items.
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I would also probably avoid the 450 with the error code.
Here's an idea of the S/H value of a 400D. This is from my favoured camera shop chain (where I bought both my camera's secondhand).
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-400D+18-55IS_42619.html (http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-400D+18-55IS_42619.html)
So that's £230 include the kit lens and will probably come with at least a 3month warrantee, if not 6months.
£100 more and you can get a 450D, which is still a good camera,
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-EOS-450D-+-18-55IS-SALE!_39883.html (http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/Used/Canon-EOS-450D-+-18-55IS-SALE!_39883.html)
but at this price point you can get some good deals on new models.
EG, a brand new Canon 1000D with kit lens for £350
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/products/75075/show.html (http://www.jessops.com/online.store/products/75075/show.html)
If you're really tight on budget, I would get that 400D for £150, but the 18-55 lens off ebay and get a brand new 50mm f1.8 that should all be possible for less than £300. You can always upgrade the camera body at a later date when you have some more cash.
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How much difference in picture quality is the 10.1mp cannon 1000d compared to the
Panasonic FZ45/FZ40 14.1 MP Digital SLR Camera @ £225 :undecided:
Is the panasonic fz40/45 a decent camera?
It seems a lot of camera for a decent price.Am i wrong in judging the camera by how many megapixel it has?
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How much difference in picture quality is the 10.1mp cannon 1000d compared to the
Panasonic FZ45/FZ40 14.1 MP Digital SLR Camera @ £225 :undecided:
Is the panasonic fz40/45 a decent camera?
It seems a lot of camera for a decent price.Am i wrong in judging the camera by how many megapixel it has?
Megapixels is only really important if your printing big images. That Panasonic is a bridge camera ie can't change lenses whereas the 1000d you can fit all sorts of lenses and is a better camera imo.
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It's the creative options on SLRs that make the difference.
That said - a bridge camera with AV and TV modes, which will shoot in RAW will give you a lot of stuff to play with as a starter.