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Title: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 24 September 2011, 16:47
... guess what I've just done ...

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/Andy_vRS/GreyGTI-F.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/Andy_vRS/GreyGTI-R.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/Andy_vRS/GreyGTI-int.jpg)

Similar spec and colour to that.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 24 September 2011, 16:55
You've bought another MK6?
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 24 September 2011, 16:56
Maybe ...  :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 24 September 2011, 17:04
A Public Congratulations to you, though my Private one was much more important.
Now go and have a snooze and dream of Lord Greystoke, commonly known as Tarzan, whilst the kids enjoy their film.
Do wash him tomorrow as he is covered in jungle juice.

I HEREBY NAME YOUR CAR TARZAN.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: scrambled eggs on 24 September 2011, 17:06
Looks a cracker well done  :smiley:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: gizzywizzy on 24 September 2011, 17:11
Umm very nice, at last the longed for xenons, let's hope you will be very happy together  :grin:  Also that is a very nice grey is it steel grey?.  All the best mate, keep an eye out for those bloody speed cameras in your neck of the woods, godamn nightmare  :sad:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimble on 24 September 2011, 18:02
A man with taste! :evil: just like mine minus the leather xenons and LED's......










Although i'll be sorting the latter very soon! :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 24 September 2011, 18:18
Nice one Andy, will look nice with the BBS on them.



Jim
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 24 September 2011, 18:40
It's funny but this time last year Asker named me the Jilter as I was going to sell the GTI and take a company car in a scheme that never actually materialised. And this time this year I've become Jane.

Anyway, get well soon chap.  :kiss:

Scrambled: Thanks.
Amanda: Thanks, got those pesky xenons the expensive way.
Jimble: I'd happily forego the leather/plastic but the xenons were an itch I had to scratch.
Jim: I'm enjoying the novelty of the Shadows for a while. I've finally got my hands on a set. Woot!

I'm surprised nobody has asked me why I've swapped one perfectly good mk6 for another, which is good as I have no rational answer!!
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 24 September 2011, 18:59
It's funny but this time last year Asker named me the Jilter as I was going to sell the GTI and take a company car in a scheme that never actually materialised. And this time this year I've become Jane.

Anyway, get well soon chap.  :kiss:

Scrambled: Thanks.
Amanda: Thanks, got those pesky xenons the expensive way.
Jimble: I'd happily forego the leather/plastic but the xenons were an itch I had to scratch.
Jim: I'm enjoying the novelty of the Shadows for a while. I've finally got my hands on a set. Woot!

I'm surprised nobody has asked me why I've swapped one perfectly good mk6 for another, which is good as I have no rational answer!!

I haven't asked why as I bought 3 Honda VTR Firestorms in 1997-1998, all because I wanted a black one, then a yellow one, then a black one again.

Yeah the wheels look superb especially when clean and a few layers of Rimwax applied  :cool:


Jim
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 24 September 2011, 19:07
I am very happy for you, not for obtaining the Xenons, but that you got Dynaudio which is superb value for money but a pain to retro-fit, though not as difficult as the Xenons. A car without a decent soundsystem is nothing but a taxi IMO. I am glad you changed your car as I know it was touch and go making that decision.

What I'd like to learn from you is whether the RCD510 and the RNS510 sound any different from each other.

With regards to your reversing situation and to provide you with good rear end sensitivity, a most important function, perhaps you should consider a reversing camera. I am not sure, but aftermarket sensors might probably not show up distances on the RNS510 screen. I have both front and rear sensors which I find invaluable, show distances on the RNS510 screen and beep with different tones for front and rear activation from the front and rear loudspeakers respectively.

Soon, very, very soon, it will be my turn to post pictures of my new purchase. I have no choice but to follow suite.

You could name your car Lord Greystoke or Tarzan or even Jane (when you are in the mood). For simplicity, I've named it Tarzan for you: you little swinger!
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: GolfTi on 24 September 2011, 19:35
That colour is nice. :cool:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: sundaydriver on 24 September 2011, 19:37
Very nice, take much of a hit on your old car?
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimble on 24 September 2011, 19:49
Can i be the first to ask what your plans are for your current and new LED's? :huh:

And yes that was a loaded question! :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 24 September 2011, 19:51
Can i be the first to ask what your plans are for your current and new LED's? :huh:
And yes that was a loaded question! :grin:

As he is my forum wife, I'll answer for him. He'll sell the non-smoked ones for a fortune.  :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: evo1986 on 24 September 2011, 20:38
That is one beautiful car. Very close combo to what I nearly bought before my gtd.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: The Doc on 24 September 2011, 21:05
Great colour, great spec, job done  :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 24 September 2011, 21:19
Great colour, great spec, job done  :wink:

Bank balance undone.  :cry:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Saint Steve on 24 September 2011, 21:48
Mad as a hatter  :laugh:...... why not retro fitted bits you wanted?

how much did you loose for doing this deal?


Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 24 September 2011, 21:52
I like silver better  :tongue: :evil:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 24 September 2011, 22:11
Mad as a hatter  :laugh:...... why not retro fitted bits you wanted?
how much did you loose for doing this deal?

I am sure Andy did his sums quite carefully.

It would have cost him £1500 at least to rerofit Bi-Xenons and another £800+ to get mint Monza Shadows. Plus, his car was an early sample and being of poverty spec with old electronics, he would have unnecessary problems and expense fitting Bi-Xenons, would have a hard time to sell it in the future and he needed a change. His electronics could not accomodate LED rears either, giving him a bulb out warning. But most importantly the change makes him happy and feel good. This is priceless. An educated guess could be made of how much extra he paid out, but this is neither here nor there as his heart was set on a newer GTI which suited his needs more than the old one.

We should all congratulate him on his new purchase.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: dean07 on 24 September 2011, 22:23
Very nice :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: gizzywizzy on 24 September 2011, 22:35
A little more of a spend and you can have a nice reversing camera to finish your rear off nicely.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 24 September 2011, 22:39
A little more of a spend and you can have a nice reversing camera to finish your rear off nicely.

I think he is unsure whether to drill a few holes in his rear or have an opening flap with a camera up his arse. I'd plump for the latter in his case. Whichever remedy he chooses, it will protect him from unwanted and damaging rear attack.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 10:28
Very nice, take much of a hit on your old car?
Mad as a hatter  :laugh:...... why not retro fitted bits you wanted?

how much did you loose for doing this deal?

Easy answer to both of these questions.
The hit on the old car depends on which way you do the sums. If you look purely at a part ex price (this saying I paid forecourt price on the new car) I took a hit of less than £3k on the old car which is pretty impressive depreciation for two years on an almost brand new car (less than the new car VAT in fact). Or if you look at it the other way and say I got normal top book for my car which had no optional extras fitted other than paint (and which ever way you dress it up the deprectiation on the old car is out of my hands and has happened whether I kept it two years or ten years, full stop) then in that case I got a car which would have cost retail just over £30k six months ago for £23k.
I'm not expecting to take such a gentle hit when this one goes by the way!!

I'll go back to the retro fits; I specifically wanted my first mk6 as basic spec because the only things I really wanted were the RNS which I could easily source through Darren at the time and 18'' wheels which I had sat on my mk5 and were almost brand new BBSs. Everything else didn't bother me until LED tails became available as the rear lights were the only bit of the mk6 that I absolutely hated about the styling.
The other reason is that I know full well having held a driving licence for 20 odd years that optional extras are generally worth zip when selling your car on again aside from certain ones that are deemed as essential to aid resale of certain models (generally not Volkswagens though). As I don't have a history of keeping my cars long thanks to the many shiny new things designed to tempt me into spending money that would be better off invested elsewhere I didn't want to blow too much of it in one go and wanted to keep depreciation to a minimum with an eye on the future.
Having lived with a mk6 GTI for two years, spent a good part of those two years considering the other options available I came to the point where I realised that there actually isn't any better car out there for my needs. So I plumped for one that had the bits I'd gradually realised over the last couple of years I'd actually quite like. Apart from the leather which I would take or leave any day of the week.

You could also look at it another way. If I was on £100k a year it'd be small change. But I'm not, not even a third of that and if I didn't work all sorts of silly hours I'd stuggle to clear a quarter of that. I'm not self employed so I can't con the taxman into giving me lots of 'expenses' and I don't get a company car allowance (I only live 10 mins from work FFS!!). But as I work all sorts of silly hours I don't have any social life really, don't eat in expensive restaurants, don't own a fancy smartphone or iPad, don't have a huge mortage and live in a modest house in an unfashionable part of town which is handy for work, school and near to elderly in-laws. Interest in savings is negligable unless you're prepared to tie up your money for ever and a day (which sort of defeats the object of having any as you're a long time dead) and most bank accounts don't seem to even keep up with inflation with their interest rates. Property in my part of the world is at London prices with wages at third world levels so not much point buying a big house unless you're in to that sort of thing; to me it's just a roof over my head.
So my GTI is my treat to myself, it suits my needs and gets lots of compliments and I feel proud and lucky to own one.  :smiley:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 10:39
Can i be the first to ask what your plans are for your current and new LED's? :huh:

And yes that was a loaded question! :grin:

 :grin: Not sure what I'm going to do there just yet, the light red ones look pretty good on the grey so I may just leave them as is and put the dark ones up for sale along with the adaptors. Early days yet, still tired after a very long Friday which lasted all of Saturday too, and got a headache!

That is one beautiful car. Very close combo to what I nearly bought before my gtd.
Thanks Lee! See, I did it in the end!!  :grin:

Great colour, great spec, job done  :wink:
Thanks Craig.  :kiss:

I like silver better  :tongue: :evil:
:grin: Yeah, yeah, I know! None of the colours particularly inspire me so I wasn't fussy what colour mine came in. But I do like the grey, it's darker than on the mk5 I'm sure of it.

A little more of a spend and you can have a nice reversing camera to finish your rear off nicely.

Skint now Amanda, I couldn't even afford a packet of chewing gum!! Mind you every time I have a chewing gum a filling seems to fall out so that makes them expensive to me  :laugh:


And thanks again to Asker for fighting my corner and explaining some of my woes yesterday as I nodded off in front of a film.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: sundaydriver on 25 September 2011, 10:43
Nice bit of wheeler dealing then! :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 10:46
Thanks, I've spent the last couple of months productively behind the scenes  :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Buck on 25 September 2011, 10:54
Andy

Very nice decision and result - financially cars make zero sense so it matters now what it cost or will cost its whether you will enjoy it and I for one think you will - and that's all that matters.

Are you returning your trade-in to stock or selling it with the upgrades on?

When do you collect the beauty?
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 11:03
Andy

Very nice decision and result - financially cars make zero sense so it matters now what it cost or will cost its whether you will enjoy it and I for one think you will - and that's all that matters.

Are you returning your trade-in to stock or selling it with the upgrades on?

When do you collect the beauty?
Thanks Buck  :smiley:

The deed has been done and the cars swapped already, there weren't that many mods on the GTI so it was quickly put back to standard when I had a spare hour each afternoon during the last couple of weeks. Wheels off (45min), lights changed (15mins), RNS taken out (15mins), seat trims lifted out (10secs!!), gear knob swapped over (5mins). Borrowed VCDS for 10 mins, scratched head for 9.5 mins and pissed about for 30 secs unticking the couple of boxes that were ticked for the lights. Job done.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 25 September 2011, 11:40
Exonian
Wow long post  :grin: It sounds like i wrote it except you get paid more than me  :tongue:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 11:48
Exonian
Wow long post  :grin: It sounds like i wrote it except you get paid more than me  :tongue:
I'm a typist so it doesn't take me long!!  :laugh:

You can't be doing too badly with a new GTI and Audi within about 12 months - I only managed to scrape to a second hand Golf ...  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 25 September 2011, 12:02
I get paid the least of the two incomes :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 12:07
I get paid the least of the two incomes :wink:

I've only got one proper one, wifey only does 6 hours a week! She's a lucky git!
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimble on 25 September 2011, 12:19
Congrats mate! Keep ME posted on your LED's please?


I feel like a fly round sh1t!!! :grin:

Enjoy! :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: R32UK on 25 September 2011, 12:28
Nice move... best colour also  :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 25 September 2011, 12:44
Congrats mate! Keep ME posted on your LED's please?


I feel like a fly round sh1t!!! :grin:

Enjoy! :wink:

Jimble you still running standards? :sad:


Jim
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimble on 25 September 2011, 13:18
Congrats mate! Keep ME posted on your LED's please?


I feel like a fly round sh1t!!! :grin:

Enjoy! :wink:

Jimble you still running standards? :sad:


Jim
Unfortunatley yes! :sick: I completely agree with Exonian, they're the only part of the car i really don't like! :angry:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 25 September 2011, 13:19
 :huh:
Choose one.  :wink:

Nice move... best colour also  :cool: :cool: :cool:
For Steel Grey.

without doubt the best colour  :cool: :cool: :cool:
very nice  :wink:
For Carbon Grey.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: MAW73 on 25 September 2011, 14:35
Nice one Andy, many congrat's on the new purchase.

The 'Spitting image John Major grey' suits the GTI as well  :grin:

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/MajorSpittingImage_1630696c.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/Andy_vRS/GreyGTI-R.jpg)

The Mk6 it such a great car. Dammn you.....you've sown the seed now and got me fancying another one  :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 25 September 2011, 14:43
Nice one Andy, many congrat's on the new purchase.
The Mk6 it such a great car. Dammn you.....you've sown the seed now and got me fancying another one  :wink:

You've got a fully loaded jobbie except for Xenons and ACC, so why bother. Save your pounds for the Mk7 GTI or something else.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: MAW73 on 25 September 2011, 14:50
Nice one Andy, many congrat's on the new purchase.
The Mk6 it such a great car. Dammn you.....you've sown the seed now and got me fancying another one  :wink:

You've got a fully loaded jobbie except for Xenons and ACC, so why bother. Save your pounds for the Mk7 GTI or something else.

Fair point..... but I'm not going to spend 30k on a Mk7. I'd rather try and get a great deal on a nearly new fully loaded mk6 GTI again.

Pee'd off today. Gave my car a really good wash a detail today and noticed some kerbing on one of my monza's. Aggghh annoyed with myself...... I remember reversing into a space and just cathching a kerb at an angle but thought the rim protection on the Goodyear F1's woulld have taken care of it. 

 
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 25 September 2011, 15:51
Ouch! Sorry to hear about Monza damage. Sickening.
 
I've had a few near misses. However, the plastic Bridgestones (which have 5.5 mm rim protection and supposedly the most) came up trumps. It's for this reason alone that I have suffered them.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: R32UK on 25 September 2011, 15:59
:huh:
Choose one.  :wink:

Nice move... best colour also  :cool: :cool: :cool:
For Steel Grey.

without doubt the best colour  :cool: :cool: :cool:
very nice  :wink:
For Carbon Grey.

I like grey... its the best colour  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 17:08
Nice one Andy, many congrat's on the new purchase.

The 'Spitting image John Major grey' suits the GTI as well  :grin:


The Mk6 it such a great car. Dammn you.....you've sown the seed now and got me fancying another one  :wink:

Thanks Martin  :smiley:
It's funny, the John Major Spitting Image thing was exactly what sprung into my mind too!
Sorry to hear about the Monza. These wheels are remarkably easy to damage and remarkably difficult to repair.


@ Gilly, thanks and thanks for the info the other day. Worked well.  :wink:  :smiley:

@ Jimble, yes I've been keeping you in mind, don't worry. How come you didn't jump in on one of Steve and Dave's group buys last year?
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimble on 25 September 2011, 18:05
^Good question with a simple answer, i just couldn't afford it at that time. Can't really afford it now but hey ho!!  :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: DRC on 25 September 2011, 18:44
Very nice car Andy :)
Seen as I'm down in the West Country with my Dad for the week, maybe I'll have to see the new beast, does look gorgeous in the pictures!
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 25 September 2011, 18:46
^Good question with a simple answer, i just couldn't afford it at that time. Can't really afford it now but hey ho!!  :grin:

They are not cheap, but I may have an idea which might work.
Why don't you introduce them on your Wedding List? A couple of your friends can chip in and before you know it, hey presto, you've been LEDeed.  :smiley:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: R32UK on 25 September 2011, 18:49


@ Gilly, thanks and thanks for the info the other day. Worked well.  :wink:  :smiley:


ahhh now it all become clear  :grin:


Just do the same to put it back..  and enjoy :evil:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 25 September 2011, 18:52


@ Gilly, thanks and thanks for the info the other day. Worked well.  :wink:  :smiley:


ahhh now it all become clear  :grin:


Just do the same to put it back..  and enjoy :evil:

 :laugh: Yeah, if only! But unfortunately a switch is just a switch.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: R32UK on 25 September 2011, 19:07


@ Gilly, thanks and thanks for the info the other day. Worked well.  :wink:  :smiley:


ahhh now it all become clear  :grin:


Just do the same to put it back..  and enjoy :evil:

 :laugh: Yeah, if only! But unfortunately a switch is just a switch.

ahhhh yes... I may have over looked that bit. So will you have to shell out again???  :huh:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 25 September 2011, 19:17

I have to say Andy, I am still quite suprised that this thread isnt you telling us about your new SEAT Cupra R.  If any of us was going to go that way (apart from me) it was you.


Nice to see you're still haning around  :smiley:


Jim
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Hartside on 25 September 2011, 19:25
Very nice and in a great colour, enjoy  :cool:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 25 September 2011, 20:44

I have to say Andy, I am still quite suprised that this thread isnt you telling us about your new SEAT Cupra R.  If any of us was going to go that way (apart from me) it was you.

Jim
Or me.  :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 25 September 2011, 20:49

I have to say Andy, I am still quite suprised that this thread isnt you telling us about your new SEAT Cupra R.  If any of us was going to go that way (apart from me) it was you.

Jim
Or me.  :wink:

I saw a 235 mile on the speedo 60 plate for £19k last week.....



Jim
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 25 September 2011, 20:56
I think i will stick with the mk6 for now see if the curse wares off.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: The Doc on 26 September 2011, 00:00
The curse of the plummeting GTI residuals will ware off in time :wink:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 26 September 2011, 14:16

I have to say Andy, I am still quite suprised that this thread isnt you telling us about your new SEAT Cupra R.  If any of us was going to go that way (apart from me) it was you.

Nice to see you're still haning around  :smiley:
Jim
There are just a few nagging things that put me off the R. The fact that they can't give them away is one! Who knows, if you bought one now you could be quids in a few years down the line if people suddenly wake up to their potential. They're still a bit ugly though. Should have left the front alone and just done the arse-lift on them.
Crap fuel economy also puts me off a little.
Very nice and in a great colour, enjoy  :cool:
Thanks, and thanks.  :smiley:
The curse of the plummeting GTI residuals will ware off in time :wink:
Yeah in about 10 years when they hit the zero pounds shillings and pence value!!  :laugh:
I think Geoff meant the curse of his particular car,  but I know where you're coming from.  :smiley:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 26 September 2011, 16:47
The Seat Leon is one ugly duck and the sooner it is terminated the better. It's even worse looking than that maggot infested premium hatch called the Audi A3.
Cremation of these is well overdue.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: DRC on 26 September 2011, 21:21
I happen to love my 'maggot infested premium hatch Audi A3' and I'm sure Rhyso does too.
Must be why my mother has just chopped her GTI in for an Audi, hmmm......

Also was very fond of my Leons aswell :)
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 26 September 2011, 22:11
I happen to love my 'maggot infested premium hatch Audi A3' and I'm sure Rhyso does too.
Must be why my mother has just chopped her GTI in for an Audi, hmmm......
Also was very fond of my Leons aswell :)

Cars need to die for new ones to emerge. It's called progress. The Mk5 is dead and the A3 is in its death throws which have been unnecessarily protracted. The Mk6 will follow suite. As for the Leon, it should never have been born.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: gizzywizzy on 26 September 2011, 23:43
I happen to love my 'maggot infested premium hatch Audi A3' and I'm sure Rhyso does too.
Must be why my mother has just chopped her GTI in for an Audi, hmmm......
Also was very fond of my Leons aswell :)

Cars need to die for new ones to emerge. It's called progress. The Mk5 is dead and the A3 is in its death throws which have been unnecessarily protracted. The Mk6 will follow suite. As for the Leon, it should never have been born.

As in en?  :laugh:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 27 September 2011, 04:48
Very nice car Andy :)
Seen as I'm down in the West Country with my Dad for the week, maybe I'll have to see the new beast, does look gorgeous in the pictures!

Thanks Dan, sorry for the delayed reply, been running about all over the place the last few days. The car is going into the dealer on Wednesday (hopfully not a sign of things to come as the last one didn't put a foot wrong the whole time I had it), but if you're about some time during the week I'd be happy to give you a guided tour of the grey whale. Be nice to see the Audi too (and yourself of course!!)  :smiley:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 September 2011, 12:14
Cars need to die for new ones to emerge. It's called progress. 
I would not say that, from a looks point of view maybe, but engineering they have turned into white goods.

Sorry VW cannot make cars, their a white goods company now and don't care about standards or there customers.
The Americans see through the rose tinted glasses some people have for VW. I won't be going near a new VW badged product again after the last two.

Were as our mk1 leon is coming back to us it may not be as advanced as more modern VW badged products but its well constructed and does what its suppose to do.  :cool:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: MAW73 on 27 September 2011, 12:32
Cars need to die for new ones to emerge. It's called progress. 
I would not say that, from a looks point of view maybe, but engineering they have turned into white goods.

Sorry VW cannot make cars, their a white goods company now and don't care about standards or there customers.
The Americans see through the rose tinted glasses some people have for VW. I won't be going near a new VW badged product again after the last two.

Were as our mk1 leon is coming back to us it may not be as advanced as more modern VW badged products but its well constructed and does what its suppose to do.  :cool:

If the new Leon looks like this in 2012 I will be taking a closer look at one  :wink:

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/seatleon2.jpg)

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/WITHCOMBEM/seatleon1.jpg)
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Jimmymature on 27 September 2011, 12:56

Yeah those pics do look nice. Although it was never the exterior that put me off the SEAT's in the past...



Jim
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 13:17
@Snoops:
VW products are sought the world over and are not considered white goods. You, unfortunately amongst a few others, have had a bitter experience. However, the majority of drivers and that includes myself, are more than satisfied with the VW product. Perhaps we don't dissect a car as thoroughly as you and thus get disappointed if certain features and factors don't meet our personal criteria.

I am sorry I have to disagree with you on this matter. I know how strongly you feel about it due to the many problems you have had to endure. But, in reality, there are very few loud and lone voices that project their disappointment. These tend to mask the silent majority of drivers who truly love their VWs.

I feel my GTI is as near perfect a car as is possible. I love it.


@MAW73:
I would not bet on it. SEAT is a basket case and VW would love to get shot of it. Their cars promise much but never deliver. VW have a difficult time with the Spanish Unions. Reminds me of another country in the 70s which nearly came to its knees and in the process lost its motor car industry eventually. Thatcher was a saviour of sorts.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 September 2011, 18:17
I see it as a white good as its designed for people who change cars every couple of years.
Its designed for the iplop touchy feely, stroke generation who have no idea how to even fit a 3pin mains plug.
SEAT is simply mis-managed by VW and not allowed to go in the direction it was originally intended to go because of VW. (SEAT was suppose to be moved to under 'Audi brand group' control and become sporty brand building on the the sucsess of the original cupras). SEAT in the Mid 90s till mid 00's produced superior cars to there VW rival.
The problem was some idiot thought it a good idea to let a bloke called walter De'silva to re-invent SEAT design direction.
VW have large problems with there German work force.

I may have had a couple of issues with the mk6 but its not the only VW modern product we have as a family had in recent years. They have all suffered from poor quality control, Extremely Poor customer service, Poor dealerships,
There built to a price (expensive workforce) to maximise profit (So VW can take over the world) and sod the customer approach. I read others from OZ,USA, Germany saying similar regular.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 27 September 2011, 18:19
I see it as a white good as its designed for people who change cars every couple of years.
Its designed for the iplop touchy feely, stroke generation who have no idea how to even fit a 3pin mains plug.
SEAT is simply mis-managed by VW and not allowed to go in the direction it was originally intended to go because of VW. (SEAT was suppose to be moved to under 'Audi brand group' control and become sporty brand building on the the sucsess of the original cupras). SEAT in the Mid 90s till mid 00's produced superior cars to there VW rival.
The problem was some idiot thought it a good idea to let a bloke called walter De'silva to re-invent SEAT design direction.
VW have large problems with there German work force.


Amen to that
100% agree, could've written that myself (  :grin: )

Hopefully Luc Donkeyb*ll*cks will do the necessary but I have a feeling he's moved on too.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 September 2011, 18:31
 :grin:
I used the mk1 leon today. It may not be the best handling car, it may not be the best image car but theres little touches that were standard i like. Like the door lights, the door sill covers, the heater that seems to control properly, the folding mirrors, the steering feel, The properly design boot handle that sits in a plastic resess so does not fill with water and rot out like the poor VW design copy of it  :grin:  etc etc.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 27 September 2011, 18:38
I was offered a really good deal on a run out FR+ mk1 Leon TDI and have always regretted not buying it. I reckon I'd still have it today if I did, which is saying something for me as I rarely keep a car 2 years let alone any longer. For some silly reason I bought a mk5 Golf 140 TDI that I picked up quite cheap (as it had a few miles on it) mistakenly thinking the 2.0 PD would be much better than the 1.9. WRONG! Still, I had a bit of fun modifying it and it made a good family cruiser that was pretty rapid.
 :sad:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 18:48
If VW products are so shockingly bad, why do you (Exonian and Snoops) keep buying them?
This is my first VW product, but you two have a long and vibrant history with them. Interesting.  :tongue:






































Be happy.  :kiss:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 September 2011, 18:58
I don't personally.
I bought the mk6 and the way it went from start to today i wish i hadn't, But im stubborn and don't like to give up.
I do regular keep wishing i had bought a last of the line SEAT leon cupra R back in 2005 when we bought the other leon as one was even in the showroom talking to me!  We had had an early 210 one and loved every minute of it.
But we bought into the mk5 and i should have learned and not got the mk6 but i have a thing for GTI's. If it had not been for my mk1 GTI's i would not have had the mk6. I will have another GTI but it will be a mk1,mk2 or mk3, it won't be a newer one.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 18:59
Oh dear, Snoops. You MUST lean from your mistakes.  :grin: :evil: :kiss:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 19:03
Andy. What's this?

80GTI>83GTI>88GTI>91GTI>92G40>92VR6>88GTI>96VR6>01Cupra>89GTI16V>02GTI>06PoloGTI>05GTI>09GTI>11GTI (plus 3x IbizaTDI>05FabiaVRS>04GolfTDI and a load I've forgotten)

Sooooooo many VWs.
Tantamount to self-flagellation.  :laugh:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 September 2011, 19:05
Oh dear, Snoops. You MUST lean from your mistakes.  :grin: :evil: :kiss:
If i get this mk2 im after that may just happen  :smug:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 19:07
Oh dear, Snoops. You MUST lean from your mistakes.  :grin: :evil: :kiss:
If i get this mk2 im after that may just happen  :smug:

 :cool:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 27 September 2011, 19:09
If VW products are so shockingly bad, why do you (Exonian and Snoops) keep buying them?
This is my first VW product, but you two have a long and vibrant history with them. Interesting.  :tongue:
  :kiss:

Geoff's last paragraph was edited in after I was already typing my post. But I'm not off to the best of starts with this one so I didn't edit my post accordingly.
My mk6 was perfectly reliable and I haven't had much other than the odd niggle with any of my VWs, SEATs or even the Skoda I ran for a little while.
But I treat my VWs like white goods. Here today gone tomorrow. The last car I felt anything for was my 1991 GTI.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 19:11
If VW products are so shockingly bad, why do you (Exonian and Snoops) keep buying them?
This is my first VW product, but you two have a long and vibrant history with them. Interesting.  :tongue:
  :kiss:

Geoff's last paragraph was edited in after I was already typing my post. But I'm not off to the best of starts with this one so I didn't edit my post accordingly.
My mk6 was perfectly reliable and I haven't had much other than the odd niggle with any of my VWs, SEATs or even the Skoda I ran for a little while.
But I treat my VWs like white goods. Here today gone tomorrow. The last car I felt anything for was my 1991 GTI.

You treat everything that is not human like white goods. And so it should be.  :cool:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Snoopy on 27 September 2011, 19:12
If VW products are so shockingly bad, why do you (Exonian and Snoops) keep buying them?
This is my first VW product, but you two have a long and vibrant history with them. Interesting.  :tongue:
You are correct I have a long history with VW/SEAT/Audi yes, but there older cars. There older cars i rate. Its why i own some. Its why most my family started running there products because of how good cars like the mk2 golf, Audi 100 were in the 80s. Its why we have had many happpy experiences with since but it seems the current modern stuff cannot live upto the older stuffs reputation. (Im not just going by my mk6 here. I fix and look after cars out of warrenty for family members mostly VW/SEAT/Skoda/Audi).

You say i should learn, your correct and I would like to get to the point my collection looks something like.
Audi Ur-quattro 20V,
VW Golf GTI 1.8 16V mk2
VW Golf GTI 1.6 Mk1 Series 1
VW Golf GTI 1.8 Campiagn mk1
Riley Elf MkII
 
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: gizzywizzy on 27 September 2011, 22:38
Oh dear, Snoops. You MUST lean from your mistakes.  :grin: :evil: :kiss:

Ha ha I'm bending over backwards to correct your mistakes  :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 27 September 2011, 22:55
Unusual for me - a typo. I usually check and re-check.
 
Geoff, Andy and myself were posting like mad and having some innocent fun. I lost an R in the process.
Hope Geoff has stopped leaning! :grin:
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: DRC on 28 September 2011, 15:35
Andy,

If that was you I was behind in Marsh Barton today, you don't hang about!
Car was identical to yours, WF60 plate in that colour grey, probably was your car! I was a couple of cars behind but it had gone before I could get past them.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 28 September 2011, 16:20
No that wasn't me Dan, I was tucked up in bed.
My car was in Marsh Barton though, but not that reg.
It was in for a new oil temp switch. Good start to proceedings!

Thinking about it, the dealership demo is a Carbon Grey DSG and is a WF60 reg.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: Exonian on 02 October 2011, 17:29
Spent today changing the wheels, giving the car a bath and sticking the nav unit out of the old car. Well, you've got to make the most of 25 Celsius in October as it'll probably be frosty by the end of the week!!

A few thoughts on the 2011 car vs the 2009. The 09 car sounded a little better and rode a little better (both non ACC). The brakes on the later car don't have that silly initial bite that nearly throws you into the steering wheel which the early MK6s had, and it may be my imagination but the throttle pedal seems to be more responsive at low openings.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: dubber36 on 02 October 2011, 18:27

 Well, you've got to make the most of 25 Celsius in October as it'll probably be frosty by the end of the week!!


I didn't, well not after 11 o clock anyway. I got all my jobs done this morning so that I could watch the touring cars.
Title: Re: After everything I've said ...
Post by: am1w on 02 October 2011, 18:29
Andy:

Love the signature.
Well yours is Fascist Grey and mine is Communist Red.
You know what happened to the former. The latter are doing rather well.


War crimes of the Wehrmacht
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht

 :kiss: