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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: sprout99 on 19 September 2011, 19:00
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Hello all.
Who has what?
Is it worth going down the route of the oem kit and replacing the friction plate?
Does the cover plate need to be uprated too?
Thanks
Ian
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Its the cover plate which looses the claping force, you can put an brand new oem friction plate in there only to find is will slip with the added torque.
All we do is fit brand new OEM friction & pressure plates to customer cars and on the 130/150bhp are good for over 340lbft.
What bhp TDI engine do you have, how many miles and what power are you looking at going for?
Nick
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it's a 2002 150pd and has 69k on clock and i'm guessing original clutch.
It has an upsolute map on and it's been tweaked to be as smooth as possible
(knowing how agressive the pd's can be) the torque has been reduced at the lower revs to make it more linear
in it delivery. It feels lovely when it's behaving. It's not pushed as far as it could be as i don't like the smoke
and want to keep drivability in wet
The clutch doesn't always slip. It seems to be very sporadic and more so if accelerating
up the box like onto a motorway. So your theory fits,
When it's been running a while the is no slip at all. But when playing up from 3rd gear upwards and always
between 2300 and 2500 revs.
I would only ever fit LUK or SACHS anyway if i went OEM route and with forum discount the
kits are quite good value.
Is that what you fit? Is it worth changing the DMF and concentric slave too?
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Just as well change the whole lot whilst its apart although the DMF may be ok :undecided:
Standard clutch will be fine on a stage 1 map; anything more will require something a little bit better :smiley:
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Just as well change the whole lot whilst its apart although the DMF may be ok :undecided:
Standard clutch will be fine on a stage 1 map; anything more will require something a little bit better :smiley:
DMF is £200 +............
I don't plan to go beyond the stage 1 map. It's my daily and whole point of selling my beloved mk2 16V was
fuel economy and reliability
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Just as well change the whole lot whilst its apart although the DMF may be ok :undecided:
Standard clutch will be fine on a stage 1 map; anything more will require something a little bit better :smiley:
DMF is £200 +............
I don't plan to go beyond the stage 1 map. It's my daily and whole point of selling my beloved mk2 16V was
fuel economy and reliability
Labour to change the DMF after you've replaced the clutch = £150+ and upwards
Depends if you like having the gearbox swapped out or not :tongue:
I stuck an LUK DMF back in when I did my clutch and 35K later is was rattling again :lipsrsealed: so try and go Sachs
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i'd prefer SACHS anyway
my last 130pd clutch was changed for SACHS oem after remap and was no bother for the nest 50k miles
and that was with original DMF too.
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i'd prefer SACHS anyway
my last 130pd clutch was changed for SACHS oem after remap and was no bother for the nest 50k miles
and that was with original DMF too.
A lot of it depends on what sort of life the car has led previously; some go on for the life of the car; others go in the blink of an eye :undecided:
Stupid fooking thing at the end of the day :angry:
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i'd prefer SACHS anyway
my last 130pd clutch was changed for SACHS oem after remap and was no bother for the nest 50k miles
and that was with original DMF too.
A lot of it depends on what sort of life the car has led previously; some go on for the life of the car; others go in the blink of an eye :undecided:
Stupid fooking thing at the end of the day :angry:
yeah i agree.....one good thing i can say. there is no rattle, no shudder and all very smooth
so seems to be ok.
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i'd prefer SACHS anyway
my last 130pd clutch was changed for SACHS oem after remap and was no bother for the nest 50k miles
and that was with original DMF too.
A lot of it depends on what sort of life the car has led previously; some go on for the life of the car; others go in the blink of an eye :undecided:
Stupid fooking thing at the end of the day :angry:
yeah i agree.....one good thing i can say. there is no rattle, no shudder and all very smooth
so seems to be ok.
Might want to delete that comment before it comes back and haunts you :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin:
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Yeah ....too late now.
i have every faith in my car. She's a gud'un !
:cool:
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is it worth considering the SMF route? ECP do a VALEO kit.
I've heard it makes the car noisy on idle?
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is it worth considering the SMF route? ECP do a VALEO kit.
I've heard it makes the car noisy on idle?
Goodbye teeth and ear drums!!
I was chatting to Nick @ Carbon yesterday and he's spotted a race DMF in the Sachs catalogue. Instead of being fitted with rubber its fitted with springs. Might be worth investigating that although don't expect it to be cheap..........
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is it worth considering the SMF route? ECP do a VALEO kit.
I've heard it makes the car noisy on idle?
Goodbye teeth and ear drums!!
I was chatting to Nick @ Carbon yesterday and he's spotted a race DMF in the Sachs catalogue. Instead of being fitted with rubber its fitted with springs. Might be worth investigating that although don't expect it to be cheap..........
BMW ones are like that
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=206768.0
excellent news ........
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=206768.0
excellent news ........
Happy days :cool: Great price too :afro:
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i'm guessing that to get best results it's start from a clean sheet of paper
as in nice flat flywheel and nice new clutch kit.
i plan on keeping car a while so want it right but with 6 week old baby spend is tight.
going to need tyres soon too.
:cry:
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is it worth considering the SMF route? ECP do a VALEO kit.
I've heard it makes the car noisy on idle?
Goodbye teeth and ear drums!!
I was chatting to Nick @ Carbon yesterday and he's spotted a race DMF in the Sachs catalogue. Instead of being fitted with rubber its fitted with springs. Might be worth investigating that although don't expect it to be cheap..........
Havent they done that a while and costs £1400 with a clutch....
ECP's price is very good. thats what I got dont see the point of a upgraded clutch/flywheel if you're only running a remap
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is it worth considering the SMF route? ECP do a VALEO kit.
I've heard it makes the car noisy on idle?
Goodbye teeth and ear drums!!
I was chatting to Nick @ Carbon yesterday and he's spotted a race DMF in the Sachs catalogue. Instead of being fitted with rubber its fitted with springs. Might be worth investigating that although don't expect it to be cheap..........
Havent they done that a while and costs £1400 with a clutch....
ECP's price is very good. thats what I got dont see the point of a upgraded clutch/flywheel if you're only running a remap
You thinking of the setup JKM were selling?? I thought that was an SMF with that clutch kit? :undecided:
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is it worth considering the SMF route? ECP do a VALEO kit.
I've heard it makes the car noisy on idle?
Goodbye teeth and ear drums!!
I was chatting to Nick @ Carbon yesterday and he's spotted a race DMF in the Sachs catalogue. Instead of being fitted with rubber its fitted with springs. Might be worth investigating that although don't expect it to be cheap..........
Havent they done that a while and costs £1400 with a clutch....
ECP's price is very good. thats what I got dont see the point of a upgraded clutch/flywheel if you're only running a remap
was yours slipping sporadically too? what miles on it when changed? did you change dmf too
thanks
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news sachs kit fitted
lets hope it's better
picking it up later.
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Well??
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i was a little un impressed at first thinking i'd wasted my money as it was letting go more than before
but now after a little sensible driving to let it settle in it's
loads better.
So happy days now. Pedal feels lovely and very positive pull
Glad i changed the DMF....old one has about 15 degress of rotational free play in it
bigger bonus was the 25% discount i managed to get at ECP
:grin:
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Yeah the first few miles on a new clutch are never good; well I've never experienced good things lol
Sounds like a result; just bed it in nice and gently for a few miles before you unleash the power :evil:
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Yeah the first few miles on a new clutch are never good; well I've never experienced good things lol
Sounds like a result; just bed it in nice and gently for a few miles before you unleash the power :evil:
yup....it was slipping like a gud un at first. I wasn't amused.
i've been grannying today but car feels very eager and a dream to drive.
I'll keep the b road hammering until i've done a few hundred miles