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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: tech1889 on 17 September 2011, 15:42
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Anyone on here made their own hard brake lines using copper of Kunifer ?? Any tips ??
Or does anyone know where to buy a whole new set of hard brake lines as i want to replace mine ??
Thanks
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Found this link
http://www.brokevw.com/flare.html
from this guy selling a full kit
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-BRAKE-PIPE-KIT-TOOL-Golf-mk2-mk1-mk3-KUNIFER-hose-/290601501006?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a933014e#ht_5165wt_1037
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If you measure the length carefully, or take the old one with you, most local motor factors will make one up for you.
h8v.
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If you measure the length carefully, or take the old one with you, most local motor factors will make one up for you.
h8v.
no can do on that front as ive broken the old ones lol
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Easy to make mate, use kunifer. You can get simple pipe benders that really tidy up the curves, they're less than a tenner.
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so what you think that kit i linked and a cheap pipe bender ??
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Looks ok mate, I use an old school flaring tool so don't know the quality of the one in the kit. For reference, from my local motor factors I pay £11 for 25 feet of kunifer and 25p for the ends (all +vat).
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thats the thing this kit means i get it all in one place...
if you can point me to a place online that sell the end bits then i will buy separate as kunifer is only £14 on the bay
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Oof! For that money I would just go to a motor factors and get them made up, even if they are broken they will be able to get the lengths right and I would be surprised if it cost much more than that kit. Otherwise, do as your thinking and buy the bits seperately but make sure and get the correct flaring tool and ends.
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Can't understand why people think a motor factors will be able to do a better job at making brake lines than a careful owner who wants his brake lines to be neat / fit in all the factory clips etc
You want male m10 x 1.0 unions for 3/16 brake pipe
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-PIPE-UNIONS-M10-x-1mm-Short-male-suit-3-16-/160614758949?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item256562ba25
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Thank you very much..
My motor factors want about 50-60 to cut s straight length and flare them.. This way will cost Roughly the same and I will have pipe left over and a flaring tool should I want to remake again makes sense to me :wink:
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I made my own for the front, took the old ones off, measured them with some wire, cut the pipe to length and then followed the curves of the orignal. Make sure you put the ends on before you bend the pipe, maybe even tape them in place as they may get stuck behind a tight curve.
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I bought my brake kit from Frosts:
http://www.frost.co.uk/aumotive-brakes-tools.html
Including this tool:
http://www.frost.co.uk/aumotive-brakes-tools/brake-pipe-flaring-tool.html
Re-lined my Golf with it and I've replaced various other lines since.
I prefer bending lines by hand, because you get a lot closer to what you want. Provided you support the pipe all along the section you're bending you should avoid kinking it - go for it - it'll save you money and aggro in the long run.
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which kit you get mate ?? how do the flares come out with that kit ?
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Flares come out fine. I got a box of unions, couple of lengths of pipe and the flaring tool above.
It came out well in a PPC group test a couple of months ago.
I've done a fair number of ends and only had one screw up IIRC. It's pretty simple to use.
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Handy tip when bending pipes is to fill it with very dry sand. This will stop the pipe collapsing into a kink at the bend.
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Handy tip when bending pipes is to fill it with very dry sand. This will stop the pipe collapsing into a kink at the bend.
Like shot blast sand ?
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Handy tip when bending pipes is to fill it with very dry sand. This will stop the pipe collapsing into a kink at the bend.
Don't think I'm keen on this idea - just support the pipe evenly and it should be fine.
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Handy tip when bending pipes is to fill it with very dry sand. This will stop the pipe collapsing into a kink at the bend.
Don't think I'm keen on this idea - just support the pipe evenly and it should be fine.
Worked for Hardy Kruger when building his plane in the Sahara. :smug:
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Worked for Hardy Kruger when building his plane in the Sahara. :smug:
a) the UK's not renowned for being dry, the Sahara is. Sand is far more likely to stick in the particularly small pipes due to the higher ambient moisture content.
b) did he use it specifically in the brake pipes?
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would a £5 pipe bender be adequate ?
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Worked for Hardy Kruger when building his plane in the Sahara. :smug:
a) the UK's not renowned for being dry, the Sahara is. Sand is far more likely to stick in the particularly small pipes due to the higher ambient moisture content.
b) did he use it specifically in the brake pipes?
No Fuel line. More hardcore. I don't think brakes were his primary concern at the time. Well, I think flushing out the sand with water will get it clean. Or use table salt. :nerd:
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I'd be concerned about getting the sand back out. Its not necassary you can bend brake pike with your hands you just need to be careful.
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.....concider your nipples!!!! make sure they are loose first!! :wink:
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.....concider your nipples!!!! make sure they are loose first!! :wink:
what on the MC and such ?
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I'm guessing he means on the calipers, so you don't get the new pipe made up, then shear off a nipple trying to bleed the system up.
Fair advice.
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sorry for the random comment, a bit of light humour! :smiley:
I had brake pipes made up recently fitted them and went to bleed the system and the the niple on the caliper (as you said Dimond Hell) sheard off! had to replace the calipers too!!
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Can't understand why people think a motor factors will be able to do a better job at making brake lines than a careful owner who wants his brake lines to be neat / fit in all the factory clips etc
You want male m10 x 1.0 unions for 3/16 brake pipe
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-PIPE-UNIONS-M10-x-1mm-Short-male-suit-3-16-/160614758949?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item256562ba25
meh, this is why we make straight lengths, rather than pre-bending. The onus is then on the customer to f*** that up!