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General => General discussion => Topic started by: CCGTI on 05 September 2011, 21:06
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Right i know brad has done his superb BAM conversion and i also know the cost of it, but how much have your standard AUQ AUM etc engine conversions cost, i am looking at doing one in the new year and want an engine that has done no more than 70k
What hidden cost are there, what the cost of the loom splining and engine management sorting
Cheers for looking
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budget for 3k with a normal 1.8T mate, possible to do it for 2.5 ish
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OR buy this:
http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=399453
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budget for 3k with a normal 1.8T mate, possible to do it for 2.5 ish
This is the argument i have just had with some one brad, Benjamines best mate infact, he recons he can do it £1k lol fooooool, i sat at a push £1600 if you have a 16v to convert if not £2000
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OR buy this:
http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=399453
saw that the other day, but i want it in my car lol
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budget for 3k with a normal 1.8T mate, possible to do it for 2.5 ish
This is the argument i have just had with some one brad, Benjamines best mate infact, he recons he can do it £1k lol fooooool, i sat at a push £1600 if you have a 16v to convert if not £2000
mate, iv not got your number so pm me it, i can break down some costs, 1k wont get you sh!t, 2k is gonna be a struggle believe me, i know :grin:
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i know mate, did ben gine you them badges
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no not yet, iv not seen him yet was supposed to be seeing him tomo tho
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3k plus. You can easily spend more :)
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You can get an AUQ with loom etc for around £750 so £1500 should get you the conversion done.
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You can get an AUQ with loom etc for around £750 so £1500 should get you the conversion done.
not, custom down pipe £250/£300 loom sorted is another £350 etc
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Alway factor in more. Depends on how well you want it to go/look.
Anyone who has done this type of conversion will know how the hidden extras add up. Those who haven't dont. :wink:
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yep as iv told him, the basics add up to a minimum 3k for a real good job - and that price is if you can find a genuine engine for the 700 mark
a lot of sh!te out their
1500 wont do nothin sadly
here is a few costs off top of my head - their WILL be more parts needed
lets say the engine is 700
loom converison and immob defeat 350
custom downpipe 260 (forget qpeng crap which is 230)
exhaust - Jetex 350
Cat (if needed - most will need it) i paid 200 is for my custom one i never used (its for sale)
front mount cooler and all piping needed to make it up approx 250 maybe more
Engine mounts and brakets from ABF thats needed 160 -200
ABF G.box / fly / hydro set up 200 approx
New VR6 clutch 140
induction kit (will be needed as standard airbox wont fit) + relocation parts 150
Gbox oil 15
engine oil 50
spark plugs 40
water pump 40
cambelt kit 100
thats 3k right their and as i say more bits will be needed along the way - this is just the basics
my converison was over 5k
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Some costs can be saved if the car is a 16v as you will have hydro setup a gearbox already. You can also save a bit on the loom if you can do it yourself or get rubjonny to do it. Immo defeat will be extra still.
Also labour is a big cost unless you do alot yoursaelf.
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all depends how much you do yourself what kit you have and how good at sorceing parts you are.
helped a mate do his and we got that up and running for less than £500, £411 for a crap mk4 gti at auction and about £80 worth service items. its only a 180 brake lump but remaped it makes about 210 with map, but it'll do for now and it made it intresting to try and do it for sub £500 ironicaly the budget meant keeping the mk4 box. but it'll be getting a more intresting flavor of 1.8t when i get time to build it :evil:
at the other end of the scale 1.8 conversions get intresting again you can quite happaly blow 10k buy the time you've built an intresting engine, done some funky pipework and put a 6 speed box and slippy diff in there
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Some costs can be saved if the car is a 16v as you will have hydro setup a gearbox already. You can also save a bit on the loom if you can do it yourself or get rubjonny to do it. Immo defeat will be extra still.
Also labour is a big cost unless you do alot yoursaelf.
Loom price would work out about same if u used rubjonny as u would need the immobiliser sorting plus theirs loads of small sh!tty bits that end up costing as u know haha :evil:
So as I say budget for circa 3k upwards for a good reliable conversion. It's not gonna happen for 500 notes the exhaust will cost u more than that alone. Unless u are popping it back into another mk4 lol
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Looking at that list i have about half the stuff needed so would save me a lot of money :grin: :grin: cat-back exhaust.. ABF mounts.. ABF gearbox and all associated.. VR6 sachs clutch.. all i would need is engine.. wiring.. downpipe.. and FMIC still wouldnt be cheap once you factor in all the small stuff.. i think your better off buying a 1.8t for like £1500 doing the conversion and selling all the other parts
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its a expensive job to do right, exhaust has to be the right size bore for a start.. i had planned to keep my old magnex but couldnt - stuff like this always crops up :grin:
worth it tho
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its a expensive job to do right, exhaust has to be the right size bore for a start.. i had planned to keep my old magnex but couldnt
I might be wrong but could you not use a smaller bore exhaust on a non Bam / 225 conversion
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£5k :grin:
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its a expensive job to do right, exhaust has to be the right size bore for a start.. i had planned to keep my old magnex but couldnt
I might be wrong but could you not use a smaller bore exhaust on a non Bam / 225 conversion
Not really well I personally wouldn't with the back pressure from the turbo etc, I'd want at least the same bore as donor car but I'm very picky I guess haha and also work on the "do it once, do it right" theory
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perfectly possible to use a smaller bore exhaust, it'll still work
whats more inportant to consider is the desing and shape of the system and the silencers.
turbos make excelent silencers themselves so when doing a turbo exhaust you only need a singel box at the back of the system, as for sizeing of the pipes a smaller bore well desinged and built system can outflow a larger bore system at a given pressure differance quite easaly. nice sweeping mandrel bends FTW 3" is often preferd as it sounds better and helps them sell
thers not much point being fussy with the downpipe if your still running a std manifold TBH as thats nasty
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LOL
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budget for 3k with a normal 1.8T mate, possible to do it for 2.5 ish
This is the argument i have just had with some one brad, Benjamines best mate infact, he recons he can do it £1k lol fooooool, i sat at a push £1600 if you have a 16v to convert if not £2000
I dont suppose thats Daz.E on Facebook is it?I recall seeing that and commenting on it.Unfortunately i dont think he has a clue what is involved in the conversion. :huh:
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budget for 3k with a normal 1.8T mate, possible to do it for 2.5 ish
This is the argument i have just had with some one brad, Benjamines best mate infact, he recons he can do it £1k lol fooooool, i sat at a push £1600 if you have a 16v to convert if not £2000
I dont suppose thats Daz.E on Facebook is it?I recall seeing that and commenting on it.Unfortunately i dont think he has a clue what is involved in the conversion. :huh:
It is him indeed mate
seems he isnt the only one either going by some of the stuff been said in this thread :grin:
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I'm sure if it's done on the cheap. It won't be a very good one.
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It is him indeed mate
seems he isnt the only one either going by some of the stuff been said in this thread :grin:
Aaah i thought so :laugh: hope he gets another sunstrip like his last car had :lipsrsealed: :evil:
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I kindly offered to do Daz a conversion from his 8v to a VR6 for £1000, thats him giving me his 8v and me returning him a VR, fully serviced, new engine mounts, cleaned bay etc etc
He said he could get an engine for £350 so didn't want to pay me to just 'Pull his engine out and bob in the other one'
Was I trying to rip him off???????
I dont think so
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perfectly possible to use a smaller bore exhaust, it'll still work
whats more inportant to consider is the desing and shape of the system and the silencers.
turbos make excelent silencers themselves so when doing a turbo exhaust you only need a singel box at the back of the system, as for sizeing of the pipes a smaller bore well desinged and built system can outflow a larger bore system at a given pressure differance quite easaly. nice sweeping mandrel bends FTW 3" is often preferd as it sounds better and helps them sell
thers not much point being fussy with the downpipe if your still running a std manifold TBH as thats nasty
As Danny has said, bore size on the whole exhaust is not as important as you would think.
The most important part is the manifolding as it is turbulent air flow that causes most issues. The ultimate way to ensure that the gas flow is maintained without back pressure becoming an issue is to flow from a larger pipe (manifolding) to a smaller pipe (exhaust) using a 4-2-1 set up with polished internals and large radius bends ensuring smooth transfer through the corners, then a conical blend in to the main exhaust. Removing a CAT removes a restriction and will aid overall gas flow but there is really no need for a 3inch exhaust on and engine under 2.5 ltrs.
Basically it's all about first principals and the venturi effect. The turbo has a very little effect on this as it is designed to flow high volumes of air without unbalancing gas flow and thus surging.
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perfectly possible to use a smaller bore exhaust, it'll still work
whats more inportant to consider is the desing and shape of the system and the silencers.
turbos make excelent silencers themselves so when doing a turbo exhaust you only need a singel box at the back of the system, as for sizeing of the pipes a smaller bore well desinged and built system can outflow a larger bore system at a given pressure differance quite easaly. nice sweeping mandrel bends FTW 3" is often preferd as it sounds better and helps them sell
thers not much point being fussy with the downpipe if your still running a std manifold TBH as thats nasty
Where are you getting your info from? Have you tested small systems on cars using test data or dyno analysis ? What about EGTs?
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Some people on here need to go away and do some research (try club GTI)
Too much flow = no go but anything less than 2.5 is BAD idea. The standard mk 3 systems are leas than this and so are most aftermarket systems except jetex hence why moat people run them
The comment about 4-2-1 Downpipe made me LOL - obviously you are not familiar with the AMK/BAM and probably the rest of the 1.8t platform
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http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238179&highlight=Exhaust+size
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Yes some people do.
Well it's an informed answer, for those that wish to make up their own minds and possibly do a little more reading in to the first principals behind exhaust gas flow, but I was just a tier 1 OEM engine developer, what do I know.
BTW that link just proves what I just wrote. Start big (manifolding) and go smaller (exhaust) - venturi effect.
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Yes some people do.
Well it's an informed answer, for those that wish to make up their own minds and possibly do a little more reading in to the first principals behind exhaust gas flow, but I was just a tier 1 OEM engine developer, what do I know.
BTW that link just proves what I just wrote. Start big (manifolding) and go smaller (exhaust) - venturi effect.
No what I linked to is what I said in my original reply and is what I'm running. You went on about 4-2-1 and all that. Which is irrelevant to this application. Not doubting your knowledge but some of the stuff said is pointless info
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Well it's an informed answer, for those that wish to make up their own minds and possibly do a little more reading in to the first principals behind exhaust gas flow, but I was just a tier 1 OEM engine developer, what do I know.
The thing you don't understand is what happens in the real world. You're just talking fancy speak aren't you?
As eny fule kno big exhausts = good, small exhausts = bad.
Where are you getting your info from? Have you tested small systems on cars using test data or dyno analysis ? What about EGTs?
Our survey said 'ding'. :grin:
Just cos it's buffed up, don't make it fast, boys.
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So we agreed what I originally said
2.5 to 3" Downpipe mated to a minimum 2.5" exhaust
Any less is too small for this application and a moron thing to do
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(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoLpjUqwPVQ4dMOE9i7F3sbjtTIynhIx_tKXsqvsvMEvPT4VJo)
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:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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If not bright enough to form an intelligent response then = your Mum
:rolleyes:
£10 says Danny and I could convert my Corrado to 1.8T for under a grand, easy.
But then, we're not mincers.
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Just to confirm, most VW 1.8T's are 4-1 with an incorp turbo (or at least the mountings for one) as far as I know. I could be wrong, as I haven't worked on many.
The 4-2-1 comment was more as an example in terms of trying to extract the best from the cars gas potential.
Ultimately if you want to get the best from the exhaust you really need to go to great depths in terms of honing the internal corners/joins/welds removing all possible parts that could cause turbulence. Stainless steels are the best option as they are naturally smoother purely because of material manufacture. Ideally if you can orbitally weld it using sleeve fittings it will help, but there will be inherent turbulence zones due to the shyte manifolding set up.
Go the whole hog and get the turbo relocated with a bit more manifold tuning. Equal lengths and gentle radii are key.
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So what your all saying is,this is perfect?
(http://ra64freddy.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/bosozoku-exhaust-of-the-week-big-trumpet1.jpg)
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So what your all saying is,this is perfect?
(http://ra64freddy.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/bosozoku-exhaust-of-the-week-big-trumpet1.jpg)
Ha ha, the phonogram car :grin:
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(http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/ed_bewsher/Ed%20Bewsher%20063.jpg)
4-1 tubular with what may possobly look like a turbo on the end of it.
get that then you can get fussy about the downpipe, its not like most 20vt conversions use 225 motors anyway
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(http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/ed_bewsher/Ed%20Bewsher%20063.jpg)
4-1 tubular with what may possobly look like a turbo on the end of it
The molegrips add 10% across the rev range too :evil:
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If not bright enough to form an intelligent response then = your Mum
:rolleyes:
£10 says Danny and I could convert my Corrado to 1.8T for under a grand, easy.
But then, we're not mincers.
yup, i fancy a trip to the nurburg :smiley:
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Slick I hear you.
The original standard turbo manifold is the weak link on the 1.8t especially the AMK / BAM high output units. They crack easy as my mate Who did my interior has done (MJ) he is getting a better item shipped over from the states and it's on my shopping list too. Flow is not the best on standard either
But it's important not to magnify the issue by fitting a restrictive or smaller Downpipe and exhaust than what the donor car had, hence why I said in my original post a Downpipe and full exhaust will be needed (at least 2.5" from turbo back and good quality parts as you said yourself hence jetex for the exhaust and trqckslag who made my custom Downpipe)
Any less size bore than this is below what the manufacturer designed for the engines and if that was ok why didn't they fit smaller bore from the factory. I mean it's not like they don't spend ££££ developing their systems is it ?
It's laughable what Damon spouts, i thought Danny had done a 1.8t for £500 ?? :grin: go away and stick to your ABF conversions as you are out of your league here
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All i can say after reading all of this thread is :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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It's laughable what Damon spouts, i thought Danny had done a 1.8t for £500 ?? :grin: go away and stick to your ABF conversions as you are out of your league here
You have no idea, do you?
I'm sure I could pay someone to put a 1.8T in a boat, just like you did.
I could even use internet nolidge to select the best bits, as well.
I'm confident I could do a perfectly serviceable conversion, either 1.8T or an ABF turbo. Hell I've even put an Audi 2.2T into a VW Transporter.
It's not rocket science, I heard even a dimwitted DJ could do it. :grin:
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actually its you that knows f**k all, i didnt pay nobody to put the engine in, me and ben did the converison on my drive, and at the same time we put the 8v bits on the ABF car to keep that on the road.. so thats 2 cars in the space of 2 weeks
3 days to get the S3 lump mounted in my bay and running
done to a standard better/as good as any car with a 1.8T yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWr-YsCTmVo
im sure you could do it.... so could many others, im not doubting your ability or anyones, but to what standard ? and certainly not for 500 quid or even a grand.. saying stuff like this is just plain bonkers.. made yourself look a fool saying that too
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Small island mentallity again? :cry:
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:grin: yep
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actually its you that knows f**k all, i didnt pay nobody to put the engine in, me and ben did the converison on my drive,
I see what you did there. Oooh, you're cleverer than we give you credit for at times. :grin:
certainly not for 500 quid or even a grand.. saying stuff like this is just plain bonkers.. made yourself look a fool saying that too
Shows how far out of your league you are. You've done one expensive engine conversion and you know all there is to know about doing them and how much they cost. :grin:
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Everyday is a school day, so no i dont know everything, far from it actually.
but i do know it cant be done for that price and that goes for ABF Turbo too. If it could everybody would be running them
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Diamond Hell: "Haha why do people pay for a standard when we can bodge something together for mere carrots?"
Danny: "I dnt no relly, they just dnt have orr vast knolege on making track cars on budget that look like sh!te. Luky we dont have any frends so we can spend all orr tyme making sh!te which others pay for coz they have lives and the rest of the tyme we can spend talking sh!te and being arrogent twits on the internet"
Diamond Hell: "That we can, I will spend some of my time correcting grammar and spelling as it's one of my lives greatest wants, the rest I can spend insulting others and generally trying to bring down the tone on the forums. I can use my newly founded anti "your mum" comments on anything and everything completely irrelevant!
Danny: "kewl"
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Diamond Hell: "Danny, why don't I have any friends?"
Danny: "I dunno man".
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but i do know it cant be done for that price
Why not? £1500 Skoda vRS, selll all you don't need. Final cash out would be under a grand.
and that goes for ABF Turbo too.
Agreed on that one.
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but i do know it cant be done for that price
Why not? £1500 Skoda vRS, selll all you don't need. Final cash out would be under a grand.
Agreed on that one.
go try it then...lol u will see
considerd buying full S3, even breakers fetch silly money (for a good miles car) so looked at full cars non damaged, cheapest at the time were coming in just shy of 3k and they ALL had well over 125k
i wanted less than 70..
anyhow mine was alot more to do than a regular 1.8T conversion, 1.8T engines and full looms start at around 500 mark.. as i say. 2.5k to 3k minimum to do the conversion. thats what i wil cost you no matter how you do it... if you have time to sell parts then cool.. but you WILL need the bits i listed earlier in the thread plus more.
on a side note i could have very easily got a stolen car of my choice for 500 9was offered this - even a 16k miles new shape S3) and gone down that route. I did not want my car to be at all dodgey and everything is done to a high standard
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKODA-OCTAVIA-1-8-20V-TURBO-LAURIN-KLEMENT-FSH-/230664411610?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35b4ab99da
there we go 30 seconds of looking a managable miles 20vt donor and they go cheeper than that at car auctions
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKODA-OCTAVIA-1-8-20V-TURBO-LAURIN-KLEMENT-FSH-/230664411610?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35b4ab99da
there we go 30 seconds of looking a managable miles 20vt donor and they go cheeper than that at car auctions
? and ???
did i not say before they start around 500? its still gonna cost you 2.5k minimum to convert into a golf 1,2,3.. and thats if you start with a GTI in the first place
doubtfull they go cheaper at auctions as i keep an eye on it and scrap value is wworth not much less - ben just got £175 for a mk 3 bare shell full of junk!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWr-YsCTmVo
Says it all really
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWr-YsCTmVo
Says it all really
Wow, thats amazing............... Although I would say that :laugh:
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as always someones turned this thread into trash talk DH
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as always someones turned this thread into trash talk DH
Unfortunately the mods seem to tolerate his behaviour :rolleyes:
He belongs on clubgti, oh no he can't, he's banned :grin:
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as always someones turned this thread into trash talk DH
Unfortunately the mods seem to tolerate his behaviour :rolleyes:
He belongs on clubgti, oh no he can't, he's banned :grin:
yep they dont have the balls on here to do that or even question him.. i dont see what he does on this forum thats positive
He is a complete moron and the reason this forum has been laughed at on threads on other VW forums
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yet you are still here, on your second account, with 2k posts :afro:
must be love really :grin:
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yet you are still here, on your second account, with 2k posts :afro:
must be love really :grin:
To be fair Jon, when i used to behave really silly you chucked me out.
So why is DH allowed to constantly cause trouble?
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and i also thought replys like your mum was offensive and bullying, I dont take his comment as banter on MY THREAD, i find it to be abuse
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yet you are still here, on your second account, with 2k posts :afro:
must be love really :grin:
To be fair Jon, when i used to behave really silly you chucked me out.
So why is DH allowed to constantly cause trouble?
yeah and i still can't believe how you changed :grin:
as you demonstrated all those years ago, with some people, banning them just makes them come back more angry.
we can start banning people, deleting loads more stuff, then give it a while and it will be all complaints about the attitude of moderators. it's a difficult balance.
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as always someones turned this thread into trash talk DH
Unfortunately the mods seem to tolerate his behaviour :rolleyes:
He belongs on clubgti, oh no he can't, he's banned :grin:
yep they dont have the balls on here to do that or even question him.. i dont see what he does on this forum thats positive
He is a complete moron and the reason this forum has been laughed at on threads on other VW forums
Attacking the mods isn't going to help Brad.
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yet you are still here, on your second account, with 2k posts :afro:
must be love really :grin:
To be fair Jon, when i used to behave really silly you chucked me out.
So why is DH allowed to constantly cause trouble?
yeah and i still can't believe how you changed :grin:
as you demonstrated all those years ago, with some people, banning them just makes them come back more angry.
we can start banning people, deleting loads more stuff, then give it a while and it will be all complaints about the attitude of moderators. it's a difficult balance.
For what its worth Jon, i think you do a good job.
But sometimes you are too tolerant. I don't think even i used to wind up as many people as DH does, he's got it down to a fine art :grin:
Its nice that people have noticed i have changed. I take my anger out in different ways these days, not over the internet :grin:
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i would rather be tolerant than too harsh, that's always been the idea on here and still for many people we do get that humour/advice/banter balance correct but point taken :)
maybe you could train others :tongue:
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about to go training now, going to kick the shizzle out of someone, its DH's fault
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as always someones turned this thread into trash talk DH
It was dealt with when it was reported. However it seems that you just can't leave it alone. How about taking your own advice and stopping with the trash talk.
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maybe you could train others :tongue:
I'm not sure anyone would listen to me :grin:
I've just got older and more sensible, as you get older you meet more people and learn that you might have more going for you than you originally thought.
I changed karate styles earlier this year from shotokan to wado ryu, i met Sensei Ian, who is 43 and has cancer.
He never complains and just gets on with his life.
I think lots of people could do with meeting guys like Ian.
Its a sobering thought :smiley:
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about to go training now, going to kick the shizzle out of someone, its DH's fault
What style do you do?
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about to go training now, going to kick the shizzle out of someone, its DH's fault
What style do you do?
Rugby League, hooker, centre and all round utility player lol
Also in this thread how did i start the trash talk, DH piped up out of no where.
I will admit i have given sh!t out to him, but i didnt start it
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I like my whale meat with just a pinch of salt...
Some people clash, some dont
Thom
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Some people clash, some dont
This is true. However some people just go out of their way to be rude and spiteful.
As already said, banter is one thing, but too often it turns into abuse :rolleyes:
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good job i deleted 4 threads last night then :smiley:
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good job i deleted 4 threads last night then :smiley:
Really? i have missed lots of fun then :grin:
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good job i deleted 4 threads last night then :smiley:
Really? i have missed lots of fun then :grin:
Fun is not the word I'd use; its kind of sad that so many people sit behind their keyboards sprouting rubbish and throwing insults at each other
We can't read every thread. If you have a problem with something / someone then click the Report To Moderator button. Don't lower yourselves to other people's level and start new thread sprouting abuse / insults etc etc whether it be on here or other forums :rolleyes: Its not big and its not clever.
After all, we're all adults here aren't we? :huh: Maybe its time some of you started acting like one
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Oh dear, i didn't realise it got that bad.
I totally deny any involvement :tongue:
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Your all a bunch of gays for wanting/doing 1.8T conversions.
Diesel conversions is were its at :tongue:
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yet you are still here, on your second account, with 2k posts :afro:
must be love really :grin:
yeah i love it, i love the whole scene, i love messing about with cars in my spare time. i like helping others if/when i can
i was booted off for a stupid reason and you even admitted this to me in private conversations, and this was a silly comment over somebodys girlfriend. the comment in question was not even bad (another member threatened me with his GF so i asked if she would roll over me)
DH says what he likes and you let him, im not attacking you or any other mod but its really plain to see.. i know chuff is friends with him too so he also turns a blind eye to some of the ridiculous things that he says..
thiers is threads about this on other forums... i like it here, i know i can be a tw4t at times but one thing with me is i CBA with grudges. iv more than once tried to make friends with that idiot and he threw it back in my face.. he needs kicking off this site. you not doing so only makes him worse, and that is whats happening. more and more people are starting to realise.. when will you ?
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Brad, let JV deal with it, i'm sure he already has :smiley:
One thing we don't want to see is people getting banned left, right and centre.
That's one thing that has made this site a winner.
Tolerance is a good thing, i expect that a few people know that the line has been crossed recently...
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Brad, let JV deal with it, i'm sure he already has :smiley:
One thing we don't want to see is people getting banned left, right and centre.
That's one thing that has made this site a winner.
Tolerance is a good thing, i expect that a few people know that the line has been crossed recently...
yea i hear you mate :smiley:
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Meh it's just cliques and crap. I got banned for whining or whatever but not actual bullying like DH and his bumchums (Elvi) do.
I CBA to complain, either just ignore them completely or just become as childsh and use childish insults.
End of the day, when I'm out with my mates/gf I don't think about this forum or those knobends even slightly.
I'm sure they'd be completely different face to face.
My only fear of meeting them is getting smacked round the head with a keyboard.
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I like DH
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I like DH
Ask him out for a date
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Ah bless , wondered when I would get a mention :rolleyes:
I am a mod in one section only and I am sure it can be confirmed I have removed many a thread or post by DH in that section.
Forum tissues required for the boo hoo brigade :lipsrsealed:
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And for the proper keyboard wArriors who have made comments about people's wives on here,
If you had done it to me about my wife like u have about others, then you would have been visited by now. Fact.
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And for the proper keyboard wArriors who have made comments about people's wives on here,
If you had done it to me about my wife like u have about others, then you would have been visited by now. Fact.
you talking to me big man ? threats on a public forum.. my lord :grin:
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Oh dear!
I love DH!
I just hate W....
:grin:
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you talking to me big man ? threats on a public forum.. my lord :grin:
Erm funnily enough no :smiley: that is one thing I respect that u haven't done. Unlike others
And what threat ? Statement of fact, maybe. :wink:
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i was going to say, as much sh!t i sometimes say, i dont remember slating wives or kids
i take the statement back and appologise for jumping the gun :wink:
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i was going to say, as much sh!t i sometimes say, i dont remember slating wives or kids
i take the statement back and appologise for jumping the gun :wink:
No worries :wink:
but others have crossed a line, and I am sure if it was directed their way they would be the first to be kicking off about it :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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i agree..
once again, sorry for jumping the gun :wink: :smiley:
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group hug?
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You know what they say " no press, is bad press" don't even mention the fool. :lipsrsealed:
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And for the proper keyboard wArriors who have made comments about people's wives on here,
If you had done it to me about my wife like u have about others, then you would have been visited by now. Fact.
I thought this was sorted now. Well done Chuff.
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Who's been saying things about the other halves? :undecided: That's not on tbh, it's one thing calling someone something, but their other halves or kids is not right and only a d!ck would do that.
Anyway, hows about it goes back on topic?
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Will one of the mods please lock this?
All of you should really know better than this :rolleyes: