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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 14:08

Title: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 14:08
So ive replaced a worn pipe and topped up my fluid. Now need to get the air out the system, is there a simple way to do this on my driveway? Watched a few methods on Youtube  :undecided:
Title: Re: Quickest/easiest way to bleed the clutch??
Post by: nikkiy9 on 01 September 2011, 14:17
Easiest way is a two man job,
Title: Re: Quickest/easiest way to bleed the clutch??
Post by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 14:34
Easiest way is a two man job,
Thats not a problem. Do you bleed it same as the brake? Get someone to pump the pedal or hold down the pedal while the bleed valve is open??
Title: Re: Quickest/easiest way to bleed the clutch??
Post by: nikkiy9 on 01 September 2011, 14:47
Exactly like bleeding brakes, hold down, open nipple, then close nipple and pump again, dead simple
Title: Re: Quickest/easiest way to bleed the clutch??
Post by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 15:36
Ok so ive just gave that a try. There was lots of air in the pipes but now my pedal has gone even lower, its practically on the floor!! Does this sound like the master or slave cylinder has packed up??  :cry:
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: Leon27 on 01 September 2011, 16:31

They can be a pain to do, you will need to persist.

Close the nipple, pump the pedal 10x, release the nipple and operate the clutch pedal by hand if necessary about 10x. On the last one down, close the nipple. Pump it again and see if it comes up. Keep your brake fluid topped up well and repeat this about 3 times. It can take some time though.

Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 17:58

They can be a pain to do, you will need to persist.

Close the nipple, pump the pedal 10x, release the nipple and operate the clutch pedal by hand if necessary about 10x. On the last one down, close the nipple. Pump it again and see if it comes up. Keep your brake fluid topped up well and repeat this about 3 times. It can take some time though.


Ok mate, am i gonna get anywhere without a pressure bleed or am i pi$$ing in the wind abit??
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: Leon27 on 01 September 2011, 18:34

You are a bit :grin: but it is quite possible. A pressure bleeder will alleviate all the faffing though and will be faster so if you have access to one definately try it.
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 18:37

You are a bit :grin: but it is quite possible. A pressure bleeder will alleviate all the faffing though and will be faster so if you have access to one definately try it.
I dont have access yet, im stuck at work!! lol Halfords do something called eezibleed or something like that so if i get no luck i'll have to try that tomorrow
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: gasketface on 01 September 2011, 20:40
This is what you mean.Does brakes and clutch.Some cars you just cannot do without this little gem  :grin:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GUNSON-EEZIBLEED-BRAKE-CLUTCH-BLEEDING-KIT-G4062-/230655316600?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35b420d278

Another thing you might try if you have someone to help is to have one person on the pedal and the other on the nipple.Pump the pedal continuously with the nipple wide open (or removed),enough for air/fluid to pump through.Pump like mad and keep fluid topped up.Every 50 pumps or so do the nipple back up,pump it 20 times or so and retighten (repeat until you get pressure on pedal).

I had a similar problem on a Kawasaki ZXR 600 some time back (twin 4 pots).Had rebuilt calipers and refitted but every time i tried to bleed i ended up getting only 90% of the way,always felt spongy.I took both bleed nipples right out,filled master cylinder and pulled lever as fast as i could,keeping fluid topped up.Eventually fluid started spitting from where the nipples were so i put them back in and continued the normal way.Job done in a couple of minutes !.
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: RFC84 on 01 September 2011, 20:51
'Pump the pedal continuously with the nipple wide open (or removed),enough for air/fluid to pump through.Pump like mad and keep fluid topped up.Every 50 pumps or so do the nipple back up,pump it 20 times or so and retighten (repeat until you get pressure on pedal)'

I might go try this, looks like my cars gonna be stranded here at work tonight! Might be a daft question but i keep the resevoir lid off when im doing this yeah??
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: gasketface on 01 September 2011, 21:57
Yes,keep the lid of.Lid only stops it spilling when in motion and keeps dirt out,does'nt come in to the pressure side of things.

I'm off to see if i can find any info on how your system is set up.Will be back when i know more.
Title: Re: Bled the clutch....no joy
Post by: gasketface on 01 September 2011, 22:05
From what i can make out the 16v has a basic set up.I guess your master cylinder must be next to your brake master cylinder and has a pipe going from it to the slave cylinder ?.If that's correct and the pipe joining the two is fitted nice and tightly and wo'nt let air in then all you have to do now is bleed it  :grin:.

Once a system has been opened to the air it can be a pig to get it out but in time it will happen.