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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Adam88 on 24 August 2011, 16:26
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So I dont know if you guys know about this, but it is kind of sad that Apple has been suing HTC ans Samsung left right and center for patents. Kinda sad seeing they are realising they are losing out to some countries because of these phones. What makes it worse is that Apple claims that they came up with anything thing (KATE MOSS? Really?) and the square phone, really who do this company think they are.
Get worse Galaxy S and Galaxy S 2 has been banned in some countries because they use something that Apple OS 4 uses. Kinda weird when Apple was bragging about how they are using some android functions on their new OS 5.
http://www.gsmarena.com/dutch_court_bans_galaxy_s_s_ii_and_galaxy_ace_in_europe-news-3042.php
I was looking forward to the iPhone 5, but now Apple left a sour taste in my mouth and they are gong to cost too much too, only line I am going to stand in is for a White SGS2
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Didn't they sue samsung or someone then got found guilty of changing the aspect ratio on a picture to make it look more like their Ipad and thus the case got thrown out or whoever it was is counter sueing.
Funny times.
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Samsung and Apple counter sued each other. Which is funny seeing as Apple buy all their screens from Samsung, and Apple is Samsungs biggest customer :grin:
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Thats if the SGS2 doesnt get banned here :laugh:
Who cares, they will just bring out another phone with the bit they are not allowed removed. Samsung have loads of phones out, they bring a new one out every few months.
Its not like they copied them though
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54804000/jpg/_54804342_courtdocument.jpg)
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Apple are reducing themselves to the level of a patent troll at the moment.
Last time I checked the best way of out-competing the competition was to release great and innovative products, instead of trying to claim that anyone making something kinda like something you make is copying you.
Apple has ALWAYS been litigious, they're just getting worse now.
There was a load of whining from Google recently about the sale of Novell's patents - bought by Apple and Microsoft (no, seriously). Apparently Google was invited to be part of the purchase, but declined. It's all a load of bloody nonsense. These manufacturers are only paying serious money for these patents to stop actual patent trolls buying them and then figuring out who they can sue on the basis that they own the patent that someone else secured for something totally different.
America. What a crock of sh*t.
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
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The problem with intellectual property is you have to defend it and be seen to defend it otherwise you may lose your rights to do so in the future.
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I tried moving away from Apple when my old 3G "broke". The Samsung Galaxy S I got instead was sh1te though, and the Blackberry's were all gash, so it was an iPhone 4 in the end. Can't complain too much, nothing comes close to it overall.
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The BlackBerry Curves were pretty horrible things, but the Bolds are epic!
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
How? It isnt out yet i thought? Well there site seems to think its not.
http://uk.blackberry.com/devices/blackberrybold9900.jsp (http://uk.blackberry.com/devices/blackberrybold9900.jsp)
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Innovation. Rather than knock off Apple's products, actually come up with some ideas. Apple have been totally out competing the competition, then got bored with all the rest taking the p!ss so much. Come on Samsung, does a phone have to look exactly like Apple say so? What's that, the home button needs to be exactly there Mr HTC? Oh a tablet you say? Oh yes, lets make one of those in the image of the 'fondleslab' now that Apple have 'invented' the market place for us.
Google on those recent patents, bid the value of pi for them. Come on now children.
Fight the power, Nokia 6210 for the home win.
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
How? It isnt out yet i thought? Well there site seems to think its not.
http://uk.blackberry.com/devices/blackberrybold9900.jsp (http://uk.blackberry.com/devices/blackberrybold9900.jsp)
I have it in my hand as i type... the new keyboard is fantastic!! could happily write a dissertation on the thing. So far so good.... no problems and with the new 1.2hz processor in there and OS7... you really couldnt ask for a better phone.
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^ send me one now! haha
how'd you get hold of one dude? Im thinking of replacing my bold 9780 with one when they come out.
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
Good luck with it after the impending likely buy-out:
http://www.vision2mobile.com/news/2011/08/rim-takeover-more-likely-in-wake-of-google-motoro.aspx
Blackberrys are just for rioters these days, aren't they?
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Is this the same RIM that has no debt and sitting on a mountain of cash?
:rolleyes:
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
Good luck with it after the impending likely buy-out:
http://www.vision2mobile.com/news/2011/08/rim-takeover-more-likely-in-wake-of-google-motoro.aspx
Blackberrys are just for rioters these days, aren't they?
i dont follow the hype... i just want a phone that does what a phone should do. nothing better out there at the moment
buy out or no buy out.. doesnt really change the handset though does it?? :huh:
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^ send me one now! haha
how'd you get hold of one dude? Im thinking of replacing my bold 9780 with one when they come out.
they are now available on most networks. i upgraded from the 9780... which was good. this is in another league. :wink:
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^ send me one now! haha
how'd you get hold of one dude? Im thinking of replacing my bold 9780 with one when they come out.
they are now available on most networks. i upgraded from the 9780... which was good. this is in another league. :wink:
haha yeah after further googling it appears they are out! BB need to update there site :grin:
Now to find out when im due an upgrade...
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This is probably an outdated diagram but it highlights the problem all these mobile companies are facing.
(http://tftscdn.nexus404.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads2/2010/03/patent-lawsuits.jpg)
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My thoughts on the subject, I've read quite a bit about this and the whole mobile industry has pissed me off.
The whole American patent system is FUBAR and imo it's nailed a new niche market for laywers to make a fortune by keeping themselves in a job and 'forcing' companies to sue each other.
Samsung products barely resemble the Apples but I can sort of if I squint A LOT see a similarity, Apple are just scared that someone is competing quite well. Apple bring out the ipad2 which is f@cking thin, Samsung outdo them BUT it takes along time to design a product and Samsung couldn't have got a slimmer tablet out that quick. Jules, that pic comparing the SGS ui and iphone ui is of the home screen filled with apps, the only similarity I can see if the green phone icon. Lots of phones have used green phone icons on the left hand side of the phone, even those with real buttons. Hardly an Apple innovation.
Slick is correct and Apple were found to have distorted the image of the SGT and the EU wide ban was temporary lifted, this is also an EU ban which was authorised by some 2bit poxy German court that had NO powers to force a EU wide ban, so the EU ban was completely removed and it's only enforced in Germany and even then I think it's not the whole of Germany and only the jurisdiction the court can enforce it's powaz.
Google have just bought Motorola Mobility, which secures them 17,000 current patents and a further 7,000 pending patents and they say they'll only use to defend Android and it's OEM partners, which is fair enough. They did lie about and continue to lie about Apple and Microsoft being out to destroy Android, a Micosoft exec put up a blog with a copy of the emails between MS and G, where G declined the offer of being in on the patent bids with the big boys. Google lost a load of +1's from me.
Apple steal a bunch of features from Android for iOS5 and it gets hailed as revolutionary, amazing, innovative... Give me strength Apple, you DARE copy Android then go about suing competitors for 'copying' you? pfft, that is beyond lame.
My beloved HTC are not being too naughty, and have bought some companies for their patents to defend against Apple. Their big buy out was S3 which had a load of patents which they couldn't defend because they had no money. HTC have money.
BT owned a patent in the US (and other countries) for the links you use on ALL web pages, this was overturned, like many of these patent claims should be.
Nokia? They'll be bought by Microsoft soon enough, they've already dumped Symbian and MeeGo for Win Phone7 and the current top dog of Nokia are ex-Microsoft exec's.
RIM. they may be sitting on a pile of cash, but they're loosing market share quicker than diarrhoea can fly out your arse. Even at work lots of clients have moved to iphone/Android.
haha yeah after further googling it appears they are out! BB need to update there site :grin:
Typical BB, always behind even with their own product launches :rolleyes:
I just want them all to cross license their patents, fire the majority of the patent lawyers and get on with making great devices.
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I tried moving away from Apple when my old 3G "broke". The Samsung Galaxy S I got instead was sh1te though, and the Blackberry's were all gash, so it was an iPhone 4 in the end. Can't complain too much, nothing comes close to it overall.
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enough said
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I tried moving away from Apple when my old 3G "broke". The Samsung Galaxy S I got instead was sh1te though, and the Blackberry's were all gash, so it was an iPhone 4 in the end. Can't complain too much, nothing comes close to it overall.
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enough said
iPhones are great if you want to do exactly what Apple want you to do and you're contented to be herded.
BB's have had dreadful reviews for some time, but writing off the whole Android segment on the back of one experience is pretty much Apple fanboi territory.
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Why are you so uncool?
:rolleyes:
Only to those of limited intellect. Posting anything in a thread about mobile phones is deeply uncool to a chavvy little scrote.
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(http://babyanimalz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/funny-motivational-posters-lol.jpg)
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From what ive found is that androids and iphones have dreadful battery life, and to me i want a phone that can last more than a day on charge, hence one of the reasons why i have a bold at the moment. Yes you can all say they are behind android/iphone etc, but they arnt designed to do the same thing. They are there to do what the phone was invented for, communication...
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I get 2 days out of my phone :cool:
If I don't use it :grin:
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Apple must be scared, I've seen 3 iphone adverts in less than half an hour on the same channel. during the same show.
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One name,
Dieter Rams
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Why are you so uncool?
:rolleyes:
Only to those of limited intellect. Posting anything in a thread about mobile phones is deeply uncool to a chavvy little scrote.
As is humour to an arrogant farmer.
I have an HTC Desire, it does what I want it to. Personally, I don't care if it was a rip off iPhone or that HTC sued my mother, it does what I want it to so I'm happy.
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Well this'll please some of the Apple haters.. Jobs has resigned as CEO and will now be chairman.
Not sure if this'll have any real implications though, hey ho! :)
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Who the hell went through this place and deleted all my fantastic posts??
... tbh I dont really care who did, could you please pop over the mk6 board also. thx :cool:
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Who the hell went through this place and deleted all my fantastic posts??
AHHHHHH have a cuddle
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
Nice pity its f**king ugly as sin!! they ruined the bold with that design IMO
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My thoughts on the subject, I've read quite a bit about this and the whole mobile industry has pissed me off.
The whole American patent system is FUBAR and imo it's nailed a new niche market for laywers to make a fortune by keeping themselves in a job and 'forcing' companies to sue each other.
Samsung products barely resemble the Apples but I can sort of if I squint A LOT see a similarity, Apple are just scared that someone is competing quite well. Apple bring out the ipad2 which is f@cking thin, Samsung outdo them BUT it takes along time to design a product and Samsung couldn't have got a slimmer tablet out that quick. Jules, that pic comparing the SGS ui and iphone ui is of the home screen filled with apps, the only similarity I can see if the green phone icon. Lots of phones have used green phone icons on the left hand side of the phone, even those with real buttons. Hardly an Apple innovation.
Slick is correct and Apple were found to have distorted the image of the SGT and the EU wide ban was temporary lifted, this is also an EU ban which was authorised by some 2bit poxy German court that had NO powers to force a EU wide ban, so the EU ban was completely removed and it's only enforced in Germany and even then I think it's not the whole of Germany and only the jurisdiction the court can enforce it's powaz.
Google have just bought Motorola Mobility, which secures them 17,000 current patents and a further 7,000 pending patents and they say they'll only use to defend Android and it's OEM partners, which is fair enough. They did lie about and continue to lie about Apple and Microsoft being out to destroy Android, a Micosoft exec put up a blog with a copy of the emails between MS and G, where G declined the offer of being in on the patent bids with the big boys. Google lost a load of +1's from me.
Apple steal a bunch of features from Android for iOS5 and it gets hailed as revolutionary, amazing, innovative... Give me strength Apple, you DARE copy Android then go about suing competitors for 'copying' you? pfft, that is beyond lame.
My beloved HTC are not being too naughty, and have bought some companies for their patents to defend against Apple. Their big buy out was S3 which had a load of patents which they couldn't defend because they had no money. HTC have money.
BT owned a patent in the US (and other countries) for the links you use on ALL web pages, this was overturned, like many of these patent claims should be.
Nokia? They'll be bought by Microsoft soon enough, they've already dumped Symbian and MeeGo for Win Phone7 and the current top dog of Nokia are ex-Microsoft exec's.
RIM. they may be sitting on a pile of cash, but they're loosing market share quicker than diarrhoea can fly out your arse. Even at work lots of clients have moved to iphone/Android.
haha yeah after further googling it appears they are out! BB need to update there site :grin:
Typical BB, always behind even with their own product launches :rolleyes:
I just want them all to cross license their patents, fire the majority of the patent lawyers and get on with making great devices.
+1
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As is humour to an arrogant farmer.
What? That doesn't even make sense as an insult.
Especially as I'm not a farmer. I work in IT, numpty.
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I don't understand why people get so obsessed by hating Apple get over it, who cares who is suing who. They just like to keep their lawyers in work lol
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i have the new blackberry 9900... the phone kicks a$$! why anyone would want to own anything from apple is beyond me
Nice pity its f**king ugly as sin!! they ruined the bold with that design IMO
Not sure what u mean by ruined the bold... There isn't much difference between the 9780 and the 9900, with the later being slightly wider and taller to accomodate the touch screen. Its much nicer to hold than the 9780 and is the thinest blackberry yet.. Etto
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The King is dead....long live the King.
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As is humour to an arrogant farmer.
What? That doesn't even make sense as an insult.
Especially as I'm not a farmer. I work in IT, numpty.
Woops, sorry I haven't spent my free time researching your lifestyle. I saw a picture of a tractor and a shed, I thought farmer.
Once I've completed the things more important to me in my to-do list, I'll start stalking you. I haven't even got to "watching paint dry" so I have no idea when "Showing interest in some random farmers IT workers presence" will come up.
Sorry. :sad:
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Woops, sorry I haven't spent my free time researching your lifestyle. I saw a picture of a tractor and a shed, I thought farmer.
Once I've completed the things more important to me in my to-do list, I'll start stalking you. I haven't even got to "watching paint dry" so I have no idea when "Showing interest in some random farmers IT workers presence" will come up.
Sorry. :sad:
Yet you still found the time and a slot on your list to come on here, read what DH said, and justify your comments in a reply.
Lets face it, he's your secret crush. :kiss:
Hoist by your own petard!
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Woops, sorry I haven't spent my free time researching your lifestyle. I saw a picture of a tractor and a shed, I thought farmer.
It's OK, you can admit you're just repeating something you once saw Brad post.
Yet you still found the time and a slot on your list to come on here, read what DH said, and justify your comments in a reply.
...which might as well have read 'your Mum', as ever.
:grin:
Lets face it, he's your secret crush.
I get so much of this you wouldn't believe.
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Especially as I'm not a farmer. I'm an IT numpty.
You sure are :grin:
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Woops, sorry I haven't spent my free time researching your lifestyle. I saw a picture of a tractor and a shed, I thought farmer.
It's OK, you can admit you're just repeating something you once saw Brad post.
Complete cock up of a quote but this HTC won't type where it says its going to. should have bought an iPhone......
Actually, again you're wrong. I thought it all up myself. Made myself chuckle anyway.
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Yet you still found the time and a slot on your list to come on here, read what DH said, and justify your comments in a reply.
Justify. So you're just agreeing with me then. :smug:
Note the big two hour gap between my posts, this is because I'm at work, on tea break on a phone, which, is massive effort to post on compared to a PC. Keeping myself slightly occupied.
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A lot of people in this thread need to chill the f*ck out and get laid :grin: