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General => Detailing => Topic started by: Joseph on 23 August 2011, 12:18
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I have just purchased some new products (ty waxamomo) for my first detail. Quite nervous actually incase i do any damage.
born slippy and supernatural clay.
Poorboys black hole glaze
jetseal 109 i have already.
dodjuice lime prime
purple haze pro wax
How long should i wait between applying the different products? Should i clay glaze and seal one day perhaps and then lime p and wax the next?
Thanks
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Good order, I will need pictures to follow BTW... :tongue:
I have never used PB BH glaze or jetseal 109, when I do a pretty big clean I wash, clay, wash, dry, lime prime it (by hand) and then use DJ wax over the top. For me this takes 4 hours if I don't stop for a cupa! With those products I have mentioned I don't pause at all. After the LP I will give it a little wipe down but then it is straight on with the wax! Hope this help!
...don't forget pictures :smiley:
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Good order, I will need pictures to follow BTW... :tongue:
I have never used PB BH glaze or jetseal 109, when I do a pretty big clean I wash, clay, wash, dry, lime prime it (by hand) and then use DJ wax over the top. For me this takes 4 hours if I don't stop for a cupa! With those products I have mentioned I don't pause at all. After the LP I will give it a little wipe down but then it is straight on with the wax! Hope this help!
...don't forget pictures :smiley:
pictures will follow.
Thanks. Do you think i should wait after sealing at least?
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With the products you have there it sounds like you may have to wait a bit in between coats of the different product. I think the correct order for you to use those products in would be, clay, LP, glaze, seal, wax...I would give it maybe the time to make a tea and sarnie between the sealant and wax...but from the LP to glaze just give it a wipe over and a quick 5. With the sealant think it says 20mins between coats...I am sure someone far more qualified to speak will be along shortly to put us both right ( I am still new to this detailing too!) :laugh:
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pretty sure you wanna leave the js109 for 20 mins to cure,
with the black hole just work it for as long as it needs, then wipe (what i do anyway)
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good advice so far chaps
your order would be
rinse
wash
rinse
clay
rinse
dry
polish
glaze
seal
seal
wax
wax
the only time you would have to leave a gap is inbetween wax coats... give it about 24hrs to cure.. if its in a garage then there will be no need to give it a quick wash before you wax again
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good advice so far chaps
your order would be
rinse
wash
rinse
clay
rinse
dry
polish
glaze
seal
seal
wax
wax
the only time you would have to leave a gap is inbetween wax coats... give it about 24hrs to cure.. if its in a garage then there will be no need to give it a quick wash before you wax again
thanks, i bought the lime prime thinking this was required after sealent before wax. Is the incorrect? if so, when do i use this product?
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LP is like a 'paint cleanser', but classed as polish I believe. So slot the LP in where it says polish!!
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LP is like a 'paint cleanser', but classed as polish I believe. So slot the LP in where it says polish!!
excellent, thanks
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LP is like a 'paint cleanser', but classed as polish I believe. So slot the LP in where it says polish!!
excellent, thanks
Thats correct, LP goes where it says polish......Scarrs spot on.
The only thing I would add is this.... Put the products on lightly, less is more when it comes to these products. Just ensure you apply them evenly. If your using a foam applicator to apply the wax I suggest you dampen the applicator and apply in thin layers. Apply it too think and its hard work to remove, trust me :rolleyes: I applied it thick the first time I used wax and it took ages to remove.
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LP is like a 'paint cleanser', but classed as polish I believe. So slot the LP in where it says polish!!
excellent, thanks
Thats correct, LP goes where it says polish......Scarrs spot on.
The only thing I would add is this.... Put the products on lightly, less is more when it comes to these products. Just ensure you apply them evenly. If your using a foam applicator to apply the wax I suggest you dampen the applicator and apply in thin layers. Apply it too think and its hard work to remove, trust me :rolleyes: I applied it thick the first time I used wax and it took ages to remove.
I am a bit confused. The bottle says it creates the perfect surface for wax application which is why i thought it should be used pre wax stage after sealent.
However, if you guys think its the polish stage then ill give it a go
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Basically yes. It does create a fantastically clean and very smooth surface for a good layer of wax, wait til you feel the glass like results! :smiley: You plan to then use a glaze and then a sealant and then a wax. This is a very very thorough detail by the sounds of things! The LP will be good before you apply the glaze. If you used the LP after the glaze and then sealant it would pretty much strip off all of the hard work you put in, especially if you will be using the LP with micro abrasives in... :smiley:
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Basically yes. It does create a fantastically clean and very smooth surface for a good layer of wax, wait til you feel the glass like results! :smiley: You plan to then use a glaze and then a sealant and then a wax. This is a very very thorough detail by the sounds of things! The LP will be good before you apply the glaze. If you used the LP after the glaze and then sealant it would pretty much strip off all of the hard work you put in, especially if you will be using the LP with micro abrasives in... :smiley:
ok thanks. that is what i shall do.
wash clay lime glaze seal and then purple haze it. looking back at a pre order email waxamomo had suggested the lime prime as a polish so...
thanks for all the help. I need a nice sunny day.
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Not too sunny! Its best NOT to apply these products onto a hot panel....... The ideal detailing weather is a normal day, overcast but with no chance of rain :smiley:
Applying most products to a hot panel can cause them to "bake" on which can make them very difficult to remove.
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Not too sunny! Its best NOT to apply these products onto a hot panel....... The ideal detailing weather is a normal day, overcast but with no chance of rain :smiley:
Applying most products to a hot panel can cause them to "bake" on which can make them very difficult to remove.
Understood. Thank you
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Most product labels say apply to a cool surface in the shade if possible......
In the summer I wash my car late at night, just when the sun's going down but its still light. I hose the car down with cold water to ensure all the panels are cool then when Im happy they are I can start with the snow foam etc etc
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you dont want to be applying lp if your using black hole they do the same job.
i would put black hole under jetseal as it is less oily than lime prime and the jesteal will sit better on it?
clay polish and seal will be plenty.. but a layer or 2 of wax will help durabilty but not add a great deal to the finish.
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stupid question alert...
up to now ive thought the sealant went over the wax, to lock it in, but saying that, isnt wax meant to be a 'sealant'?
i can understand sealing in the gloss coat, but if you then use sealant, whats the point of wax? :huh:
:undecided:
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in basic terms sealant and wax are to protect the finish left by the polish or glaze.
you can...
polish/glaze
seal
or...
polish/glaze
wax
or...
polish/glaze
seal
wax
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in basic terms sealant and wax are to protect the finish left by the polish or glaze.
you can...
polish/glaze
seal
or...
polish/glaze
wax
or...
polish/glaze
seal
wax
Doing the latter here will just give you ultimate protection. So when the wax wears through the sealant will still be around to offer some beadage!