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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: dean07 on 22 August 2011, 18:49

Title: Stop/start
Post by: dean07 on 22 August 2011, 18:49
Will the 61 plate Gti come with it? Have it on my Bmw and like it a lot
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Steve30 on 22 August 2011, 19:10
To my knowledge dont thinks this is an option ??  :undecided:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: bobotheclown on 22 August 2011, 19:47
Bluemotion GTI, stranger things could happen, look at the MK6 cabriolet  :laugh:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Jimble on 22 August 2011, 20:20
God i hope not!! You want an economy golf, get a GTD! :evil:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Jimmymature on 22 August 2011, 20:47
God i hope not!! You want an economy golf, get a GTD! :evil:

I'd bet my house that the MK7 GTI has stop/stop.

Jim
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: mortygt140 on 29 August 2011, 19:30
Only a fool would have stop/start function :angry: on a high performance turbo car?

Image you have just polishing the loud pedal for a good 15 minutes and come to a set of traffic lights...your car stops the engine and also stops the turbo circulating the oil very suddenly :cry: its a recipe for disaster.

Darren
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Steve30 on 29 August 2011, 20:32
The new Tigaun has it  :grin:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Jimmymature on 29 August 2011, 21:23
Only a fool would have stop/start function :angry: on a high performance turbo car?

Image you have just polishing the loud pedal for a good 15 minutes and come to a set of traffic lights...your car stops the engine and also stops the turbo circulating the oil very suddenly :cry: its a recipe for disaster.

Darren


I don't see new coming out without it now, they will think of a way to fix possible issues.  My mate is very senior in R&D in Garret, I'll ask his views  :wink:


Jim
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Ess_Three on 29 August 2011, 21:37
Only a fool would have stop/start function :angry: on a high performance turbo car?

Image you have just polishing the loud pedal for a good 15 minutes and come to a set of traffic lights...your car stops the engine and also stops the turbo circulating the oil very suddenly :cry: its a recipe for disaster.

Darren

Turbo heat and oil circulation is easy enough overcome by electric run on pumps...and the GTI isn't exactly 'high performance' is it, compared to the likes of the current M3..and it's got Stop/start.
no reason why not to have it..you can always turn it off.
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Keithuk on 30 August 2011, 10:19
Its supposedly done for emissions where people are stuck in traffic most of the time. You don't gain much advantage in fuel con as when you crank the engine over which takes energy out of the battery the alternator works harder to charge the battery back up which puts extra load on the engine so you don't really save much fuel.

If you have this stupid feature you can always turn it off its not compulsary?
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: RickS on 30 August 2011, 13:14
Only a fool would have stop/start function :angry: on a high performance turbo car?

Image you have just polishing the loud pedal for a good 15 minutes and come to a set of traffic lights...your car stops the engine and also stops the turbo circulating the oil very suddenly :cry: its a recipe for disaster.

Darren

On cars that have this feature the engine doesn't stop unless you put the car in neutral and release the clutch as far as I know. So in the scenario above you would leave it in gear and the engine wouldn't stop.
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: The Doc on 30 August 2011, 13:42
I hate auto stop start  :sick:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Exonian on 30 August 2011, 15:43
I used to stall my GTI quite often, does that count?
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Ess_Three on 30 August 2011, 19:06
Its supposedly done for emissions where people are stuck in traffic most of the time. You don't gain much advantage in fuel con as when you crank the engine over which takes energy out of the battery the alternator works harder to charge the battery back up which puts extra load on the engine so you don't really save much fuel.

Not so...that's why stop/start systems generally have 'recouperation' where they use otherwise wasted energy from braking to charge the battery.
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 30 August 2011, 19:16
I hate auto stop start  :sick:
................same here,can't think of anything worse.
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: AndyC on 30 August 2011, 19:23
I hate auto stop start  :sick:
................same here,can't think of anything worse.

My company car KIA Ceed has it and it drives me nuts :sick:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: C3PO on 30 August 2011, 20:57
if you like the stop start so much, just turn the key at each set of lights :evil:

That way you will have a great car, plus the feature you like :huh:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Ess_Three on 30 August 2011, 22:23
Just turn it off if you don't like it.
Jeez...it's not hard!
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Keithuk on 30 August 2011, 23:29
Its supposedly done for emissions where people are stuck in traffic most of the time. You don't gain much advantage in fuel con as when you crank the engine over which takes energy out of the battery the alternator works harder to charge the battery back up which puts extra load on the engine so you don't really save much fuel.

Not so...that's why stop/start systems generally have 'recouperation' where they use otherwise wasted energy from braking to charge the battery.
Well I'm sure VW don't use that system?
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Ess_Three on 31 August 2011, 00:06

Well I'm sure VW don't use that system?

"The innovative start/stop system turns the engine off when you're idling in traffic and restarts it when you're ready to move while the recuperation mechanism uses some energy usually lost during braking and deceleration to pass additional charge to the battery. The outside of this range is equally as crafted as the inside: from the low rolling resistant tyres which reduce road friction to the specifically designed aerodynamic styling, BlueMotion means less fuel consumption, lower emissions and a better driving experience."

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/efficiency-and-bluemotion-technologies

Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: mortygt140 on 31 August 2011, 06:57
Only a fool would have stop/start function :angry: on a high performance turbo car?

Image you have just polishing the loud pedal for a good 15 minutes and come to a set of traffic lights...your car stops the engine and also stops the turbo circulating the oil very suddenly :cry: its a recipe for disaster.

Darren

Turbo heat and oil circulation is easy enough overcome by electric run on pumps...and the GTI isn't exactly 'high performance' is it, compared to the likes of the current M3..and it's got Stop/start.
no reason why not to have it..you can always turn it off.

The M3 doesn't have a turbo, I'm not sure. I think I would still class it has an high performance golf???
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: The Doc on 31 August 2011, 08:39
The bad thing with the current M3 is that you have to turn off the start/stop every time you start the car - most annoying  :angry:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Steve30 on 31 August 2011, 16:34
The bad thing with the current M3 is that you have to turn off the start/stop every time you start the car - most annoying  :angry:

Nice Sig Doc  :wink:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: The Doc on 31 August 2011, 18:52
The bad thing with the current M3 is that you have to turn off the start/stop every time you start the car - most annoying  :angry:

Nice Sig Doc  :wink:

Ta love, it was made for me by a forum member  :wink:
Title: Re: Stop/start
Post by: Snoopy on 01 September 2011, 12:09
Breaks the forum size rules though tut tut