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Title: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: stevolution on 18 August 2011, 00:23
I seen the kits on eBay and they seem really really cheap, I'm all for you get what you pay for but can anyone tell me if it's a possible place to start and upgrade certain items eventually along the way?

How do you go about changing compression?

1 other question, where do most people put their
Intercoolers?
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Wayne on 18 August 2011, 08:06
No such thing as a cheap conversion, better to fit a 1.8t
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: shepgti on 18 August 2011, 09:08
or just buy a faster car...
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: t0pgunner on 18 August 2011, 15:09
or just buy a faster car...

or a vr6 (one thats already supercharged)  :wink:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: F17BAD on 18 August 2011, 21:51
Intercooler goes here

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8992/img1320gu.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: AlexMozza on 18 August 2011, 22:13
Intercooler goes here

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8992/img1320gu.jpg)

Like nearly all turbo cars!
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: F17BAD on 18 August 2011, 22:18
^^  Yep  :grin:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: WadGTI on 18 August 2011, 23:08
Nice  :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Wayne on 18 August 2011, 23:18

Like nearly all turbo cars!


Some are side mounted plus you can get custom side mounts that flow and cool the same as a front mount.
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: dom on 19 August 2011, 00:23

Like nearly all turbo cars!


Some are side mounted plus you can get custom side mounts that flow and cool the same as a front mount.

Water/Meth injection is also an option to increase cooling :wink:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: stevolution on 20 August 2011, 01:51
I understand that it's maybe not necessarily going to be cheap on long run. Trouble is I've really bonded with my wee golf.  I also really like the wolf in sheeps clothing aspect too.   Fitting the 1.8t is not a bad idea but then I'll lose that magnificent sound for a start, I also don't fancy locating decent engine the organising a swap.

I know there are vr6 turbos out there just wondered if anyone here had done it.

I can't imagine these kits can be too far off the mark as a turbo system is a relatively modest design, if someone could tell me why these kits at a grand are bad I'll be all eyes.

I dont know where you would fit an intercooler on a car that's not designed for one, yes front is ideal but of course they are not always at the front, in my experience more often they are fitted elsewhere. For instance, my vw caddy, transporter, fiat coupe, pulsar and impreza never featured fmic.

Buy a faster car, yes that would be cheaper but that's not what I'm looking for.  I've owned around 8 or 9 evos and a couple of skylines in my time, I know that would be easier but I just fancy something that ticks all the boxes for me. Also tired of transmission loss with 4wd, great for the quarter mile but not essential for knockhill. I could buy an Evo 2 for 1700 bucks, few adjustments, few things in the skip and it's an easy 260bhp/tonne but I fancy a fast golf.

While I'm here, can anyone recommend a poly bush kit?

Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Wayne on 20 August 2011, 08:59
I know there are vr6 turbos out there just wondered if anyone here had done it.

I can't imagine these kits can be too far off the mark as a turbo system is a relatively modest design, if someone could tell me why these kits at a grand are bad I'll be all eyes.

Yes but by the time you add all the extras including standalone managment it will not be cheap.

I dont know where you would fit an intercooler on a car that's not designed for one, yes front is ideal but of course they are not always at the front, in my experience more often they are fitted elsewhere. For instance, my vw caddy, transporter, fiat coupe, pulsar and impreza never featured fmic.

Very easy to fit one on the front, side mount is another option.
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: MotorPsycho on 20 August 2011, 09:15
Turbo kit cheap

Standalone management
Low comp forged pistons
Uprated rods
Uprated clutch
Uprated brakes

Expensive, you can't just bolt on a turbo and make 300bhp :) I really wouldn't buy cheap either it'll end up costing a lot more in the long run
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Seanl on 20 August 2011, 09:40
I think the whole ebay turbo thing is a bad idea because; there will be no real warranty on it, its probably made in a garden shed or at best, a small unit somewhere, and made with the cheapest materials and be poorly built. It will have had no/minimal testing, you will be stuck when they go bust and/or stop trading (and they will guaranteed), therefore any problems, and you will have to get it custom rebuilt at a much higher cost. Using an existing turbo or supercharger that has been in production on other cars, or one from a known specialists is by far the better option. You have evidence that it is reliable, and have spares readily available.

Powerflex bushes are used alot and well thought of on here. 25% discount I think if you have a look in the forum traders page.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: VW BUSH on 20 August 2011, 14:56
Intercooler goes here

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8992/img1320gu.jpg)

You need that sig picture updated with the IC on show, same angle but with a little chrome showing :cool:

Sorry to hijack the thread just to polish Kells motor off, truly awsome Mk3
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 20 August 2011, 19:25
I think kells lucked out with fitting his fmic though I dont know of anyone else that fitted it as easily as he did :P I had to cut a bit off my bumper fins and also cut the rad fan mounts on the drivers side so the fan could be pushed back a bit. This is probably as bad as it could be though most people do either or, still would be some kind of cutting involved though :)

If you wanna see whats involved on turboing an abf have a look at tshirt2k build thread, but tbh I dont think theres that much in it work wise between turboing what you already have and fitting a 1.8t, and I'd imagine you could find a lot more info and get more help from experienced people with the 1.8t build
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: madmanmart on 20 August 2011, 20:07
Does'nt Cheap + Turbo + Ebay, ring any alarm bells?
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Wayne on 20 August 2011, 22:01
Does'nt Cheap + Turbo + Ebay, ring any alarm bells?

Well it should do  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 August 2011, 22:34
Intercooler goes here

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8992/img1320gu.jpg)
That front end is nails :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: stevolution on 21 August 2011, 10:29
Thanks for all the feedback guys, i do appreciate it. you've given me a lot to think about.   I'm probably quite rightly swaying away from the turbo idea, I take it the supercharger option is much more viable? I'll get a search on the go.
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: forsh on 21 August 2011, 14:21
ebay turbo kit and there nasty manifold = dead vr6
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: F17BAD on 21 August 2011, 20:40
cheers for complimets for those that mentioned my car  :smiley:

fitting the front mount without hacking my bumper to bits so it didnt look OEM required modification to the rear panel and also the rear of the bumper, but this is 100% not noticable from looking at the car

I even have those black plastic fin trims clipped onto the little fins still :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone here turbo?
Post by: tshirt2k on 22 August 2011, 10:54
This is only possible if you dont have an AC rad in there too. :wink:

Only problem with a supercharged Vr, Is the centrifugal chargers only add torque/power at the top of the rev range. So you don't get the typical low down grunt associated with superchargers. You can get around 270hp from one but its possible to get quite a bit of power from very low boost on a vr, with a correctly sized turbo.

I've seen somewhere that someone made a good turbo manifold using the existing manifold with DP removed. Was a bolt on adaption.