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Title: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 16 April 2005, 16:01
I'm doing my brakes & suspension within two weeks on my mk3 16v,

I'll be then hungry and ready for more power. What is the order of work for a decent engine tune and approx. bhp (and cost!)

ie,
induction kit  +1 bhp?
exhaust        + 5 bhp?
chip             + 20 bhp?
...etc.
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 24 April 2005, 11:56
Read this...  :wink:


http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=18509.0
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 25 April 2005, 09:12
Yep, gonna get the old golf 'chipped up' soon.  :huh:

After that some head polishing & porting.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 25 April 2005, 19:09
Where you havin that done and how much?
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 25 April 2005, 23:38
Not price it up yet but I was expecting the £350 sort of price including rolling road set-up.

Places near me are:

ABP in Crewe (Superchips dealer I think) ...I always think everything there is a little overpriced though.
or AP Performance in Leek, Staffordshire (which is where I work so 5 mins down the road)
Probably one or two other places around Macclesfield, I'm not sure.

Will be in about 6 weeks time after my hols and everything + I've spent far too much dosh this month, doing everything else on the old Golf!
I only originally bought it as a cheap runaround!
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 25 April 2005, 23:59
This is AP Performance website, I've heard good things about them but never been there before. http://www.ap-performance.com/

Their Audi project car, below, for sale which I see some mornings going to work.

If you look at the bodykits page, they do some wicked golf kits. The full range.

(http://www.ap-performance.com/ap2/carpics/TT/tt5.jpg)
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 26 April 2005, 12:35
Oh wicked... i'm living in Leek at the mo when i'm back from Uni, normally live in Biddulph Park!

I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for ya, Mk3 16v? U got pics? + when i want a port and polish i know where to go  :wink:

Was that TT bought from a garage in Congleton near the Pug garage? They had 5 yellow ones just like that... they when v.quick!
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 26 April 2005, 13:51
Small World !!!

I live in Buxton, work in Leek.

To be honest, I don't know much about the TT or AP performance but will take a trip down there at Leekbrook in a few weeks to have a chat.

I'm certainly no trained mechanic but through experience can do most things on cars, and have built and been mechanic with a mk2 Escort (with 150bhp 16v Vauxhall) rally car. Helping my mate soon do a Dimma Pug 205 conversion with Scooby engine and floorpan!  I've spent loads of time on the Golf just this last week fitting soundproof, stereo, brakes, bushes, gaskets, etc and sorting out little problems.

If u see it next it will be on Audi S-line 17's, lowered and private plate '295 EPG'. Plate doesn't mean anything, just picked it up cheap for less than £300 transferred.

Only trouble is, our green GTI's will look too much alike soon! ...time for a re-spray!!!
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 26 April 2005, 16:47
Buxton, some wicked road up there... drive them all the time cos i'm at uni in sheffield!  :evil:

My gti's purple so we shouldn't have a prob... unless you're respraying your purple?!  :laugh:

Just rang ABP in crewe, £305 fitted (superchip) but no rollers...The guy said i wouldn't need to have it set up, how can it be set up propperly if its not put on rollers? Think i'll make the journey to Oxford to AmD Technik  :shocked:
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 26 April 2005, 17:39
Yeah plenty of top notch roads around here, too many bikers and Derbyshire thingystabulary to watch out for though!

Maybe he's right, in theory, about the setup but I've never trusted ABP, couple of minor bad experiences with them with parts, but I can't slag them off too much really. Think they'd be alright installing a superchip. What BHP, etc does it give? I definatly want over 170bhp cos my cars too slow at the moment (well I'd like over 200 really! not asking much)
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 26 April 2005, 23:20
Well a guy on the clubgti forum had a Mk1 with an ABF 16v lump in... standard apart from exhaust, induction kit and chip and he had it running 182bhp... anywhere near there i'll be happy!

If i get serious into tuning this motor i will ultimately be looking at a supercharger or turbo... lots of money but wouldn't be too bad doing it DIY stylee! I have a t25 available for recon off of the 200sx, would give a good bar which is enough... this  year coming is gonna be interesting!

How you thinking of reachin 200bhp+ ??
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 27 April 2005, 13:26
Ultimatley I think the cheapest way for big performance would be to put 20v 1.8 turbo in it and just chip it I reckon.

But for close to 200+ bhp from the ABF, the exhaust/manifold, induction filter, mild cam, chip, polished/ported head in my opinion would do it. + a lightened flywheel for better acceleration.

Done all that on a couple of Vauxhall 16V's with great results.
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 27 April 2005, 17:38
Think i'll see how much i can get out of my ABF first... gonna be a daily driver but should still be rather fun!!  :cool:
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 28 April 2005, 11:22
just contacted Ap-performance.com. -Chip & Tune for 25 - 30 bhp is £225 + VAT

Half a tank of fuel required for full setup  :shocked:

Seem like top blokes and a good workshop. Going on holiday next week in the car, so will get it done soon after.
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Flying Custard on 28 April 2005, 12:08
£265 all in... with rolling setup, thats really good... and its in leek!  :cool: :wink: :smiley:

you'll be getting yours done before me so u'll have to tell me how it goes...  :shocked:

Can't believe i was considering AmD at £350 + vat all the way down in oxford!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 16v engine tuning?
Post by: Splinter on 28 April 2005, 13:54
Can't believe i was considering AmD at £350 + vat all the way down in oxford!  :rolleyes:

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