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General => General discussion => Topic started by: DanSN1 on 31 July 2011, 12:37
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hi im dan, 15, looking to buy a VW MK2 GTI, in black/grey/greyey/blue (helios or similar) for a little project as my first car, just wondering if i could put up a wanted ad anywhere, but yeah, im good with computers (built a few, been paid to fix a few etc) did go karting for a year and a bit, (own kart etc etc) so got some knowledge of engines, got £600ish now, and still saving so on the look for cars near worthing (willing to drive less than 2 hours to collect a car if need be, don't mind some work but don't want a rustbucket dog, so yeah, guess i've sort of done a wanted ad here so not too good aha, just let me know if there is a place to put them, or if you have a car for sale that fits the description, oh, specifically no red cars!
thanks, dan!
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Hello. and welcome to the Forum :cool: :cool:
Brave move going straight into a GTI, but best of luck with the search... get yourself to the classifieds section, and see how it works, also plenty of stuff comes upon ebay, and Autotrader is well worth a look especially If you want to view cars close to your home address...
Thom
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beautiful car, and because it's old its not too rapid nowadays, insurance will be pretty high, but the way they go round corners is rarely matched by a car i can get insured on nowadays, will be using it at kids trackday sort of things until i get my license, but not too often, also gives me time to shop around for the best insurance deals, think it becomes a classic car the year i start driving am i correct?
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yep, but not many insurance companies will allow a classic policy to new and or young drivers . :sad:
you have to 21 or 25 :wink:
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well that's slightly annoying, but doesn't effect anything as it's only a bonus i found out about recently, either way i just read about not being a guest user and discounts at places, so hey ho, one door closes another one opens as they say
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25% off ECP, well worth becoming a member :afro:
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Sound a bit like me at your age bud.
My advice is stay away from a GTI, as soon as they hear "GTI" = ££££.
At 17 I had a MK3 1.4 Golf, insurance was £6.8 grand. Then I got a 1.6 and insurance went down to £6.5K, I finally actually got it insured at 18 at £1356 standard and it costs me £1.8 grand now.
Look for a 1.3, yes it's slow, but I would have been happy with the 1.4 but after driving other cars at work, couldn't hack it. :grin:
Plus petrol is just a killer.
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same as above really, iv only just managed to afford insurance on my 8v gti at 1100 quid, I'm 21 had my licence 3 years with 2 years no claims, best to work your way up..
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found insurance for 4k, no problemo guys.
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found insurance for 4k, no problemo guys.
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: madness
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found insurance for 4k, no problemo guys.
:shocked: :oshocked: :shocked: :shocked: madness
Not if parents are willing to pay it for you. :grin:
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First car you'll write off anyway, I have no evidence for it but it's scientific fact. Buy a 1.3 and have done. You'll learn to go everywhere without braking, as it took you long enough to accelerate up to speed to lose it.
There should a law that anyone new to driving should be forced to have an old, sh!t banger. Makes them appreciate decent cars all the more.
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First car you'll write off anyway, I have no evidence for it but it's scientific fact. Buy a 1.3 and have done. You'll learn to go everywhere without braking, as it took you long enough to accelerate up to speed to lose it.
There should a law that anyone new to driving should be forced to have an old, sh!t banger. Makes them appreciate decent cars all the more.
Very true... worse story I've heard was of a family who bought their 17/18 year old son a new 911 for his birthday/passing his test. Killed himself on day one!
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too much hate guys... 1.8's that are 20 years old aren't like 1.8's today, my parents aren't paying for my insurance, i just work whenever and wherever i can, and work hard, either way this is happening, it's no porsche, has anyone got any large bumpered (not modded) gti mk2's relatively cheap? found this and may jump on it but don't like small bumpers... http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=200895.0
cheers
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too much hate guys... 1.8's that are 20 years old aren't like 1.8's today, my parents aren't paying for my insurance, i just work whenever and wherever i can, and work hard, either way this is happening, it's no porsche, has anyone got any large bumpered (not modded) gti mk2's relatively cheap? found this and may jump on it but don't like small bumpers... http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=200895.0
cheers
Where's the hate, there's no hate here, just advise... I'm surprised you got a quote for 4k? how did you manage that at 15? And are you implying that old 1.8s are slower than modern ones?... If so you are very wrong.
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First car you'll write off anyway, I have no evidence for it but it's scientific fact. Buy a 1.3 and have done. You'll learn to go everywhere without braking, as it took you long enough to accelerate up to speed to lose it.
There should a law that anyone new to driving should be forced to have an old, sh!t banger. Makes them appreciate decent cars all the more.
no evidence but is a scientific fact?
yeaaaaaaah... about that
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use and online quote e.g moneysupermarket.com and make my age just legal to drive...
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use and online quote e.g moneysupermarket.com and make my age just legal to drive...
I'm sure with your research you are aware of the insane hikes to insurance across the board.. I would almost put money on the fact that by the time you are 17, you will not be able to insure it.
Now back to your point on older 1.8s................
Not hating..
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use and online quote e.g moneysupermarket.com and make my age just legal to drive...
Yes and when you try and purchase the policy :rolleyes: they will say no, as a guess.
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If you're happy to pay silly money on insurance that's fine.
What I would say, is if you have the opportunity you mentioned to do young people's track days, then get the GTI for that purpose, do all the dangerous driving on the track and once you've got your licence, get a Mk2 1.3 for driving on the road and cheaper insurance.
Once you've been driving a year or two and your insurance has gone down, swap to the GTI.
Accidents will happen in your first year of driving and it would be better not to do it a) at higher speeds or b) in the car you really desire.
I managed to reverse into a wall and then scrape the side of my dads Astra within months of passing my test. But once I got my own car 3 years later I didn't have any accidents.
My first car was a Mk2 Golf 1.8 GL, only 90bhp from a carb engine, but it was plenty and better than my parents Astra, cost me £1200 to insure TPFT at age 20 with 3yrs experience but zero no claims.
Oh and welcome.
And I love small bumper Mk2s, they look great.
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^^ All of the above. :afro:
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aight, ill get the gti now, make it all nice, and then when i get the chance and the gti is ready buy a 1.3 golf (mk1/mk2?) and learn on that till im 18.
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aight, ill get the gti now, make it all nice, and then when i get the chance and the gti is ready buy a 1.3 golf (mk1/mk2?) and learn on that till im 18.
Best of both worlds then. Also if you have a 1300 as a daily you could possibly put the GTI on classic insurance as it won't be your main car and will cost a lot less. Then you would end up with a daily hack and a weekend toy!
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First car you'll write off anyway, I have no evidence for it but it's scientific fact. Buy a 1.3 and have done. You'll learn to go everywhere without braking, as it took you long enough to accelerate up to speed to lose it.
There should a law that anyone new to driving should be forced to have an old, sh!t banger. Makes them appreciate decent cars all the more.
no evidence but is a scientific fact?
yeaaaaaaah... about that
I suppose you are too young to remember Brass Eye
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First car you'll write off anyway, I have no evidence for it but it's scientific fact. Buy a 1.3 and have done. You'll learn to go everywhere without braking, as it took you long enough to accelerate up to speed to lose it.
There should a law that anyone new to driving should be forced to have an old, sh!t banger. Makes them appreciate decent cars all the more.
no evidence but is a scientific fact?
yeaaaaaaah... about that
I suppose you are too young to remember Brass Eye
:grin: :grin: Best thing Morris ever did IMO
Still watch them at home!
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thread hijacked ;) hahah, nah you guys are right i will do that, better driving a 1.3 around till im a decent driver, than driving a 1.8 round and wrapping myself around a pole and not being able to drive again at all
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thread hijacked ;) hahah, nah you guys are right i will do that, better driving a 1.3 around till im a decent driver, than driving a 1.8 round and wrapping myself around a pole and not being able to drive again at all
Not too worried about that, just wouldn't want another MK2 GTI going to waste. :grin:
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standard ;)
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standard ;)
You know I was referring to you wrapping it round a pole right?
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yes hahaha, standard response from most people ahaha
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yes hahaha, standard response from most people ahaha
You're fortunate that your bones heal themselves over time, Mk2 is not so lucky. :grin:
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I had a 1.8 mk2 golf NON GTI as my first car 3 years ago and it was belting for a 1st car.. Kinda the best of both worlds in a way. Stuck some recaros from an old rover and job was a good un. Never had a crash until 3 years later (this year) when i moved into the realms of RWD
All these boneheads who say you will crash dont know who you are or how you will drive it, most likey all of them dicked around on carparks with their handbrakes when young!... and crashed
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thankyou, i have done go karting and had an interest in cars for many years, now this may not make me a better driver, but increases my chances at the least!
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thankyou, i have done go karting and had an interest in cars for many years, now this may not make me a better driver, but increases my chances at the least!
Common sense usually stops you from crashing.... others crashing into is another story. Just make sure your insured and got every mod you may have declared just incase.
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I've never crashed, had a 180bhp 1.8t when I was 18 then a 2.0l 16v mk2 at 19 lol So I'd get a slower car for a year, then drive your gti spend the year getting in top shape etc., insurance will go down sh!tloads when youve had one years EXPERIENCE, no claims saved me £50, years driving saved me like £500.
Depends on your attitude too, I dont race or bomb around when it's busy so have less chance of crashing as a little boy racer who drives full pelt everywhere.
Oh and the mk2 is faster than the 1.8t I had :wink: 1.8's nowadays are embarrassing.
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Hark at all the seasoned drivers :grin: :grin: :grin:
Thom
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As it takes so long to drive a car :rolleyes:
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well that seems to clear that up, driving fast in a town is just stupid anyway,
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Its not just young drivers being silly, I didnt learn to drive until I was 24. Did karting until I was 16 (Rotax series), but in the real world and with real cars, it doesnt really make you a better driver. I had a little shunt a week after passing my test. Was coming out of tesco and got my feet mixed up, and went into the back of someone. Only doing about 10mph, no damage to his battered old escort van (that was noticable over anything that was already there anyway), but dented my bonnet and smashed a headlight on mine. I was lucky as there was no damage to his, no need to worry about insurance. Like I said, not all youngsters drive like dicks, its the inexperience as well.
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rotax is crazzzy fast man! my stepdad had a rotaxmax, i raced comer karts.
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Yeah it was awsome but I sold it when I joined the Navy. Gutted. :sick:
Nowhere to race or even have a run out down here............
Bought an old Parilla/IAME 100cc 2 stroke a while back but never got time to take it out so stripped it and sold it too. :sad:
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not bad, sold my kart for 400 on ebay, the rotax made 1200, the person who bought the rotax stored it at the same track we did, he didn't pay his fees, the owner had a no sh!t attitude and sold the rotax to someone else for 400
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I had a 1.8 mk2 golf NON GTI as my first car 3 years ago and it was belting for a 1st car.. Kinda the best of both worlds in a way. Stuck some recaros from an old rover and job was a good un. Never had a crash until 3 years later (this year) when i moved into the realms of RWD
All these boneheads who say you will crash dont know who you are or how you will drive it, most likey all of them dicked around on carparks with their handbrakes when young!... and crashed
Now now.... That's just as much as a sweeping generalisation as us saying new drivers are more likely to crash.. That wasn't the only point. Insurance and running costs have a big part to play. Just trying to be realistic.
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All these boneheads who say you will crash dont know who you are or how you will drive it, most likey all of them dicked around on carparks with their handbrakes when young!... and crashed
A crash doesn't need to involve a write off, but it's devastating to hurt a car you really care about.
At some point in their driving career everyone has a brain fade moment that leads to some level of panic.
It's easier to do in a fast car, and more likely when you are young.
I mean EVERYONE!
"I went into the corner a little too fast, realized it, called upon my legendary skill and years of experience, panicked, locked up the brakes and slid into the bloody bank - sorry!"
After stuffing his GT40 into a bank at Le Mans.
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^^ happens to the best of us.. Worse thing is animals on the road.. It was dogs on a dual carriageway that made someone swerve and destroy my mk1. Rabbits and foxes are a pain where I live.. Go for them, destroy your car a little, panic and swerve and risk destroying it a lot.
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^^ happens to the best of us.. Worse thing is animals on the road.. It was dogs on a dual carriageway that made someone swerve and destroy my mk1. Rabbits and foxes are a pain where I live.. Go for them, destroy your car a little, panic and swerve and risk destroying it a lot.
Too True.
A freind of mine swered to miss a badger and ended up in a head on with an Audi a3!
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My advice is stay away from a GTI, as soon as they hear "GTI" = ££££.
I agree with ^^^ i am 27 and have only been driving for 3 yrs... wanted a GTI when buying a new car in March but quickly realised that insurance companies weren't at all keen on insuring me so had to down grade my dreams and settled for a 1.4... I'll be honest tho i am pretty impressed, my girl is a nippy little bugger and so sweet to drive :smiley:
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Now now.... That's just as much as a sweeping generalisation as us saying new drivers are more likely to crash.. That wasn't the only point. Insurance and running costs have a big part to play. Just trying to be realistic.
2 wrongs dont make a right then :wink:
Just pointed out to the person that said 'you will crash'... just an unfair statement :smiley:
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You will crash is a bit of a stupid thing to say.
I never did other then hitting some diesel in a petrol station and that was slow. Other then that nothing.
I drive day in day out and worked out I did approx 32K miles in my first year.
Some people just get it others don't, for me, learning to drive in a non learner car is what did it, not having an instructor saying "don't accelerate too fast" and just taking bends a bit quick here and there with my boss saying "could have done that smoother" rather then "too quick" cause then you want to pass your test and just rag it.
I only had three lessons and my boss and dad teaching me was the best thing ever. No "oh it's a bit busy here, I'll drive" just get in and do it. I was fine with the manouvering and car placement on the road, went through widthbarriers at 30MPH from day one again, due to driving around carparks and such and just getting used to the size of vehicles.
Then going round carparks and private roads with roundabouts and stuff and just going to quick and losing control is what taught me. Nothing to hit, empty places and you just got a feel for the car and how suuddenly letting off the throttle results in the back overtaking the front.
IMO, it's not the car that will do it, it's the how you learnt to drive. Which is exactly why my mate smashed his van up, he just can't understand the concept of the van just spinning up round corners when the turbo kicks in. Yes it might not happen on a 1l Corsa, but could still lose that on a bend.
He's just jumped in a fairly powerful turbo diesel van, which is far quicker then my Golf (which will kill pretty much all of my other friends cars), with no supervision and is now driving it too fast cause he doesn't understand how the vehicle will react and "his dad takes the corner faster and he's fine" but his dad knows how to do it.
Try and get a learners policy and find some empty space and try and understand vehicle physics.
Now, out of 9 of us who drive, 7 have seriously smashed up their cars, lost it on bends or crashed it into others. The other two had far better experiance with learning.
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^^ happens to the best of us.. Worse thing is animals on the road.. It was dogs on a dual carriageway that made someone swerve and destroy my mk1. Rabbits and foxes are a pain where I live.. Go for them, destroy your car a little, panic and swerve and risk destroying it a lot.
Its hard to fight your natural instinct which is to swerve though! Depending if anything is behind me I tend to just jump on the brakes and keep the car pointing straight, however the worse i've been faced with is a fox. A mate of mine had a deer run out into the side of his car on a dual carriageway a couple of weeks ago :shocked:
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Worst I've had was coming back from Gatwick on the back roads at 5am. A bird, 2 rabbits, and fox! Proper killing spree, I had been up for over 24 hours and should have had a little sleep before driving for 4 1/2 hours home really, but I was in a bit of a daze so didnt even react to them bouncing off the bumper! Doesnt matter though, Hire car! :grin:
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I got a silver 4 door for sale in couple of weeks but just a shame its on the isle of wight.
Sweet car for 800 notes. could be great with a small amount of tidying up.
Original dealer number plates and even original keyring.
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I got a silver 4 door for sale in couple of weeks but just a shame its on the isle of wight.
Sweet car for 800 notes. could be great with a small amount of tidying up.
Original dealer number plates and even original keyring.
could you get it nearer to me? is the price negoitiable?
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Red is the new black :grin:
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Red is the new black :grin:
i wouldn't mind a red car if i was allowed one, something about someone in our family or something will die in a red car
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WTF ???? kind of hokus pokus is that ??? :grin:
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yeah, i know, i don't believe it either ahah, nor does my stepdad, but hey ho, may as well not tempt fate, only like it on ferrari's 99% of the time anyway
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Red cars are EVIL! :evil:
Carrie!