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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Streety82 on 18 July 2011, 13:10
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Hi all,
I’m a relatively new poster to the forum but have been reading for a while now. I have introduced myself in a previous thread (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=194613.msg1817745#msg1817745), but here is a quick summary:-
I do not currently own a Golf.
I have a Passat as a company car.
Currently working on secondment in Germany (near Stuttgart).
As you can see from my previous post, I will be returning to the UK at the end of August/beginning of September 2012, at which point I will be in the market for a new car.
I have never been in the fortunate position to purchase a new car so it is a new experience for me and I am trying to narrow down which one to go for. I am sure many/most of you Gti/Gtd owners have been in this position before and so I would like some advice on why you ended up buying a Golf, instead of one of the competition. Do you regret it or was it the right choice?
The cars I am currently considering and have researched are:-
Mk6 Golf Gti/Gtd
New 2011 BMW 1 series Sport
Seat Leon FR
Alfa Guiletta Cloveleaf or top spec diesel
From reading the various reviews available online, they all get good reviews, with the Golf coming out as the class leader (but ultimately the most expensive when taking into account the options).
I believe there will be a MK3 Leon by the time I return, but the rest will still be the same design. I plan to test drive these when I am back in England in the coming months to get a better appreciation, but I’d appreciate your opinions on the following:-
Is the Golf the best out of the bunch as the various reviews suggest?
Are the others worth considering based on your experience with the Golf?
If you had your chance again would you buy an alternative?
If I go with the Golf, when do you think would be a realistic time to place the order so as I receive it in September 2012? Jan 2012? Earlier?
I realise that it is all pretty subjective (and maybe biased, as I am asking on a Golf forum), but I want to make sure I have considered everything and would be interested in peoples recommendations.
Cheers,
Streety82
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I can't believe everyone has been ignoring your thread Streety, I reckon everyone has been a bit like me - bit nervous to make the first suggestion because they know they'll immediately be jumped upon.
Leon FR+ = Best value for money, looks amazing in Speed Blue with a few bits of black trim added for style (Cupra mirror caps and bumper insert, Cupra R rear spoiler). Either engine okay, good deals to be had on petrols but Diesels depreciate less and are popular. Currently come with full spec, xenons, nav, bluetooth etc.
1 Series = Pig ugly, good engines. Rear wheel drive you either love or hate.
Alfa = Looks nice (from most angles), my mate who knows about such things says the engines aren't as charismatic as they could be. Will either be a dream or nightmare to own and probably a nightmare to sell on again. Good choice as a company car if someone else is paying the depreciation, however if so that means you're stuck with it for the lease term!!
Golf = It's a Golf forum so that means we all bought Golfs, for better or for worse (worse in Gilly's case but he only rents his!!!). Expensive, crap spec as standard but we all bought them for a reason......
Welcome BTW! :smiley:
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Get the Golf. The rest are pig ugly.
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My girlfriend came home with an article from Which? magazine the other week which looked at running costs and residual value over 3 years.
The Golf came out on top. Still wouldn't buy a new one though :grin: :grin:
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My girlfriend came home with an article from Which? magazine the other week which looked at running costs and residual value over 3 years.
The Golf came out on top. Still wouldn't buy a new one though :grin: :grin:
Nice choice of girlfriend! My Missus just falls alseep at the mere mention of the word 'car'! :grin:
I wouldn't buy a new one either:
a) life's too short to wait 9 months for an out of date car!
b) I'd have decided I want something else by the time it was built
c) £££; Dealers have good access to nearly new cars with no wait time if you're fairly flexible with spec and thus you immediately save the VAT.
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Get the Golf. The rest are pig ugly.
Just dont get one like mine.... the fcuker was leaking water this morning!!! :angry: :angry:
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Get the Golf. The rest are pig ugly.
Just dont get one like mine.... the fcuker was leaking water this morning!!! :angry: :angry:
Shoulda kept that Mk5 :evil:
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Get the Golf. The rest are pig ugly.
Just dont get one like mine.... the fcuker was leaking water this morning!!! :angry: :angry:
Shoulda kept that Mk5 :evil:
The thought had crossed my mind a few times :lipsrsealed:
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Love my GTI, I love the ride, I love the sound, I love its looks. Would I spend £30k+ on a new one? Not on your life.
I think there are better nearly new cars out there for less such as an Audi S4
Jim
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Love my GTI, I love the ride, I love the sound, I love its looks. Would I spend £30k+ on a new one? Not on your life.
I think there are better nearly new cars out there for less such as:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201128401714612/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/25000/model/s4/make/audi/postcode/rg141uu/page/1/quicksearch/true/radius/1500?logcode=p
Jim
But you could buy this GTI, (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3016211.htm) the same age as that car for £8k less. :smiley:
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Love my GTI, I love the ride, I love the sound, I love its looks. Would I spend £30k+ on a new one? Not on your life.
I think there are better nearly new cars out there for less such as:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201128401714612/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/25000/model/s4/make/audi/postcode/rg141uu/page/1/quicksearch/true/radius/1500?logcode=p
Jim
But you could buy a GTI the same age as that car for £8k less. :smiley:
True Mike, but if you're going to spend £30k I'd consider a used car that started off life at £40k plus as long its new(ish)
Jim
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. Much appreciated. :smiley:
Bit of a mixed bag, but I kind of expected that.
I can't believe everyone has been ignoring your thread Streety, I reckon everyone has been a bit like me - bit nervous to make the first suggestion because they know they'll immediately be jumped upon.
Leon FR+ = Best value for money, looks amazing in Speed Blue with a few bits of black trim added for style (Cupra mirror caps and bumper insert, Cupra R rear spoiler). Either engine okay, good deals to be had on petrols but Diesels depreciate less and are popular. Currently come with full spec, xenons, nav, bluetooth etc.
1 Series = Pig ugly, good engines. Rear wheel drive you either love or hate.
Alfa = Looks nice (from most angles), my mate who knows about such things says the engines aren't as charismatic as they could be. Will either be a dream or nightmare to own and probably a nightmare to sell on again. Good choice as a company car if someone else is paying the depreciation, however if so that means you're stuck with it for the lease term!!
Golf = It's a Golf forum so that means we all bought Golfs, for better or for worse (worse in Gilly's case but he only rents his!!!). Expensive, crap spec as standard but we all bought them for a reason......
Welcome BTW! :smiley:
Thanks for the welcome.
I really like the Leon FR+. The problem is, as I will be spending my own money on the car (not my companies) I keep on thinking that, if I'm going to spend that much money (approx. £25K) I may as well try and stretch to something I really want. If I went for the Leon I think I may always wish that I had just stretched that little bit more for the Golf.
I am probably in the minority but I like the look of the new BMW 1 Series (sport). But its rear wheel drive and I have heard these are a nightmare in the snow/ice, so will defo need a decent set of winter tyres = more money :angry:
Alfa = Bit of gamble, like you have said! Don't think I have the balls to gamble that much money!
The Golf. The lead times are shocking, but it is not a major issue for me, as I can come back to England and order it in advance of me returning. Also, I have seen some people on here mention that the MK7 GTI/GTD probably won't be around until 2014. If so, then it won't be out of date for a couple of years from the time I get it.
Love my GTI, I love the ride, I love the sound, I love its looks. Would I spend £30k+ on a new one? Not on your life.
I think there are better nearly new cars out there for less such as:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201128401714612/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/25000/model/s4/make/audi/postcode/rg141uu/page/1/quicksearch/true/radius/1500?logcode=p
Jim
But you could buy this GTI, (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3016211.htm) the same age as that car for £8k less. :smiley:
Thanks Mike. Looking on Autotrader, all the nearly new GTI/GTD's are still pretty expensive, but that one seems very reasonable. I am no car expert/mechanic though, so I think I would be more comfortable buying from a main dealer than pivate and you always pay more for that "privilege".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :undecided: Some thinking and test driving to do.
Oh yeah, one final question, does anyone know the latest approximate lead time figure? Is 9 months about right? If I do go for a new one, then I think I need to start thinking about it fairly soon.
Thanks again.
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Streety82... i would sell you mine for a grand less than that!! but would you want it is the question :laugh: :laugh:
brand spanking new engine though :grin:
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Don't forget the Seat Cupra R - 265 BHP, faster than the GTI, looks quite cool BUT the interior is shocking but for £21k that's real value for money imho
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201119386754260/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/20000/model/leon/make/seat/postcode/rg141uu/page/1/keywords/r/radius/1500?logcode=p
Jim
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Lead times will vary, if you get a dealer with allocation and maybe a cancelled order your wait time could be quite quick, at the other extreme if you pick a dealer with dodgy allocation and want something that is in scarce supply as an optional extra you could be looking at nearer 12 months! How long is a bit of string? EVO1986 is our resident insider, he could give you a better answer than I could.
As for the Leon FR, the petrol version is on offer from SEAT at under £20k brand new. Brokers will shave a little more off that. The Leon Cupra R is also good value but not a wise buy if new - you can pick up fully loaded 9 month old ones from dealers for under £20k.
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The Golf. The lead times are shocking, but it is not a major issue for me, as I can come back to England and order it in advance of me returning. Also, I have seen some people on here mention that the MK7 GTI/GTD probably won't be around until 2014. If so, then it won't be out of date for a couple of years from the time I get it.
Well I'm on my 4th Golf in a row and have loved them all (Mk V GTI >> ED 30 >> R32 >> Mk6 R)
The whole "ownership" experience is unbeatable IMHO - practical 5dr hatchback, easy to run, easy to sell, enthusiastic owners forums :grin:, plus I love the DSG, especially in the AWD models :evil:
I'd double check the arrival time of the MK 7 though before ordering a MK 6. Recent press comments are suggesting late 2012 for the first Mk 7's I think :huh:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/269962/new_vw_golf_is_go.html#ixzz1SC1uoFYN
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(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn233/KevG_photo/046.jpg)
Someone posted this on the R forum the other day i think its a reasonable indication of time scale for deliverys.
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I like how the arrows point both ways :laugh: :laugh:
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If you want and Golf and you're gonna spend £25k get this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201126395396945/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/30000/price-from/22500/model/golf/make/volkswagen/radius/1500/keywords/r/postcode/rg141uu/page/1?logcode=p
Wish I'd got this :cry:
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or this!!! :evil: :evil:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
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or this!!! :evil: :evil:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
Superb car, don't like those kind of miles for that kind of money.
Jim
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or this!!! :evil: :evil:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
Superb car, don't like those kind of miles for that kind of money.
Jim
Owl yes I love that BM. I'd consider one of those for that sort of money. A real performance car.
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or this!!! :evil: :evil:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3008400.htm
Superb car, don't like those kind of miles for that kind of money.
Jim
Owl yes I love that BM. I'd consider one of those for that sort of money. A real performance car.
ahhh if we are talking real performance car then it has to be one of these :evil: :evil:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3027246.htm
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Don,t get the Bm. I,ve got an 07 320i M Sport Coupe, absolutley sh!te in the snow and the RF,s are too rigid and give no feel of the car and they cost a fortune to replace. Apart from that a great car . Mines up for sale in Sept when I get me 5 door Gti
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I have been accused by each one of you grandstanding trollops of being THE OT King. But you guys take the sodding cake and then some. :shocked:
@Original Poster: You will not regret getting a Golf, any Golf. However, if I was to choose between the GTI and the GTD, I'd definitely get the former as it is a nicer car, without any doubt. Even the seats have a more attractive plaid pattern. The GTD is a very good car, but the GTI is a GREAT car. End of.
The other cars on your list are nothing but also-rans and simply have too many foibles. They are still fumbling their way towards Golf quality and status.
Always remember, you pay for what you get.
Hope you can now make the right choice. :smiley:
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3 Door GTD in Carbon grey, subtle but stunning to look at, and great to drive, great MPG, strong resale even with high milage and keeps manners on the A4's and 320D's.
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If you go for a performance Golf.... new.... Then may I suggest that as you've come from a (shall we say) 'ordinary' saloon (the company's Passat) that you spec in ACC, as the ride *will most definitely* be somewhat harder than you're used to - as I've found out! :laugh:
Any performance car (or any car in fact!) with wide tyres - without 4 wheel drive - will be an absolute ar$e to drive in the snow/ice (unless fitted with 'AutoSocks' of course) many times in the snow in my 13 yr old Combo van I've cruised past 'prestige' cars flailing away by the curbside in the snow (my Bora PD150 included).
I can't comment on your other choices, but do your homework, checkout the long term reviews and once you've narrowed it down to a couple, have a test drive of each :cool:
Remember.... 'Like a Golf... But not a Golf' :wink:
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Lead times seem to have had a bit of a push-on, perhaps for September deliveries, ~Currently on for 18 Weeks from point of Order, then add 4 weeks for the date of the original Dealer Order.
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Been really happy with the GTI. Best and most complete car I've ever owned to date so I would certainly recommend it. Get 5 doors for more practicallity and make sure you purchase one with Xenons. DSG is also a must in my book. The quality and feel of the interior on the Mk6 is superb.
Personally I would buy a nearly new one from the dealer to cut out the silly waiting times and save a few pennies in the process but that's just my opinion. If you want a new one with a long list of options be prepared to wait as there are countless threads on here about long waiting times.
Anyway go and get yourself a GTI or GTD and you can qualify to waste countless hours on here talking c@ap :smiley:
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Thanks again everyone for the your input. Good to hear your opinions.
I will definetely update this thread once I have made a decision, so you can see if I have listened to anything you have said :wink:
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In my search for a car last year I considered and tried the following:
Audi S3
BMW 130
Focus RS
Focus RS MP350
Golf R32
Golf Edition 30
BMW 335 Coupe
Some quality cars, and the GTI came out on top for me.
Jim
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Don,t get the Bm. I,ve got an 07 320i M Sport Coupe, absolutley sh!te in the snow and the RF,s are too rigid and give no feel of the car and they cost a fortune to replace. Apart from that a great car . Mines up for sale in Sept when I get me 5 door Gti
there is a huge difference between the M3 4.0 V8 and the 2.0 engine in the 320i you have. There is also a totally different suspension setup. The fact its rear wheel drive means its poor in the snow... not that its a BMW. ETTO though.. dont expect anything too special when you get the GTI, you will only be shocked at how they manage to get away with charging silly prices :smiley:
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3 Door GTD in Carbon grey, subtle but stunning to look at, and great to drive, great MPG, strong resale even with high milage and keeps manners on the A4's and 320D's.
+1 GTD is an awsome oil burner with bundles of torque, although I wont get to drive the bosses again........
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Hello all,
Just thought I'd update this thread as I was back in the UK a couple of weeks ago and managed to get a test drive in the GTD.
Well, I booked a test drive online for the GTi/GTD at the VW Cheltenham Dealership a week in advance. Everything confirmed ok and I thought I was ready. However, just before I left my house for the test drive, I rang them to check some details about insurance. The guy then informed me that he had no record of my booking and that he didn’t have any cars available for the test drive. I then re-scheduled for the same time two days later.
Two days later I turned up and surprise, surprise they didn't have a GTi or GTD available for me to test drive. I was in my car about to leave, when by chance the GTD demo arrived from the previous test driver.
Anyway, I really liked the car. I am no driving/car expert like some of you guys, but I can safely say it was a pleasure to drive. It had the 18" Charleston's with the standard suspension and DSG. I was concerned that the ride would be too firm but I was impressed with it and thought it was fine. The DSG is superb, but I don't think I like it enough to pay the extra.
After the test drive, I had a long chat with the sales guy and explained my situation. I said that I would have a think about what spec. I wanted and would contact him, once I was back in Germany for a quotation.
His original quotation was more than £1500 more than the cheapest I could get from an online broker. When I told him this, he improved his quote but was still £500 off the cheapest quote from a broker and wouldn't go any lower.
My question is, has anyone had any experience buying via a broker? My understanding is that they purely act as the agent and once the order is placed with them, you deal directly with a VW Dealer.
Is it worth trying to get more of a discount from them as well? If so, has anyone got any haggling tips?
As always, any advice much appreciated.
Cheers,
Streety82
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Many brokers import cars from mainland europe and therfore you may only get 2yrs warranty rather than 3yrs.
tbh your first couple of experiences with vw dealers should give you a good idea what the rest of the journey is going to be like.... can a broker really be any worse :lipsrsealed:
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Hi Streety82,
New to the forum but been reading for quite a while. I have recently ordered a new 5dr manual GTi with xenons, sunroof and lux pack in white to replace my current 3 dr carbon grey. Went through Autobytel who put me through to a VW dealer. Basically got all my options chucked in for free with the discount. They were fantastic to deal with.
Had previously walked out of a few dealerships due to VWs "unique" customer care. :wink:
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Would it be cheeky to ask how much yoru new GTi is costing with Autobytel?
Dave
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Options in the OP;
1) Mk6 GTI
2) Mk6 GTD
3) 1 series Sport
4) Seat Leon FR
5) Alfa Guiletta Cloverleaf
Hmm... some great and some not so great cars in that list. The best approach for me would be a process of elimination and the first one to eliminate for me would be the Alfa. Loads of people rave about Alfa styling but it doesn't do anything for me. I personally find almost all of the other cars better looking with the Golf looking cleaner, the Leon more stylish and the 1 Series more muscular. Personal preference so don't feel compelled to agree. As for Alfa ownership... similar boat really as the styling. I prefer something solid and dependable and I just wouldn't have that piece of mind with an Alfa.
So that leaves the other 4.
Next up is the BMW simply because it represents a different style of motoring and thus, if it ticks the boxes, then the other options could be dismissed. There are the inevitable (and seemingly never ending) debates between FWD vs RWD, quality vs price, and, of course, image. Personally I like the 1 series (more so the coupe than the hatch) but I am a FWD man and I prefer the practicality of a Golf shaped hatch back for now.
If by now you haven't departed and ordered a BMW, then there's 3 options left which, quite ironically, are essentially the same car.
Making no qualms about it, the Leon is cheaper than the Golf. It does however offer the same practicality, the same engine, a similar drive and similar economy. Insurance will likely be the same and so will road tax (they may actually be identical but I've not looked it up so can't confirm).
A no brainer then? Not quite. The catch is that the Leon also feels cheaper. This comes across in a lot of the reviews of Seats vs VWs and having spent a fair bit of time in the mk2 Leon I can confirm that it does feel a good 10-15% lower quality than the Golf. The interior design isn't as classy in my opinion and the plastics are just that bit more scratchy. Switchgear is obviously shared between the models so nothings going to fall off any quicker on the Leon than in the Golf. And then there is the styling. The Leon is a good looking car with nice lines and a lot of style, but it does look big and in some ways looks more like an MPV than a hatch. A minor criticism I know.
Turning now to the 2 Golfs, the difference is in the engine. Both variants are expensive for what they are but that seems to be the way of the car market now. Of the two models, I plumped for the GTI. Although the economy of the GTD impressed me, I'm not a diesel convert. Furthermore, I'd wanted a GTI since I was a small kid so I wasn't really considering a diesel anyway.
The mpg of the diesel is great. So is the torque and, from what I've gathered on this forum, the engine has come a long way in terms of refinement. So it looks all good.
The performance of the petrol is better though and the mpg is still quite impressive. On my own I regularly get 40mpg+ which is pretty good I reckon. Certainly doesn't break the bank.
"What about a remap?" I hear someone cry. Yes a remap is a possibility and will increase the performance of any car. But for exactly that reason I wouldn't concern yourself about it at this stage. Whilst a mapped GTD will match standard GTI levels of performance, a mapped GTI will then pull ahead again in performance stakes.
So what's my verdict then?
Well you may notice that I haven't picked a "winner" from the list (although I have dismissed the Alfa). This is for two reason. Firstly, the BMW offers a different ownership experience to the SEAT and VW options. It's more prestigious, higher quality and arguably more sporty (RWD and BMW's perfect driving machine recipe) but will be more expensive and less practical. For these reason's you'll either buy or dismiss the BMW.
As for the VAG group cars, it's more close run but again impossible to definitely pick a winner. For me the GTI is the best all rounder offering iconic status, great quality and refinement and strong performance. For others the GTD's blend of increased economy is the winning formula. And for others both the GTI and GTD are simply overpriced (and at £28k for an average spec you can't really blame them) so the FR offers the must have ingredients for a better price.
Apologies that I haven't given you a winner, but hopefully in not picking one I've given you a fairer outlook on the cars.
EDIT I just wanted to add a bit about the prices of the Golfs. Back when the Mk5 was released, the GTI was priced just under £20k which is a great price. The Mk6 increased in price and mine was around £23k brand new from the dealers with only the DSG as an optional extra. For the me the GTI spec came with everything I needed and some more so I found the car very well equipped (things like dual zone climate control, heated mirrors and auto dim mirrors were still optional extras on cars 2 years ago). A 2011 GTI however, spec'd identically to my own, would cost £27k. So in other words £4k more.
There's two ways to look at this. Firstly, is the 2011 car £4k more car than my 2009 (comparing them both brand new). For me it's not. Fancy lights and a colour display are not enough to justify the increase. There has also been an economic shift which accounts more for the increase but it's still a bit on the ridiculous side.
The second way to look at it is to see what the Golf is up against. For under £30k I can't find another car which for me, offers as well rounded a package as the GTI. With the optional DSG box and ACC (I would spec this on my next car) there is no situation which the Golf can't shine in. It is very practical with a great boot and very comfortable seats. The quality of the materials inside are pleasant. In every situation the ride is refined and, when driven hard, the car performs very well indeed. And the best thing is that with the DSG, when I'm not in the mood for a hot hatch, I just select 'D' and relax and the cars brings me home with the same class and composure as say a Mercedes C class or similar.
And to further reiterate my point... I will be buying another GTI based upon my experience with this car. It has impressed me thoroughly both in terms of performance, but also in just how far a humble car like the Golf has come.
If only VW dealers were as impressive. :lipsrsealed:
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I've bought a MK4 from a broker, and also ordered my mk6 gti via the same outfit, Drivethedeal. It wasnt the brokers fault the mk6 fell through, I just got bored of waiting for vw to build it! Both quotes were decent savings, think it was about £1.5k cheaper on the mk 6. My experience with them was all good, and to be fair the supplying dealers were also excellent, no argument when I cancelled, just a prompt deposit refund.
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Hi Dave,
If you dont ask.....
GTI had a list price of £28680 which I managed to get through Autobytel for £25800 because they further discounted the car for me.
Xenons, lux pack, Monza shadows, sunroof, white.
All usual VW extras. Free servicing and 3yr warranty. They also discount the alloy insurance, gap cover etc. I've seen my gap online though for £130!
Great service too!
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Thanks for the info. so far fellas! :smiley:
@King Monkey - Thanks for the pricing info and website. I just tried Autobytel and they didn't come up cheapest out of the quotes received so far. Did you manage to haggle the free servicing through Autobytel or when you spoke to the dealer? The 3 year service package is currently £299 so would be great to get that for free.
@MDSS MK6 - This is good to hear. The cheapest quote I've got so far is with Drivethedeal, so it's nice to hear you had a good experience with them.
@PenguinGTI - Many thanks for your thorough review. Very much appreciated. I think all along I had my heart set on a Golf and just considered the other's because I thought I should. I've pretty much gone with what every review has said and that is that the Golf is the best in the class and following the test drive I am pretty set on the GTD.
Discounted Leon due to lesser quality interior.
Discounted BMW due to RWD in winter. Extra money on winter tyres.
Discounted Alfa because I'm not sure of the styling. Like the front (in certain colour's), don't like the back.
@R32UK - yes, not particularly impressed with the service received at the dealer. Hope it improves, but I see the general consensus is they aren't the best. :sad:
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Streety82,
The servicing was included free of charge. Didn't ask for it as my dad has been a Vw mechanic for years and always done all my work on previous cars. My brother bought a Roc recently from Autobytel and it was also included for him.
Hope this helps.
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Seriously mate, if you are not going to be covering loads of miles I would plump for the GTI over the GTD, although the GTD is a GOOD car it is not a GREAT car, it does have good mid range torque but nowhere near the outright power of the GTI, to my way of thinking it is a GTI wannabe but does not quite make it. Whatever you decide on I would definitely spec ACC and the reverse camera, both of which I could not live without.
All the best with whatever you decide on.
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I'll be succinct.
Question 1: What car have you got?
Answer: Golf GTI.
Reaction: Eyes light up and there is a look of envy.
Question 2: What car have you got?
Answer: Golf GTD.
Reaction: Blank look, no reaction.
Life's a beitch.
QED. :smug:
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I'll be succinct.
Question 1: What car have you got?
Answer: Golf GTI.
Reaction: Eyes light up and there is a look of envy.
Question 2: What car have you got?
Answer: Golf GTD.
Reaction: Blank look, no reaction.
Life's a beitch.
QED. :smug:
I'll be more succinct.
You overrate the Golf GTI's impact.
I'm as much of a VW fan as the next person on here, however, I feel no envy, or animosity towards people who on mk6 GTI's. Sure they are a nice car, but not something to be envious about.
A car to be envious about is something like an exotic sports car Lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti, Rolls Royce etc. Hot hatches are ten a penny now, and every main manufacturer has one in its line up.
Ultimately to the OP, if you want a GTI for its spirited drive, good build quality and comfortable drive then get one. If you want a GTI for it's perhaps not quite as sure footed drive (due to front weight) good build quality and comfortable drive then get one of them.
It also depends on how long you intend to keep it. High milage on the GTI will affect resale value, on the GTD it won't harm it so much. Servicing costs on both will be higher due to VW method of working, although running costs on the GTD will be lower in terms of fuel and tax.
Economies of scale, which can you afford?
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Street82 who did you deal with at vw Cheltenham as I work there.
Lee.Evans@ir.inchcape.co.uk
I am off on holiday till the 31st but can see if we can do any more for you. Which broker have you enquired on getting the car through?
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Yes love, well done. You can use google.
The first bit was for you. The rest was my view and to aid the OP.
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Yes love, well done. You can use google.
The first bit was for you. The rest was my view and to aid the OP.
Succinct at last, love.
Well done. :kiss:
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Streety82,
The servicing was included free of charge. Didn't ask for it as my dad has been a Vw mechanic for years and always done all my work on previous cars. My brother bought a Roc recently from Autobytel and it was also included for him.
Hope this helps.
If you take the car on vw solutions / pcp then you get the 3 year service plan free so guess this must of been the case.
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If you take the car on vw solutions / pcp then you get the 3 year service plan free so guess this must of been the case.
Lee, Is that a relatively new thing or just garage dependent?
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Yep, GTI is on a pcp and I think that the 3 yr servicing is standard but only been available for last 6 months or so.
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Street82 who did you deal with at vw Cheltenham as I work there.
Lee.Evans@ir.inchcape.co.uk
I am off on holiday till the 31st but can see if we can do any more for you. Which broker have you enquired on getting the car through?
Hi Lee, I have just sent you an e-mail. Hope to speak to you after your holiday. Cheers Paul.
I'll be succinct.
Question 1: What car have you got?
Answer: Golf GTI.
Reaction: Eyes light up and there is a look of envy.
Question 2: What car have you got?
Answer: Golf GTD.
Reaction: Blank look, no reaction.
Life's a beitch.
QED. :smug:
I'll be more succinct.
You overrate the Golf GTI's impact.
I'm as much of a VW fan as the next person on here, however, I feel no envy, or animosity towards people who on mk6 GTI's. Sure they are a nice car, but not something to be envious about.
A car to be envious about is something like an exotic sports car Lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti, Rolls Royce etc. Hot hatches are ten a penny now, and every main manufacturer has one in its line up.
Ultimately to the OP, if you want a GTI for its spirited drive, good build quality and comfortable drive then get one. If you want a GTI for it's perhaps not quite as sure footed drive (due to front weight) good build quality and comfortable drive then get one of them.
It also depends on how long you intend to keep it. High milage on the GTI will affect resale value, on the GTD it won't harm it so much. Servicing costs on both will be higher due to VW method of working, although running costs on the GTD will be lower in terms of fuel and tax.
Economies of scale, which can you afford?
Thanks for your views guys. All feedback welcome.
Yep, GTI is on a pcp and I think that the 3 yr servicing is standard but only been available for last 6 months or so.
Thanks for confirming! :smiley:
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If you take the car on vw solutions / pcp then you get the 3 year service plan free so guess this must of been the case.
Lee, Is that a relatively new thing or just garage dependent?
Probably in the last 9-12 months....
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Iv'e never used this site myself but it's supposed to get the best bid from all UK dealers on your spec of car.
You can also state what you are prepared to pay and see if any of them will come down to it.
It also shows typically available current discounts, so worth a browse to see how your best current quote compares
http://www.autoebid.com/buy-new-cars/VOLKSWAGEN/GOLF/2.0-TSI-GTI-5d-DSG/43137.asp
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I understood they were often picked up by brokers so yet another link in the chain.
Get some balls and go haggle, it's fun! :laugh:
Iv'e never used this site myself but it's supposed to get the best bid from all UK dealers on your spec of car.
You can also state what you are prepared to pay and see if any of them will come down to it.
It also shows typically available current discounts, so worth a browse to see how your best current quote compares
http://www.autoebid.com/buy-new-cars/VOLKSWAGEN/GOLF/2.0-TSI-GTI-5d-DSG/43137.asp
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streety 82, why don't you order a RHD golf from your local dealer in Germany, they order direct from the factory rather than through an importer and therefore lead times are a lot less, they might even do you a better deal and you can spec how you like, colours, GTD with 4wd etc, but be carefull if you go off UK spec as might be hard to sell on. Finally the options in germany always used to be much cheaper than in the UK. Worth a visit to spec and check it out. Dead easy to register at this end, and if you keep it for more than about a year no real value issues, if full UK spec. (i used to run car import business)
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Paul,
other tactic is to find the cheapest broker price and then ask for it be matched by a few main delears, they won't I am sure, but say the deal is there when they want it, if they are only a car off their sales target at the end of the month / quarter, they will prob call you back and do the deal. I have done this very succesfully a few times. Local dealers to you (if in cheltenham) try blade in gloucester, vw in evesham and vw in Cirencester, prob too much money floating around in Cheltenham to get the best deal :laugh: I got my Ed30 from Capitol VW outside Newport because they had the sharpest pencil (i live in Chelt too BTW) Chelt parts are the best through, will often match TPS, and I have no complaints with the service dept at Chelt, always found them to be good.