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Title: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Khare on 09 July 2011, 21:24
Does the UK have any garages at all that have nitrogen rather than air to inflate tyres? In Brazil pretty much ALL of the petrol forecourts will have nitrogen rather than air and in Spain a lot do too, if not then the local tyre fitter will have it. I've never seen them in the UK, mind you some petrol stations charge 20p to inflate a tyre with air, they'd probably charge £2 to use nitrogen  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: dom on 09 July 2011, 21:27
I paid £2 a tyre to get mine filled with nitrogen when they were fitted.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: richw911 on 09 July 2011, 21:30
I was told its not worth doing  :undecided: Is it?

Ive never seen any garage with it  :undecided:
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Khare on 09 July 2011, 21:47
£2 a tyre fook me  :shocked: Not worth doing at that price, but if it's free it's deffo worth doing. Constant pressure when hot or cold and no condensation on the inside of the wheel, so no rusty rims or perished inner rubber.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Thom89 on 09 July 2011, 21:51
Some hot countries use nitrogen, as its a far more stable element than air... you'd never know the difference though, waste of time in this country :rolleyes:

Thom
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Khare on 09 July 2011, 21:58
In terms of tyre performance is a lot better though Tom. Because pressure is constant you won't suffer from low pressures when the rubber is still cold and wear would be much improved.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: bobotheclown on 09 July 2011, 22:00
if anybody is a member of costco they fill tyres with nitrogen and stick a little green cap in the valve. That's the only place I have seen it done.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: mwep201081 on 09 July 2011, 22:11
not worth doing on a normal road car....
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: danny_p on 09 July 2011, 22:23
place i do some work for we nitrogen fill everything.  

customers like the sound of it,   IT'S DRY ,  pressure varys less with tempriture, diffues through tyers and wheels slower ( virtualy insignificant unless there porus)   much better for doing temp pressure logs with when doing fine tuneing.  nitrogen cyls are still upto pressure on monday morning the compressor isn't


i've been know to fill tractor tyer with nitogen but for diffrent reasons

littel sh!tty compressor in van take's about a week to blow one up,  littel 10ltr bottel of nitrogen woooosh  job done and dont need to get genny out ether.  

nitrogen is cheep,  even in bottels 50 ltr cyl at 230 bar is about £10 and that fills a lot of tyers.   in bulk tanks its a lot cheeper
 
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 09 July 2011, 22:37
much better for doing temp pressure logs with when doing fine tuneing

This.

It's about the only reason to use nitrogen on a road going vehicle. Otherwise the tyres are never loaded up enough to warrant it, and also, pressure checking the tyres is a 2second job once a fortnight at most.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: JC on 10 July 2011, 06:55
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


but if your a driving god you will think it makes a difference  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 10 July 2011, 08:04
oxygen is roughly 78% nitrogen btw :laugh:

Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Tabx808 on 10 July 2011, 08:48
As far as I know all sh*tfits offer nitrogen now. Last time I had my work combo van in there they put it in at £1 per tyre.

Couldnt tell you if it makes any difference though as being a vauxhall its now sat in the garage waiting to be fixed again.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: mwep201081 on 10 July 2011, 09:38
oxygen is roughly 78% nitrogen btw :laugh:



the pure nitrogen in garages is 95% nitrogen
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: MrBounce on 10 July 2011, 12:06
air is roughly 78% nitrogen btw :laugh:

Corrected for you. Oxygen is an element in its own right. Air is a mixture...   :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Chris MKV on 10 July 2011, 14:10
air is roughly 78% nitrogen btw :laugh:

Corrected for you. Oxygen is an element in its own right. Air is a mixture...   :rolleyes: :laugh:

Beat me to it.

Also remember that you will still have some oxygen in there from when the tyres are fitted so you never will get 100% nitrogen.  Golf tyres run just under 3 bar so assuming 100% pure nitrogen for inflation for tyres fitted on a dry day you will end up at around 93% instead of 80%.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 10 July 2011, 14:55
air is roughly 78% nitrogen btw :laugh:

Corrected for you. Oxygen is an element in its own right. Air is a mixture...   :rolleyes: :laugh:
oops, early morning posting  :grin:
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: gixer1400 on 10 July 2011, 22:15
Demon Tweaks in Wrexham offer this service too :wink:

its worth 1 sec per lap on the ring road sprint :grin:

Although racing on the road is illegal.. your honour .........  :lipsrsealed:

Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Khare on 10 July 2011, 22:18
£1 a corner is not so bad, but again not worth it  :sad:

Shame it's not free.
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: Mr Blue on 11 July 2011, 09:44
Surely filling it with helium would make it lighter and give more mpg :grin:
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: apie2004 on 11 July 2011, 12:05
And its inert
Title: Re: Nitrogen for car tyres
Post by: danny_p on 11 July 2011, 17:20
Surely filling it with helium would make it lighter and give more mpg :grin:

done that for sh!ts a giggels.


helium expensive.....    helium also very small atom and its very good at diffuision through tyers.

sods law also states that youd hear a lot of squeekey voices and find your tyers flat all the time if you ever told anybody.

in theory pressure would be less affected by tempriture as well