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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: KennyGTI on 08 July 2011, 18:50
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Well went to see about a MY59 Golf R today and got to take it out a wee test run :rolleyes:
First impressions inside were the GTI looks more classier with the tartan cloth and piano black trim. Anyways, out on the road and the R shows its colours :laugh: 4WD in wee tight roundabouts = good fun, just feels so pinned to the road! Power wise it is quick but not nearly as quick as my GTI is right now but thats not really a far comparison. The gearbox in the R is solid compared to the GTI, no play in the gears and so smooth, everything just feels so much nicer in the R but suppose thats what you pay for :rolleyes:
Not sure what to do now, would it be a step back going to a 59 plate from having my GTI from new and paying more over a wee bit longer. Got the weekend to think about.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/kenny1601/528c5d0d-1.jpg)
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Buy it Kenny , you know want it and you wont sleep tonight thinking about it :grin:
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In your Scottish location, Kenneth, the 4-wheel drive may come in useful !!!
Red
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You've tried it now and it'll bug you forever if you don't own one!!
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Kenny: Don't waste your money on an old Blue Rinse R. Wait for the Mk7 GTI. :smug:
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Kenny: Don't waste your money on an old Blue Rinse R. Wait for the Mk7 GTI. :smug:
You know you want one too...
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Kenny: Don't waste your money on an old Blue Rinse R. Wait for the Mk7 GTI. :smug:
You know you want one too...
NO. :smug: :kiss:
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Kenny: Don't waste your money on an old Blue Rinse R. Wait for the Mk7 GTI. :smug:
You know you want one too...
NO. :smug: :kiss:
If someone offered you a straight swap you'd say no? Whatevs!
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Kenny: Don't waste your money on an old Blue Rinse R. Wait for the Mk7 GTI. :smug:
You know you want one too...
NO. :smug: :kiss:
If someone offered you a straight swap you'd say no? Whatevs!
Who wouldnt go for a straight swap? but buying an R at their current prices and the drop that will come in about 18 months isnt worth it in my books. Great car, I'd love to have one but close to £30k for a used one is mad!
Jim
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Kenny: Don't waste your money on an old Blue Rinse R. Wait for the Mk7 GTI. :smug:
You know you want one too...
NO. :smug: :kiss:
If someone offered you a straight swap you'd say no? Whatevs!
Hypothetically, it is still NO. :laugh:
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GTIs are expensive, Rs are just silly money.
The main advantage of an R over a mapped GTI is 4WD. That's all.
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Buy it fella. Mk6 Gti's are common as :evil:. drops a baited hook in the pool
Only 545 regestured R's on our roads.
A 59 plate must be worth a reasonable 25k which is what it should of been valued at new. :smiley:
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Don't do it Kenny
Gti is much better looking and just as quick if mapped :smiley:
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Don't do it Kenny
Gti is much better looking and just as quick if mapped :smiley:
^^
He's right.
The Rs will bomb in value in a few years, the GTI won't.
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save yourself 15k and get a S3.... dont care what other think :wink:
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Gilly
Have I missed something??
Looks like you're going for an S3 next. New?
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save yourself 15k and get a S3.... dont care what other think :wink:
That was on my list before getting the GTI, test drive 2 of them and wasnt impressed with the ride at all and the interior feels dated after the MK6.
I agree though that an older S3 does represent a great value car that can be tuned to f*ck.
Jim
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Strange, Gilly is partial to a Sh!t3. I have just driven one and it exceeds its title and then some: it is a pile of Sh!t x 3 and growing. He thinks that it would be less wreckable in his gentle hands. :tongue:
A horrid car.
Kenny: If one has to choose between two evils, go for the R. But if you have the slightest semblance of taste and intelligence, keep the GTI. :smug:
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Don't do it Kenny
Gti is much better looking and just as quick if mapped :smiley:
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He's right.
The Rs will bomb in value in a few years, the GTI won't.
They both will and the Gtd will rule
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:grin:
I'll be getting an R next or a mk7 something.
I mapped an S3 on Wednesday and I tend to test drive them afterwards, I have to say that I'm always blown away by just how fast they are.
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:grin:
I'll be getting an R next or a mk7 something.
I mapped an S3 on Wednesday and I tend to test drive them afterwards, I have to say that I'm always blown away by just how fast they are.
Yes, BLOWN is the operative word. :laugh:
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Lifes too short........ if you like it and can afford it then go for it! :smiley:
I know I would like one thats for sure but I've always been too bloody sensible and paid my cars completly off before starting the whole mad process of buying another one.
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Don't do it Kenny
Gti is much better looking and just as quick if mapped :smiley:
^^
He's right.
The Rs will bomb in value in a few years, the GTI won't.
They both will and the Gtd will rule
The GTD rules now and has done for about 6 months :wink:. But the R has prestige and goes like stink with 4WD stop messing about and get it :grin:
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Don't do it Kenny
Gti is much better looking and just as quick if mapped :smiley:
^^
He's right.
The Rs will bomb in value in a few years, the GTI won't.
They both will and the Gtd will rule
The GTD rules now and has done for about 6 months :wink:. But the R has prestige and goes like stink with 4WD stop messing about and get it :grin:
What was I thinking? I isnt my money so I don't have to be sensible - BUY THE R!
Jim
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GTDs are great cars I'm sure, not that I'd know as I've never been in one.
Never will either.
It's a diseasal and always will be.
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GTDs are great cars I'm sure, not that I'd know as I've never been in one.
Never will either.
It's a diseasal and always will be.
Careful ...... Some of the mods drive modded ones. :laugh:
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Past caring.
I've had lots of GTD/banter posts deleted by the mod (s).
That's why I didn't post for a while.
This should be a GTI forum giving stick to the diesel brigade, not the other way around.
Mod (s) - feel free to delete, you normally do.
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Past caring.
I've had lots of GTD/banter posts deleted by the mod (s).
That's why I didn't post for a while.
This should be a GTI forum giving stick to the diesel brigade, not the other way around.
Mod (s) - feel free to delete, you normally do.
I'll declare WW3 on them if they do.
Our AXIS is strong. :grin:
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Past caring.
I've had lots of GTD/banter posts deleted by the mod (s).
That's why I didn't post for a while.
This should be a GTI forum giving stick to the diesel brigade, not the other way around.
Mod (s) - feel free to delete, you normally do.
Dont mock till you try it :grin:, I was just like you 2 yrs ago dead against diesel but the GTD is up there !! :cool:
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Past caring.
I've had lots of GTD/banter posts deleted by the mod (s).
That's why I didn't post for a while.
This should be a GTI forum giving stick to the diesel brigade, not the other way around.
Mod (s) - feel free to delete, you normally do.
Dont mock till you try it :grin:, I was just like you 2 yrs ago dead against diesel but the GTD is up there !! :cool:
My thoughts exactly, 2 years ago who would have said i'd like men...... :kiss:
Jim
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Past caring.
I've had lots of GTD/banter posts deleted by the mod (s).
That's why I didn't post for a while.
This should be a GTI forum giving stick to the diesel brigade, not the other way around.
Mod (s) - feel free to delete, you normally do.
Dont mock till you try it :grin:, I was just like you 2 yrs ago dead against diesel but the GTD is up there !! :cool:
Chugga .... Chugga...
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Thought i'd share what my mates at forge motorsport have done to a golf R heres a link to there facebook page on it you might need to like forge first before you see it not sure. they have produced a healthy 320 whp using there setup and theres still things being developed for it so worth keeping an eye on.
https://www.facebook.com/anthony.iles1#!/media/set/?set=a.10150692393385394.704377.166492375393 (https://www.facebook.com/anthony.iles1#!/media/set/?set=a.10150692393385394.704377.166492375393)
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I drove a diesel for a week and was never so happy to get my GTI back.
If I had the money at the time I would have bought the R..
I say go for it, I may be tempted in the near future myself :evil:
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God I haven't stopped thinking about it, my heart saying yes but the heads saying no! Not much sleep will be happening tonight! :sad:
god I wish I had no interest in cars and trooped about in an old banger with my spare cash in my wallet!
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God I haven't stopped thinking about it, my heart saying yes but the heads saying no! Not much sleep will be happening tonight! :sad:
god I wish I had no interest in cars and trooped about in an old banger with my spare cash in my wallet!
I thought the same today , what a waist of good earned dosh , but we love our cars its our life and obsession :cool:
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Strange, Gilly is partial to a Sh!t3. I have just driven one and it exceeds its title and then some: it is a pile of Sh!t x 3 and growing. He thinks that it would be less wreckable in his gentle hands. :tongue:
A horrid car.
Kenny: If one has to choose between two evils, go for the R. But if you have the slightest semblance of taste and intelligence, keep the GTI. :smug:
its almost exactly the same car as the R underneath... just a different body and interior. may be slightly better put together. I dont judge cars on their looks alone
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Kenny - looking at your signature picture, your white GTI looks amazing - arguably better looking than the pictures of the R you posted! At the same time, if you need 4wd drive, extra bhp and less money you should just go for the R.
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Modded GTI v's R is a difficult choice to make - but remap the R and the decision is clear.
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God I haven't stopped thinking about it, my heart saying yes but the heads saying no! Not much sleep will be happening tonight! :sad:
LoL I've been there and went with my heart :grin:
and I have had no regrets at all ... ownership of the R has been bettter than I imagined ... with only marginally higher runnning costs over the GTi.
Yes, the R is still a bit pricey ... but there are a few standard items that are extras on the GTi that people seem to forget. These do narrow the gap to the GTi :
1. Xenons as standard
2. 18" Alloys as standard on R
3. Darkened Rear LED lights
4. Uprated suspension
5. Uprated Brakes
and of course :-
6. AWD
7 270bhp
I'd guess 1-5 are worth at least £2000 of the difference ?
The rest depends on how much you like AWD :grin:
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I went for it though my GTI was accident repaired so I had motivation :)
The R I test drove felt much stiffer and the steering was heavier which is what I missed with my GTI (after repairs). But if I hadn’t crashed it or if the repairs had been ok I would have not changed for the R.
About the price – well it is pricy but I put it down to £/euro exchange rate. In Germany the R (3 door manual) costs 37375 euro (£33133 at current exchange rate 1.12euro/£). In the UK it is £31115 (with higher VAT). So if the spec of the cars is the same VW are losing £2k by not selling the R in Germany (or other euro markers).
Stop living in the world of 1.5euro/£ - it’s not going to happen any time soon. Expect another price rise in September and then in January and then September....
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I am a very happy GTI owner. However, I am itching to start a thread, 'Test Drove a GTD yesterday'. :evil:
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I am a very happy GTI owner. However, I am itching to start a thread, 'Test Drove a GTD yesterday'. :evil:
Did you (drive one yesterday)? What's it like? Start a thread. I dare ya.
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I am a very happy GTI owner. However, I am itching to start a thread, 'Test Drove a GTD yesterday'. :evil:
Did you (drive one yesterday)? What's it like? Start a thread. I dare ya.
:grin:
It would be most politically incorrect to do so on a GTI Forum. :evil: :grin:
So I'll pass for the moment.
Any more abuse regarding the GTI and I might re-consider. :tongue:
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GTIs are expensive, Rs are just silly money.
The main advantage of an R over a mapped GTI is 4WD. That's all.
And you don't lose your warranty, I think that's important - don't you?
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GTIs are expensive, Rs are just silly money.
The main advantage of an R over a mapped GTI is 4WD. That's all.
And you don't lose your warranty, I think that's important - don't you?
No, you don't lose your warranty with bluefin.
Two main reasons...
My dealer never checks and if he does it has been removed anyway.
My dealer (and all the others) couldn't give two hoots if it's been mapped or not, its work for them.
I am totally happy that my car will be repaired under warranty if it goes wrong. 14k (10k with bluefin) and no problems.
I think this has been discussed in detail previously.
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I thought all new GTI/GTD/R's are now encrypted so have to be done on the bench... i.e. the dealer will know :undecided:
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10' plate running REVO stage 2 with no problems at all to date. Dealers do not care, I told my dealer not to update my ECU when in for a service to save the hassle of going to get the map on.
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10' plate running REVO stage 2 with no problems at all to date. Dealers do not care, I told my dealer not to update my ECU when in for a service to save the hassle of going to get the map on.
You still got that R itch? :smiley:
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Your balls must be itching like mad for that R :grin:
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Look at it everyday on the net! Is that sad? :rolleyes:
Just not got the cash just now, will do in a month or two but do i hold on for one more year!?
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Kenny, save your money for the pretty new body out in 2012/2013.
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Or wait till then and buy a mk6 cheap.
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Or wait till then and buy a mk6 cheap.
Kenny, save your money for the pretty new body out in 2012/2013.
I know, I know. I will wait another wee while and see what happens then. Should just be happy with what I have got! Bloody cars!
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Or wait till then and buy a mk6 cheap.
Kenny, save your money for the pretty new body out in 2012/2013.
I know, I know. I will wait another wee while and see what happens then. Should just be happy with what I have got! Bloody cars!
I tell you, worse than women (except Amanda :grin: just joking!!!!). Everytime you get inside them they cost you in more ways than one! :evil:
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Kenny, save your money for the pretty new body out in 2012/2013.
More likely in 2014
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And start praying they use the new Audi 5 pot in a production golf at some point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMytT4Sokew&feature=related 5 pot warble :drool:
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And start praying they use the new Audi 5 pot in a production golf at some point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMytT4Sokew&feature=related 5 pot warble :drool:
:drool:
But which will push the price up another £5k :grin:
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And start praying they use the new Audi 5 pot in a production golf at some point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMytT4Sokew&feature=related 5 pot warble :drool:
Did a double take, the video looks like it's being played at a fast speed. The thing they do on poor films to show car chases. :grin:
Yes, a five pot would be nice in a Golf, far better looking that the RS3.
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just aswell I never went for that R! Seems it may of had a hard life for the magazine shoots and reviews, spotted it on a few different car websites, Parkers being one! Salesman must of forgot to mention this lol!
Kenny