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Title: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 04 July 2011, 16:38
Found the cause of my squeak!

A tiny bit of anti-slip on the belt and its sweet.

I can see the profile of the belt move about 1-2mm across the pulley. This syncs up with the squeak.

Tension is ok, alignment is fine, everything is located correctly and torqued up.

Any ideas? Suggestions how I may fix it.

Without a new belt our spraying belt spray on it every week.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 04 July 2011, 16:48
Did you change water pump, tensioner?
How do you know the belt tension is spot on, could it be a tad tight?
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 04 July 2011, 17:42
waterpump,tensioner and idler pulley all replaced.

True, it could be a tad tight, but whats the best way of relieving this?

back off the tension using a bolt and reapply?
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 04 July 2011, 18:29
Yes you could give it a try.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: sharki786 on 04 July 2011, 21:57
the belt ment to twist 90 degs
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 04 July 2011, 22:20
the belt ment to twist 90 degs

?????
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 04 July 2011, 22:42
the belt ment to twist 90 degs

?????

On the longest run of the belt, grab it with your finger and thumb, how much can you twist it?
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 05 July 2011, 08:30
I see, can twist 90 degrees, same principle as 15mm deflection.

Tension is fine, noise comes back after a few days very faintly, a LITTLE bit of anti slip and the noise goes away.

Done 2500 Miles+ since cambelt change, so no problems there.

Doing my nut in.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2011, 10:07
I would say either the water pump, tensioner pulley bearings are a bit noisey, or you need to back the belt tension off ever so slightly.
Was the job done at a garage? parts from the dealer?
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: javalin on 05 July 2011, 10:48
+1

90 twist should be "reasonable" force, not finger breaking force.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 05 July 2011, 14:11
I would say either the water pump, tensioner pulley bearings are a bit noisey, or you need to back the belt tension off ever so slightly.
Was the job done at a garage? parts from the dealer?

Gen parts, DIY though.

Twist force is reasonable, nothing excessive.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 July 2011, 14:50
Try backing off the tension very slightly.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 05 July 2011, 16:37
Try backing off the tension very slightly.

Will do. Nice one
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: WadGTI on 05 July 2011, 16:47
Oil too think perhaps?

I forgot to change my oil in one of my old cars in 2 years and the tensioner came loose which cause the timing chain to rattle inside the engine. no damage was done to the valve - but the oil was pretty think - I was sure this was the culprit.
Title: Re: Cambelt moves side to side!!!!
Post by: Big Tone on 05 July 2011, 18:51
Oil too think perhaps?

I forgot to change my oil in one of my old cars in 2 years and the tensioner came loose which cause the timing chain to rattle inside the engine. no damage was done to the valve - but the oil was pretty think - I was sure this was the culprit.

Nope, 5w30 3 months old.
sump and rocker cover removed and cleaned
Chain tensioner its fine
Pick up pipe and oilways cleaned

Its definitely the belt.