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Title: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: flat4pete on 03 July 2011, 12:15
Hi my names pete i live in devon, fairly new to the golf scene as iv got two classic beetles and a t4.
iv just bought a mk1  golf gti cabrolet,that i plan to restore, its a b plate and looks pretty tidy.

when i was checking the car over, on the side of it there was a decal saying ''black special'', iv tried having a look round the web for a bit more information on this a cant really find anything on it.

Could anyone possible fill me in on what the decal means becuase im stumped???
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: raferackstraw on 03 July 2011, 12:30
probably an aftermarket chav decal mate, never heard of a black special  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Ant1981 on 03 July 2011, 14:14
probably an aftermarket chav decal mate, never heard of a black special  :wink:

Black special, is one of my classic black pudding sarnies  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Komenda on 03 July 2011, 17:31

They made a Black Edition in 85 and 86. Came with Montego black metallic paint, black interior with white stripes and either tarantula (http://cabby-info.com/images/Wheels/Tarantula.gif) or zandvoort wheels (http://cabby-info.com/images/Wheels/Zandvoort1.gif)

Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: raferackstraw on 03 July 2011, 18:34
there ya go a man who knows his stuff, check out the paint code if you can find the build sticker on your car to see if it matches what komenda says, b reg would be a 84/85 so year is there abouts.
 'black special' still sounds like its been added ala chav tho
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Wayne on 03 July 2011, 21:36
Sounds aftermarket. :undecided:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: flat4pete on 05 July 2011, 16:20
hi is thwere any way to find out how many of these cars were made ? and does anybody know of any on the road
cheers Pete
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Komenda on 05 July 2011, 16:30
If it is a Black Edition, then not very many. As for how many that exactly is, I wouldn't know where to start short of sending a letter to Volkwagen.

According to this http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_cabriolet only 11 cars for 85/86 are on the road in the UK.
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 05 July 2011, 16:42
hi is thwere any way to find out how many of these cars were made ? and does anybody know of any on the road
cheers Pete

down the bottom of this page here: http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118 (http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118) you will find UK production figures for mk1 cabbys

you can find out how many are left here: http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf (http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf)
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 July 2011, 16:51
hi is thwere any way to find out how many of these cars were made ? and does anybody know of any on the road
cheers Pete

down the bottom of this page here: http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118 (http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118) you will find UK production figures for mk1 cabbys

you can find out how many are left here: http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf (http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf)

I just cant get my head round these figures...... way too low... also don't understand where you differentiate between mk1 and 2 in the same year.. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 05 July 2011, 16:53
hi is thwere any way to find out how many of these cars were made ? and does anybody know of any on the road
cheers Pete

down the bottom of this page here: http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118 (http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118) you will find UK production figures for mk1 cabbys

you can find out how many are left here: http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf (http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf)

I just cant get my head round these figures...... way too low... also don't understand where you differentiate between mk1 and 2 in the same year.. Am I missing something?


which ones... the production figures or how many left?
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: raferackstraw on 05 July 2011, 20:27
If it is a Black Edition, then not very many. As for how many that exactly is, I wouldn't know where to start short of sending a letter to Volkwagen.

According to this http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_cabriolet only 11 cars for 85/86 are on the road in the UK.

 :grin: :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin: there's only one for 1985 that must be mine  :cool: ooooooh im famous  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 05 July 2011, 20:33
If it is a Black Edition, then not very many. As for how many that exactly is, I wouldn't know where to start short of sending a letter to Volkwagen.

According to this http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_cabriolet only 11 cars for 85/86 are on the road in the UK.

 :grin: :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin: there's only one for 1985 that must be mine  :cool: ooooooh im famous  :grin:

what spec is yours? is that what it says on the V5?
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: raferackstraw on 05 July 2011, 20:38
v5 says golf cabrio gti
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 05 July 2011, 20:48
v5 says golf cabrio gti

not so good news then

http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_cabrio_gti (http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_cabrio_gti)

commoner!  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: raferackstraw on 05 July 2011, 20:50
ah b0llocks there was me thinking my 15mins was here, oh well back to the drawing board  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 05 July 2011, 21:01
ah b0llocks there was me thinking my 15mins was here, oh well back to the drawing board  :grin:

interestingly the rivage for 1991 stands at 47

http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_gti_rivage (http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_gti_rivage)

one less  :tongue:

be interesting to see how many are still left in 6 years time when mine would be of equivalent age to yours now!
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Stupidog on 06 July 2011, 03:49
hi is thwere any way to find out how many of these cars were made ? and does anybody know of any on the road
cheers Pete


My Black Edtion GTi, C reg, 86 , I know the wheels are wrong but P-sl*ts ( Now with the center caps) is the way I roll  :grin:
It came with BBS RA on which are finding there way to one of my other cars. The seats are wrecked and are currently getting replaced with black leather / red piping
I keep meaning to check the paint code, must do that to touch up the bumpers

Oh and it now sports the correct grill which took a day out of my life to refurbish

(http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz88/Stupidog007/Black%20GTi/GTiBefore.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 July 2011, 09:32
hi is thwere any way to find out how many of these cars were made ? and does anybody know of any on the road
cheers Pete

down the bottom of this page here: http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118 (http://www.mk1vw.info/modules.php?name=Info&op=viewtut&id=118) you will find UK production figures for mk1 cabbys

you can find out how many are left here: http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf (http://howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=golf)

I just cant get my head round these figures...... way too low... also don't understand where you differentiate between mk1 and 2 in the same year.. Am I missing something?


which ones... the production figures or how many left?

Everything on the site to be honest. 2 golf cabs registered in 2010 are sorn?...  Here http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/volkswagen_golf_gti there are more 1983 golf sorned than any other, does this include early mk2?. it makes my year look like the least rare car ever, early mk2s are almost extinct until 89-90...
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: flat4pete on 06 July 2011, 18:37
i will check the log book tomorrow when i pick it up.
Guy on my black special it has got a decal running along the rear quater panel saying black special, i cantsee one on yours, did it have one?
cheers
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 06 July 2011, 20:25
i will check the log book tomorrow when i pick it up.
Guy on my black special it has got a decal running along the rear quater panel saying black special, i cantsee one on yours, did it have one?
cheers

my Rivage does have decals... but they are shoddy replicas... gunning for some genuine ones in the near future

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3633416749_53455ff84b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guyfrankland/3633416749/)
mk1 Rivage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guyfrankland/3633416749/) by Guy Frankland (http://www.flickr.com/people/guyfrankland/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 July 2011, 21:01
^^^ bet they're hard to come by.... Mine needs new rear badges but since the RLR one is irreplaceable I'm going to attempt to redurb them.  What are yours made out of?
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 06 July 2011, 22:07
^^^ bet they're hard to come by.... Mine needs new rear badges but since the RLR one is irreplaceable I'm going to attempt to redurb them.  What are yours made out of?

some chap on the mk1 forum does ones which are apparently spot on

not sure what they're made of... but they're coming off when i start the cosmetic refurb anyway, so i can polish and then add the stone chip protectors on the clipper kit  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 July 2011, 09:14
^^^ bet they're hard to come by.... Mine needs new rear badges but since the RLR one is irreplaceable I'm going to attempt to redurb them.  What are yours made out of?

some chap on the mk1 forum does ones which are apparently spot on

not sure what they're made of... but they're coming off when i start the cosmetic refurb anyway, so i can polish and then add the stone chip protectors on the clipper kit  :wink:


Are they solid badges at least?... I can't remember....

Stone chip protectors on the kit, what's that?
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: Guy on 07 July 2011, 09:17
^^^ bet they're hard to come by.... Mine needs new rear badges but since the RLR one is irreplaceable I'm going to attempt to redurb them.  What are yours made out of?

some chap on the mk1 forum does ones which are apparently spot on

not sure what they're made of... but they're coming off when i start the cosmetic refurb anyway, so i can polish and then add the stone chip protectors on the clipper kit  :wink:


Are they solid badges at least?... I can't remember....

Stone chip protectors on the kit, what's that?

no... they're just decals

stone chip protectors... for the front of the rear wheel arch

http://www.typ-17.de/product_info.php/info/p10230_Steinschlagschutzfolie-links.html (http://www.typ-17.de/product_info.php/info/p10230_Steinschlagschutzfolie-links.html)
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 July 2011, 09:24
^^^ bet they're hard to come by.... Mine needs new rear badges but since the RLR one is irreplaceable I'm going to attempt to redurb them.  What are yours made out of?

some chap on the mk1 forum does ones which are apparently spot on

not sure what they're made of... but they're coming off when i start the cosmetic refurb anyway, so i can polish and then add the stone chip protectors on the clipper kit  :wink:


Are they solid badges at least?... I can't remember....

Stone chip protectors on the kit, what's that?

no... they're just decals

stone chip protectors... for the front of the rear wheel arch

http://www.typ-17.de/product_info.php/info/p10230_Steinschlagschutzfolie-links.html (http://www.typ-17.de/product_info.php/info/p10230_Steinschlagschutzfolie-links.html)

That's kind of what I was getting at when I was asking what they were made of...  Easier to reproduce then. :afro:  wonder if I could get plastic badges replicated cheap enough............

What's the stuff in the link then, some kind of film?
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: chalky white on 28 October 2011, 23:31
Rivages were not fitted with stone chip foils, so they tend to suffer paint loss on rear arch covers.
Confusing with the Mk's as there is no MK2 Cabby it went straight to the MK3 shape later. The MK1 Cabby had a facelift at the same year time as the tin top, around 1988. It was given the big bumper or clipper kit.
They also did the all white edition too.
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 28 October 2011, 23:38
i will check the log book tomorrow when i pick it up.
Guy on my black special it has got a decal running along the rear quater panel saying black special, i cantsee one on yours, did it have one?
cheers

my Rivage does have decals... but they are shoddy replicas... gunning for some genuine ones in the near future

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3633416749_53455ff84b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guyfrankland/3633416749/)
mk1 Rivage (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guyfrankland/3633416749/) by Guy Frankland (http://www.flickr.com/people/guyfrankland/), on Flickr


Looking nice there Guy. Might even get one myself next year.

Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 October 2011, 12:03
^^^ once you've found a Targa top for it.  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: chalky white on 30 October 2011, 22:55
^^^ once you've found a Targa top for it.  :grin:

LOl deffo not.

Guy I retail stone foils etc on the MK1 OC and have supplied a few sets in clear without the dots on to other Rivage owners, so it shows the base colour through.
If you  fancy some just give me a shout.
The Guy who did the Rivage decals which were spot on has left the MK1 OC, which is a shame as he is a top man.
His Rivage is outstanding.

Your Rivage looks immaculate.
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 October 2011, 12:07
^^^ once you've found a Targa top for it.  :grin:

LOl deffo not.

Guy I retail stone foils etc on the MK1 OC and have supplied a few sets in clear without the dots on to other Rivage owners, so it shows the base colour through.
If you  fancy some just give me a shout.
The Guy who did the Rivage decals which were spot on has left the MK1 OC, which is a shame as he is a top man.
His Rivage is outstanding.

Your Rivage looks immaculate.

Well he is a professional detailer by trade..... I've seen it up close and it is very nice... Just needs to tidy up the bay now if he hasn't already.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Mk 1 Golf GTi Cabriolet
Post by: chalky white on 31 October 2011, 15:55
It's really good if your in the trade too and have some contacts and skills.
I repainted my bumpers etc in the back garden with rattle cans, as they were pretty poorly done before.
It turned our really well once I polished all the dead midges that were stuck in the paint  :laugh: they just love the smell of paint.
The expensive quotes from the body shop were a bit heavy.
I have seen these detailers doing the work on you tube, it's amazing how some will come to your works car park and do it there.
very impressive.