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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Perfect 8 on 08 April 2005, 13:33
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Hi All,
My 'Perfect 8v' is slowly undergoing a systematic failure of all parts :cry:
I bought it for £3k from Volkswizard last year - hoping for trouble free (ish) motoring. Having now spent the best part of a grand on it over the last 11 months (it'd had 2.5k spent on it in the 2-years before i bought it) I'm becoming slightly disheartened with Golf ownership (3rd Golf, 4th VW so far-only. I'm only 22!)
Does anyone else keep track of how much their beloved costs them - I'm beginning to think it is a bad idea keeping a record!
I did love my car, but I'm now being tempted to rectify all that is wrong and send her on her way! :sad:
Does anybody else experience the highs and (lots of) lows with their piece of German machinery?
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:smiley: i bought my first Gti 4 years ago with a knocking bottom end and rebuilt the engine and put in a new clutch..........not content with that i then had to replace the following...........all shocks,front suspension bushes,ball joint,track rod ends,all the wheel bearings,2 calipers,fuel collection box etc etc,but once i had done all that and spent about £1300 on bits alone over a 6 month period it never missed a beat and only needed servicing and was still going like a train when i sold it last year..........the upshot of all this is that although i have had the best part of 300 cars over the last 25 years it's the only one that still made me grin to drive it even after all the heartache,so much so in fact that i have an atlas gey '88 parked on my drive that's gonna get 2.1ed!!!..........also have a '90 driver for everyday with girly pas!! stick with it,after all you don't really want a Sa*o do you?? :wink:
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Owning any car will result in bills, but I'm sure that's not the point you're trying to make here; after all would u expect yourself to do the london marathon without careful preparation when you're in the latter part of your life!
My GTI has cost me about £2000 on top of the £800 I bought her for, half of that being mods though and I love every minute of owning her !
Still what else from that era has survived ??
How many 205 GTI / R5GTT / Daily Driven RST etc do you see on the road, hell even Renault 19 and Clio 16v are getting low in numbers - I share your pain in unforseen expensive in caring for your pride and joy but things could be ALOT worse !!
My previous #cough# Ford ate 3 gearboxes before I saw the light and got a GTI - now that's a proper pain !
Stick with her matey, you'll not be disappointed !
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I agree with David,
My GTi is old and in places a bit ratty but costs nothing like the maintenance of the mini which is three years newer!
Regular preventative maintenance is the key. CHange all your fluids every 6,000 miles, grease everything that needs greasing twice as often as the haynes sugests and just generally pamer it. The initial outlay of this will be saved when it runs perfectly for years to come.
Nick
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all pleasure mines a heap o` sh!t with no wheels or windows rite now, but the few days i drove it and the cost and earache its gvin me now are no-where near as much as the smile it gave me when it was running right , Roll on INTERS when shes gunna b half finished n workin again
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expensive but a pleasure to drive :wink:
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YEAH U TEND TO FIND YOU FIX ONE PROBLEM AND THEN ANOTHER COMES ALONG!!
Mine has not let me down mecanically yey and i dont see it doing so to be fair ive put loads of new bits on mine plus a fair few mods along the way but im a genuine nut and i wont put aftermarket stuff on my golf so it costs me alot more than it could do! look after the car and sooner than later you will have replaced everything!!! lol then it wont go wrong again!! :wink: keep it u know u wanna
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it can be both pleasure and pain, bit like s&m if your into all that! everytime mines gone wrong it pisses me off no end but i always try to look for a silver lining that its a good opportunity to upgrade to get the best out of my little car!! there will always be something thats not perfect on a 15+ year old car so you'll have to expect to spend money on it. the best thing i ever did was to have a go myself, i dread to think what i'd have spend in labour rates if i'd paid someone to do all the things i've done. plus you get that great sense of satisfaction when your hoofing along thinking, "i fixed/replaced/repaired that"
and at the end of the day.....mans got to have a hobby!!!
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it can be both pleasure and pain, bit like s&m if your into all that! everytime mines gone wrong it pisses me off no end but i always try to look for a silver lining that its a good opportunity to upgrade to get the best out of my little car!! there will always be something thats not perfect on a 15+ year old car so you'll have to expect to spend money on it. the best thing i ever did was to have a go myself, i dread to think what i'd have spend in labour rates if i'd paid someone to do all the things i've done. plus you get that great sense of satisfaction when your hoofing along thinking, "i fixed/replaced/repaired that"
and at the end of the day.....mans got to have a hobby!!!
Too right! I rebuilt the mini from scratch myself with no experiance of such a project before. It took me 9 months, several pints of blood and a hell of a lot of bad words, but I did it. The total spend was somewhere in the region of £9K had I payed labour for a garage to do it all it would probably be double that!
When I ever I take her out I feel an overwhelming sense of satisfaction at knowing my hard work and effort have resulted in a blinding fast car that draws looks wherever I go. Maybe onedaythe Golf will be the same, but a new job and the possibility of a mortgage would suggest I may have to wait till the onset of old age and retirement to tackle that one!
Horney
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They are old cars. You wont get huge reliabilty anymore.
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should have given me 3k for mine instead :grin:
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i bought my mk2 16v 18 months ago so far i`ve had to change a ball joint and tighten a wheel bearing it`s flown through 2 mots gave it a full service last year, the parts cost £51 that included oil+filter ,plugs,air filter,rotor arm,dizzy cap + feul filter, its got 193,000 miles on it and runs like a dream, you allways get good ones and bad ones whatever you pay for them, its just that there`s more better ones than bad ones with vw`s. stick with it mate, you`ll allways regret selling it :wink:
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Don't know if anyone else has this but mine hates being off the road - if were using my wifes GTi for more than a couple of days, mine sulks and breaks - I swear its scary! a couple of months ago it decided to refuse to run and start properly anfter a week off the road  (fixed with new plugs!) then the other month it had a three day break and the oil seal blew on me on ther oil cooler (0655 on a dark morning) on route to work lucky cost little and no damage done - I thinks haunted or somethng!
seriously though I think they're painless to own if you can nip things in the bud, and for theyre age a good MK2 is really relable
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I have bought a 1.6 dirt cheap, and it is immaculate, and despite the high mileage, runs brilliantly, despite me driving it really hard. I have always had a soft spot for Golfs, even though the LHD 1976 Mk1 I had in the early 80's rusted away before my very eyes.
I decided a few years ago to buy carefully-the best car I could get for the lowest price possible. And if they break, repair them or scrap them. I would rather do this that watch a newer car sit on my drive hemmoraging money away in depreciation.
But all cars will break at one time or another ( My works A3 has just knackered it's suspension at 27,000 miles), but Golf's are cheap to fix (in comparison to the Saab I ran for a couple of years).
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very pleasurable but money is the problem with owning any car especially an older one. but i find that i know where i am with a vw. disheartening at times but i still love it! :wink:
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My 1.8 J plate Driver cost me £750 right at the end of 2004. Had 125k on it when I got it, now on 129k.
The alternator went in five days, then the battery.
Got the CV gaitors changed a few weeks ago, and the mechanic told me when I came to pick it up that it needs a new lower arm (?....lost me now), so it's getting one of those.
It still needs two new rear shocks, two new headlamps (needed spotlamps too but have changed them already), new plugs and leads, the handbrake sorting (it's really rubbish), and various other things that my mechanic told me about that went straight over my head.
I love driving the car, it's great fun, but I'm worrying about it constantly, and am nearly on first name terms with my local RAC guy. :cry:
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Interesting topic, our car cam from Volkswizard too, again the same sum of money was parted with, we spent nearly 3 months and 3 thousand miles before purchasing the car that we did for top money.
The car has been an absolute pleasure to be with and drive, very simple and yet though very effective and very addictive, I have mcome to this scene after a long line of high performance Japanese cars, the last of which we still own as another toy but between the two only my GTi get used everyday and everywhere.
The total bill for the GTi is at 7k approx since we bought it, but we had an objective in mind and that was to produce a daily driver and a demo for our workshop, I haven't or don't be-grudge it one bit, it's a hobby become business but I enjoy my hobby and my job, therefore it's a total pleasure broken of fixed.
Keep with it and keep them on the road and alive, doesn't matter how old or new a car is they all have bad and good habits, at the end of the day they can all be a nightmare but don't dispare because they can all also be a dream..
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My valver's got a list of problems longer than an A4 sheet of paper, and the money's just going to keep on rocketing.
But I drove it on Saturday on a 200 mile round trip down the motorway, it just keeps on giving me the biggest smile.
Gonna be worth every penny.
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true :wink:
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I always go throgh this debate every couple of months, I own my golf outright, but you do spend a bit on them every month, if they need to or no :) compare that with a new car, trouble free, but then you have the monthly payment to contend with!
At the moment i am loving my golf :) a few times i thought of selling her and getting a 1.2 clio (cheap as chips in all departments) trouble free but boaring!
It's the fact that the golf is my only car so i need it for work, so it eats alot of my weekends :(
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its a balance really, you get the fun of ragging it down the b-roads, then you get shafted for repairs as everything gets old
my old golf tho was a great laugh cos it cost me 400quids and i just kept it running for college so my bills werent to massive excepts for the mot where i need new brake hoses and tyres. so it was a pleasure all the way for me, also great for the rush hour as everyone else drove shiny new beemers and mercs and where affraid of cutting me up :grin:
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definitely a pleasure. I'm on my first golf mk 2 16 valve. I bought it for 500 quid and it was an absolute dog. I didnt know it at the time but i then went on to replace just about every part you can imagine. It has made me lots of new friends an i know a lot of mechanics now. Also I've learn't a hell of a lot more about cars. I especially love the ownership thing when you pass anothe golf ion the road and they flash you as you check each others golfs out. Its a good feeling i love it, need a bit of welding doing though but i spose thats nothing for an eighteen year old car. I still rip the sh!t out of some new cars :grin:
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Pleasure! Just got my 2nd Mk2 8v and i am addicted... As a daily driver thats fun to drive its great. Firstly i hate not owning my car, depreciation upsets me!
Now I appreciate my golf costs me a little more to run than my old cavalier but the benefits of having a car thats so lovely to drive suit me fine! If you like driving and can sacrifice a few extra pennies its worth it. But i do mean a few, compare parts and labour (ie. time to fit) to other GTi styled things and it does make sense. Of course theres no more £20 remoulds for me :sad: ....
Plus of course its a classic and deserves to be preserved!!
Now i just need to figure out what to do with my old dented one..... (damn evil white van drivers who leave without leaving insurance details!)
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All Pleasure,
1) Be prepared to roll you sleaves up, it saves money and adds to the ownership experience.
2) The parts are very cheap when compared to newer cars.
3) There are cheaper older cars to run, (cavalier) but that's not the point is it? They dont drive anything like the GTI.
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I'm onto my 2nd mk2 and I want another one, only a bit faster! My 1st golf, a driver (H reg) cost me a fortune - new engine, weber carb, driveshafts, balljoints, a few dents over the years, but it was enjoyable apart from the carb icing in the winter. My GTi has been great since I bought it. A couple of minor repairs but nothing major. Wonderful to drive and has only once let me down (gear selector rod fell off), costing me nothing to repair because a mate had a spare. Its used as a daily driver and my work car - I deliver pizza as a 2nd job!
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Pleasure mixed with pain generally from skinned knuckles or sliced hands arms crushed toes new t shirts!! But when you race a new golf gti and absolutley blitz it you look in the mirror and you have a big cheesy grin on your face and country roads well..... why buy a motorbike!!
Try running a new car for the same as ur golf £20 £30 for most bits compared to £300 for a service every 10000 miles and if anything goes wrong with it then you have to take out a mortgage and take it to a garage because everything is so complex and computerised that you daredn't even change the oil on it.
trolley jack and a socket set oh and a big hammer and molgrips make it an easy choice can you still buy new bits for 18 year old cars not made by VW you try and get bits for a pug 205gti no longer in production or stock usually!
definitley more pleasure than pain and most of all you can't beat a mk2 slammed with nice rims for the looks can you????
:cool: :cool: :cool: :grin: :angry: sums it up really!
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mine is mostly pleasure but it does have a few wee niggly problems which cause me a bit of pain but once these are sorted it will be pleasure all the way
its even a pleasure just looking at a GTI