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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Hartside on 25 June 2011, 11:16

Title: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Hartside on 25 June 2011, 11:16
Just had the car serviced this morning and it has noticably more instantaneous grunt from 2500 - 4000 rpm. Would they have changed the map on the ECU?
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Buck on 25 June 2011, 11:21
I know when mine went in for some warranty work they updated the ECU with the latest version (visibly I now have gear change indicator in the dash but not sure what else it changed)
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Keithuk on 25 June 2011, 14:05
I know when mine went in for some warranty work they updated the ECU with the latest version (visibly I now have gear change indicator in the dash but not sure what else it changed)
So you didn't have the digital gear indicator before then?

I asked the dealer about this when I had mine but they couldn't enable it. Someone else said they had theirs enabled after the dealer spoke with technical at Milton Keynes and they said there was an ecu software update for this. I shall have to get onto them again.

digital gear indicator (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=181959.0)

I had my first service in February and mine wasn't updated as far as I know, well the digital gear indicator still doesn't show?
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Hartside on 25 June 2011, 14:11
Mines always had the gear indicator showing since pick up. It's the throttle response that's just changed
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Keithuk on 25 June 2011, 19:10
Mines always had the gear indicator showing since pick up.
But what year is your Carbon Grey 5dr GTI?
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Hartside on 26 June 2011, 12:07
It's a 2010 (2011 MY), exactly 1 year old now
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Snoopy on 26 June 2011, 12:33
My GTI was serviced in late March but i have not noticed any change. Maybe theres a new ECU update since then  :undecided:
Mine always had the gearchange indicator as did the 09 GTI i went out in for a test drive in mid 2009 (I remember thinking oh just like the mk1)
I think the gear change indicator update thing was a GTD model year change iirc.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Buck on 28 June 2011, 07:44
I know when mine went in for some warranty work they updated the ECU with the latest version (visibly I now have gear change indicator in the dash but not sure what else it changed)
So you didn't have the digital gear indicator before then?

I asked the dealer about this when I had mine but they couldn't enable it. Someone else said they had theirs enabled after the dealer spoke with technical at Milton Keynes and they said there was an ecu software update for this. I shall have to get onto them again.

digital gear indicator (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=181959.0)

I had my first service in February and mine wasn't updated as far as I know, well the digital gear indicator still doesn't show?

Hi Keith

Yes it was me!  
Originally they replied "no" but persistence paid off!
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: squirrelGTi on 28 June 2011, 09:47
Mine just went in for a service and they didn't mention anything about ECU update. It was exactly a year old on the 25th June.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: AlanD on 28 June 2011, 10:27
I hight doubt VW have adjusted your ECU to give you more power, adjust torque across the rev range of anything like that.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: VWKev on 28 June 2011, 11:31
First I've ever heard of an ECU update needing done.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: RedHP on 08 July 2011, 17:07
I spoke to Superchips last week, who had a Mk6 Git (manual, not DSG) as a company car. They stuck it on the rolling road and found that it gave 230-odd hp, and after their ECU remap it gave 275 hp. They reckon the higher standard bhp was due to it being a manual. Wonder how much mine gives out?
After a good service it may/should perform a little better due to the service eg oil change, filter changes etc etc. But to feel an enhanced performance after a service is good news, I might take mine to your place !!!

Red
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: R32UK on 08 July 2011, 17:50
I spoke to Superchips last week, who had a Mk6 Git (manual, not DSG) as a company car. They stuck it on the rolling road and found that it gave 230-odd hp, and after their ECU remap it gave 275 hp. They reckon the higher standard bhp was due to it being a manual. Wonder how much mine gives out?
After a good service it may/should perform a little better due to the service eg oil change, filter changes etc etc. But to feel an enhanced performance after a service is good news, I might take mine to your place !!!

Red

ahhh the good old rolling road lottery!!  :laugh:

Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: RedHP on 08 July 2011, 18:08
Expand please. Okay hand-made engines (i.e Nissank GTR) I can understand, but why the variation in bhp on machine built ones (to similar spec etc)....?
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: GolfTi on 08 July 2011, 20:02
Manual vs DSG.
95RON vs 99 RON.
VW being a little more conservative with figures compared with Ford/Vauxhall/French.

A superchipped/bluefinned GTI is simply amazing.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: R32UK on 08 July 2011, 20:21
Expand please. Okay hand-made engines (i.e Nissank GTR) I can understand, but why the variation in bhp on machine built ones (to similar spec etc)....?
a standard GTI does not/ will not put out 230bhp.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Adam on 08 July 2011, 20:29
Expand please. Okay hand-made engines (i.e Nissank GTR) I can understand, but why the variation in bhp on machine built ones (to similar spec etc)....?
a standard GTI does not/ will not put out 230bhp.

There is many ways of giving false readings on a dyno. Even that of 30BHP.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: R32UK on 08 July 2011, 20:30
Expand please. Okay hand-made engines (i.e Nissank GTR) I can understand, but why the variation in bhp on machine built ones (to similar spec etc)....?
a standard GTI does not/ will not put out 230bhp.

There is many ways of giving false readings on a dyno. Even that of 30BHP.

my point exactly  :wink: :nerd:
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: GolfTi on 08 July 2011, 20:49
Expand please. Okay hand-made engines (i.e Nissank GTR) I can understand, but why the variation in bhp on machine built ones (to similar spec etc)....?
a standard GTI does not/ will not put out 230bhp.

I'm sure it's possible.

+ 5% for manufacture's conservative figures.
+ 5% for high RON fuel/ideal conditions and you're there.

Not saying all GTIs put out this bhp, just that it's possible.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Jimmymature on 08 July 2011, 20:59
Expand please. Okay hand-made engines (i.e Nissank GTR) I can understand, but why the variation in bhp on machine built ones (to similar spec etc)....?
a standard GTI does not/ will not put out 230bhp.

I'm sure it's possible.

+ 5% for manufacture's conservative figures.
+ 5% for high RON fuel/ideal conditions and you're there.

Not saying all GTIs put out this bhp, just that it's possible.

I've seen a few companies talking about high numbers on stock GTI's - Evo did when they did the RS v GTI v Megane V Leon, all three were up on standard apart from the RS that was down.

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/246988/ford_focus_rs_v_renaultsport_megane_250_cup_v_seat_leon_cupra_r_v_vw_golf_gti.html

I've seen higher numbers from stock cars from Revo and Superchips.  I know some people inflate the figures for their own purpose but....



Jim
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: Snoopy on 09 July 2011, 10:33
Im wondering if my mk6 GTI has now had an ECU update after it went in the last time to attempt at fixing the interior rattles as the power delivery seems different from what i remember.


Maual gearbox:
If im in 3rd gear at 30mph and put my foot down to the floor.
Theres a hickup for about 0.5 seconds like a cut in power, then the power comes in.
Then when it gets to 3500rpm it seems to come in harder again.


Im sure it was very smooth power delivery before with no hickup or extra pull at 3.5K. :undecided:


Maybe mines started to suffer the mk6 famous fuel pump fail? Or it was just remapped by VW? or its just changed with more miles been on the clock.
Title: Re: First service - ECU update?
Post by: R32UK on 09 July 2011, 13:34
It sounds more like an issue with your plugs or coil pack.... this is similar to what mine had before the problems began.


Dont rest until it is sorted by VW  :lipsrsealed: