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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: dTEA on 23 June 2011, 21:43
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As per the title really. How many MK5 owners have experienced Air Con failure and been told the Compressor is to blame, and had to dig deep to pay the usual £1000+ repair bill for something that appears to be an established fault?
Can you list the year ie. 05/06 etc and the year of repair?
Im saying all this due to this http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=197875.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=197875.0)
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Air con compressor just failed on my MkV GTi -- indy VW engineer says compressor can only be bought from VW (£550), doesn't know of any reconditioned units. Is this what others have found? Or are recon compressors available??
Add my vote to the complaint to VW, my engineer knows its a regular fault after ~4 years due to the compressor running all the time, a daft design principle.
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Have a look on the mkvgti forum as a few people were selling second-hand and also recommending certain compressors. A few were saying it's the certain models seizing and others are fine? VW are still refuting it's an issue despite a link to Germany VWs goodwill gestures being beyond the UKs
Either way good luck :smiley:
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Mine is failing I am told, I have an ac leak but can't find where, but given the noise coming from the compressor at idle it is certainly heading down.
I think my garage will be able to source me one cheaper than the vw one and it would do the same job, anybody know what the alternative is to the vw one?
I have to say I will probably be keeping my 56 gti for 2-3 years so I need my ac working as I use it all the time
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Is the sanden pxe16 the preferred replacement pump?
Is it worth phoning up a vw garage to ask if this is something vw recognise needs repaired even outside warranty? Long shot I know
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The A/C is working continually at 2% so yeah you are always using it....hence the failures IMHO.
Loads of alternative options mkvgti.co.UK have best advice.
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Mines just died. Its in with the garage now so not looking farward to what they find or the cost.
By the way has anyone bought one of these http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html (http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html)
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Sorry to drag this slightly OT but are MK4 A/C compressors prone to this noise and subsequent failure also?
Thanks in advance.
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Sorry to drag this slightly OT but are MK4 A/C compressors prone to this noise and subsequent failure also?
Thanks in advance.
Not sure if its exactly the same but certainly MK4's with Climatronic suffered a lot of problems with the air con system :sad:
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Sorry to drag this slightly OT but are MK4 A/C compressors prone to this noise and subsequent failure also?
Thanks in advance.
Not sure if its exactly the same but certainly MK4's with Climatronic suffered a lot of problems with the air con system :sad:
Thanks mate, every TDI 150 I've seen rattles from the comp - an no it's notnthe idler :grin:
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Sorry to drag this slightly OT but are MK4 A/C compressors prone to this noise and subsequent failure also?
Thanks in advance.
Not sure if its exactly the same but certainly MK4's with Climatronic suffered a lot of problems with the air con system :sad:
Thanks mate, every TDI 150 I've seen rattles from the comp - an no it's notnthe idler :grin:
Get a 130 with manual air con instead, whack up the boost and it will be quicker than any 150 this side of a turbo rebuild
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Mines just died. Its in with the garage now so not looking farward to what they find or the cost.
By the way has anyone bought one of these http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html (http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html)
Rhyso your DAMN straight on the manual air con...this constant 2% is b0ll0x
But back on topic, yeah I think the guys over at www.mk5golfgti.co.uk (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk) were saying this but also german eBay. Do a search over there as loads more peeps posting about it.
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Mines just died. Its in with the garage now so not looking farward to what they find or the cost.
By the way has anyone bought one of these http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html (http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html)
Seems good value for an AC compressor.
Dose anyone know what actually fails?
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I don't know what fails but I know I need a new one :sad:
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Mines just died. Its in with the garage now so not looking farward to what they find or the cost.
By the way has anyone bought one of these http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html (http://www.sinspeed.co.uk/store/volkswagen-golf-mk5-air-conditioning-compressor.html)
Seems good value for an AC compressor.
Dose anyone know what actually fails?
apparently there is a set of bearings relating to a form of clutch that seize. They say the clutch can be replaced but it costs as much as the compressor anyway so they usually replace the whole lot. The earlier models used 2 certain brands that were prone but the later ones are more robust...
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Forgot to post but mine has died and the garage has asked for £1350 to fix it.
To be honest this it the second major fault (the previous was a turbo failure) along with numerous small niggles with the car and i don't think it'll be with me much longer. My first VW and sadly looks as though its my last. In 15 years of motoring i've owned 4 cars myself and had 6 through work and I have never had so many problems with a car, not even from my daewoo lanos. Its rediculous the GTI has only done 31K for crying out load.
Anyway i feel better after a bit of a rant.
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German build quality ain't what it used to be. You want it to last buy Jap but then they all loom dated after 4yrs IMO. ace to drive tho. In gems of the golf try an indie garage if you want to fix and sell on. It'll save £100s off the bill. I'm still arguing the toss with VW at the mo tho. Waiting on final resolution.
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Mine had failed when the dealer sold it to me :angry: so much for their multi-point check!!
Fixed under warranty after some debate as to it being the compressor, re-gassed system and charged me for it at first - mines a 58 plate
Simon
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Well gotta say after much wrangling and back and forth, both the dealership and VW have covered 100% labour and 70% parts. It's booked in for Wednesday next week so hopefully it'll be worth it with the weather :undecided: but couldn't have asked for more from them both TBH. :cool:
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dTEA, How long did it take for VW to get back to you?
As an aside, i have had a few developments with my air con. It turns out that the VW garage that gave me the initial quote have added some 'extra' parts to the list of those that, they said, required replacing. None of the air con specialists or even another VW dealer (both of them are same group of garages by the way) could identify or see why anything else would need replacing. This seems to mean that nearly £300 has been added to the bill for parts that either don't exist or are not required. In addition the other VW dealer also said that they would expect a contribution from VW on this as they have had in the past and would have asked for one without prompting from me.
I am obviously going to be writing to them for an explanation of this.
This is on top of the same VW dealer, the one that appears to be trying to rip me off, measuring my tyres at the time of an air con service (the one that started all this) at three on 4 mm one at 2 mm. Then the next week after a whopping 150 miles they then failed my MOT for illegal tyres. I replaced them elsewhere (at half the price they wanted) and asked the garage who were replacing them to measure them accurately when they took them off. Guess what, three were at 4 mm and one at 2mm.
I know i should name and shame but i'll give them a fair chance to respond first and they won't have received the second letter yet. Needless to say i'm absolutely furious and will be pursuing them.
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^ VW and the dealership jointly paid to reduce my bill but this took some 4 weeks after instigation to come to point whereby I was happy with the quote. That said the dealership was also looking at backup options in case VW didn't offer beyond their initial 10%.
It depends on the nature of your relationship with the dealership as I have used the same franchise since 94!!! Hence they would like to keep repeat business from me and the rest of my family. Either way good luck. Plus there were a whole rake of additional parts that they used alongside the actual compressor to enable a full 2nd warranty on the work carried out. So dunno what the dealership near you is quoting?
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Well i have finally had my air con compressor fixed. VW agreed to give me 30% or so and the dealer then beat the next nearest quote by £50 or so to bring the final sum down to less than half the original quote of £1300.
I'm still chasing VW as, in my eyes, this is definitely a design fault with the original compressor and really no one should pay for this work to be done.
However, since the compressor failed the ABS pump died (another hugely common fault and £1500 bill) literally the week after the air con repair. I was going to drive the stupid car into the sea but VW paid the full cost of the ABS repair. Not a full win but near enough so I think I'll let it go.
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Glad you got your air con sorted I'm sure if you keep hassling them they will refund you some more of the cost. Its very easy to complain & these days & not very time consuming with e-mails etc, so it would be less hassle for VW if they just coughed up in the first place.
There seem to be so many faults with the mk5, touch wood I have avoided the air con issue so far. But faulty diverter valve, rust on the sills and whiteworm have all hit my car at some point. :sad:
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but the later ones are more robust...
Don't count on it...I had the compressor replaced on my 58 plate 12 months ago!!
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Well if anyone wants a cheap mk5 I might be for selling...it's all about the older dubs...issues still be Nowt like this....even the mk4 doesn't cost as much to maintain :laugh: