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General => The garage => Topic started by: lyle82 on 22 June 2011, 16:57
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Had my 59 plate 5dr GTD remapped today. :smiley:
Was done by Paramount Performance in Slough, this was the first they had done and cost me 350+vat but! they are going to start charging more like £500 as they had to remove the ECU and also it was a nightmare on the 1st dyno run as the ESP kept cutting in even though it was turned off so they had to mess about for a bit. If you have plans to doe this to urs my advice is go somewhere they haven’t remapped a mk6 before, and keep it :lipsrsealed:
Started at 171bhp which was more than I expected then remapped to 203.1bhp not bad! Only had a little test since done but I can see the deference, especially in third, pulls really strong. Apparently i need to give it a week or so to settle as the cars ECU needs to re-adjust itself. After that apparently I may even get more BHP but let’s see.
Looking forward to the bug fest at Santa pod in July, will see what i can get on the strip, anyone going with a STD MK6 GTI? Fancy a race!! :evil:
Print out below. Another thing to note if you are considering this yourself, to put it back to standard you will have to pay again for the mk6 due to the need to remove the ECU, well that’s what paramount told me anyway...
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6710/powerta.jpg)
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Should have gone to Carbon Chip Tuning :rolleyes:
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Should have gone to Carbon Chip Tuning :rolleyes:
Bit far for me buddy! nice mk3 had the wolfsburg addition many years ago, until i bent it....
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Nice one Dom :wink:
Lyle come say hello in the MK6 section :smiley:
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Sorry but why is the power so lumpy or am I missing something obvious?
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Sorry but why is the power so lumpy or am I missing something obvious?
Your not missing something obvious :lipsrsealed:
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That torque and power curve look bloody awful. Not to mention what it's doing to the engine.
Get to a proper tuner and get that crap one refunded and standard map put on.
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that looks like my heart trace on my lastest ECG :grin: :laugh:
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that looks like my heart trace on my lastest ECG :grin: :laugh:
You wish yours looked that good :grin: :grin:
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Was done by Paramount Performance in Slough, this was the first they had done and cost me 350+vat
I mean no offence to anyone.. but that speaks volumes to me.
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I would say the dip at the top end was a soft fuel limp, or the axis in the map software is incorrect and missed the calibration updates in the higher rpm. I am sure a 10 min logging session will shed some light on what's going on. This ain't an ecu I remap at the moment so cannot comment on the setpoint limiters. I would get it checked out
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I would say the dip at the top end was a soft fuel limp, or the axis in the map software is incorrect and missed the calibration updates in the higher rpm. I am sure a 10 min logging session will shed some light on what's going on. This ain't an ecu I remap at the moment so cannot comment on the setpoint limiters. I would get it checked out
I'd say you are wrong. :rolleyes:
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Was done by Paramount Performance in Slough, this was the first they had done and cost me 350+vat
I mean no offence to anyone.. but that speaks volumes to me.
I suppose it does look like a mountain range
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I would say the dip at the top end was a soft fuel limp, or the axis in the map software is incorrect and missed the calibration updates in the higher rpm. I am sure a 10 min logging session will shed some light on what's going on. This ain't an ecu I remap at the moment so cannot comment on the setpoint limiters. I would get it checked out
I'd say you are wrong. :rolleyes:
True I was looking at wrong part for the stock graph..Trying to look at it via an I phone not a good idea Lol. Now looking at the right tuned curve where it steps up I can see what's going on.
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I would say the dip at the top end was a soft fuel limp, or the axis in the map software is incorrect and missed the calibration updates in the higher rpm. I am sure a 10 min logging session will shed some light on what's going on. This ain't an ecu I remap at the moment so cannot comment on the setpoint limiters. I would get it checked out
I'd say you are wrong. :rolleyes:
True I was looking at wrong part for the stock graph..Trying to look at it via an I phone not a good idea Lol. Now looking at the right tuned curve where it steps up I can see what's going on.
Really?
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I would say the dip at the top end was a soft fuel limp, or the axis in the map software is incorrect and missed the calibration updates in the higher rpm. I am sure a 10 min logging session will shed some light on what's going on. This ain't an ecu I remap at the moment so cannot comment on the setpoint limiters. I would get it checked out
I'd say you are wrong. :rolleyes:
True I was looking at wrong part for the stock graph..Trying to look at it via an I phone not a good idea Lol. Now looking at the right tuned curve where it steps up I can see what's going on.
Really?
I mean can see whats going on the steps in the graphs. Could be boost oscillations as on the stock run the peak then could be where dip the ecu would switch to open loop to the dc% mapping, and the map has highlighted this and caused the oscillations.
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I would say the dip at the top end was a soft fuel limp, or the axis in the map software is incorrect and missed the calibration updates in the higher rpm. I am sure a 10 min logging session will shed some light on what's going on. This ain't an ecu I remap at the moment so cannot comment on the setpoint limiters. I would get it checked out
I'd say you are wrong. :rolleyes:
True I was looking at wrong part for the stock graph..Trying to look at it via an I phone not a good idea Lol. Now looking at the right tuned curve where it steps up I can see what's going on.
Really?
I mean can see whats going on the steps in the graphs. Could be boost oscillations as on the stock run the peak then could be where dip the ecu would switch to open loop to the dc% mapping, and the map has highlighted this and caused the oscillations.
This could go on for a while and I'm due to go on my hols on Thursday :rolleyes:
IMHO I think the maps just fine and no amount of logging will sort the problem in that graph from what I can see - my graph looks very different but there is a good reason for that.
I'll give the answer to the issue when I return from my hols :wink:
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If it aint down to the front wheels pulling out the rollers during a power run and the stock map was smooth at the same points then it must be down the ecu requests causing the issues?
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Call me old fashioned but I can't go on my hols leaving people in suspense.
If the car felt like the dyno looks then the OP would be far from happy, when he seems ecstatic with his remap.
IMHO
They've not set the dyno up correctly for a GTD hence the massive "squiggle" that clearly shouldn't be there on the end of the stock map run, this is also evident when the OP stated that the mapping company struggled with the traction control on his GTD which is never a problem on the golfs I've mapped.
The "twin peaks" are simply not there on either a standard or correctly modded GTD so I'm assuming the cars also either not strapped properly or it's further problems brought on by not setting the dyno correctly for the GTD.
I have no idea why they allowed a stock run that looked like that to go out on a graph.
(I'd still like to drive it though to make sure - anybody up for a 2p bet? :grin:)
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
:cool:
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6710/powerta.jpg)
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
I lol'd a lot when I saw this ;-)
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
I lol'd a lot when I saw this ;-)
I Thought you should be relaxing on your hols??? I thought I was bad lol
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
Remind me never to let you try and park near my car at shows . . . .
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
Remind me never to let you try and park near my car at shows . . . .
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Mr Magoo :grin:
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
Remind me never to let you try and park near my car at shows . . . .
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Mr Magoo :grin:
PMSL :grin: :grin: :grin:
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
Remind me never to let you try and park near my car at shows . . . .
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Mr Magoo :grin:
PMSL :grin: :grin: :grin:
Missing you brother, Max is Bo bo's and I think my renters got a dodgy DMF :grin:
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am i blind or is everyone talking about some invisible graph?
Remind me never to let you try and park near my car at shows . . . .
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Mr Magoo :grin:
PMSL :grin: :grin: :grin:
Missing you brother, Max is Bo bo's and I think my renters got a dodgy DMF :grin:
Been giving it the proper treatment then :grin: :grin:
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I went for the family option as there's 9 of us, a top spec 120 bhp XXXXL Scudo bus in urinal white :grin:
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Was done by Paramount Performance in Slough, this was the first they had done and cost me 350+vat
I mean no offence to anyone.. but that speaks volumes to me.
I suppose it does look like a mountain range
It shouldn't, they run pretty linear not that that really means anything as I've driven cars with maps as smooth as anything on the dyno that are just horrible on the road and driven cars that feel great on the road but look horrible on the dyno.
When I get 5 I'll post some plots up for the GTD - it's about time :grin:
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Herr Doc,
I am really interested in seeing a mk6 GTD remap dyno graph as I am swaying on the fence, love my GTD std but it is not a patch on my old stage 2+ mkV GTI which had 275BHP and 315lbft...........
thanks
John
p.s its also v SLOWwwwwwwwww to spool up....... remap and dpf removal?
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Remind me on Monday when I'm in work and I'll download some from the dyno for you :wink:
If you talk to Rhyso, steve30 and dom069 on here they've all had a play in it ;-)
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Will do :)
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I can vouch for it! If I had one work to describe it:
Animal :evil:
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I am liking the sound of that Grrrrrr :evil: that's what I want tiger rather than domestic cat :grin:
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I just want a better memory - why don't you just come over and drive mine. :wink:
Please PM me Monday to remind me - sorry again, work is just ridiculous at the mo :sad:
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Will do :)
What happened to that PM :grin:
This graph relates to the software we install to customers vehicles - You can have more but you may have DPF fun and games :rolleyes:
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3094/gtddsg.gif)
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Look at that torque :shocked:
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Look at that torque :shocked:
Yeah baby :cool: :cool:
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Am i being dense and cannot see the 201HP figure? Or have you split the graphs down so one is a torque only representation?
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Am i being dense and cannot see the 201HP figure? Or have you split the graphs down so one is a torque only representation?
Higher of the two is the BHP, lower is the Torque
I need to do some standard runs but this involves ECU removal and I was pushed for time this morning, I've got the original runs from when the car was new but they are around 165 BHP, I think the car will have opened up quite a bit since then :wink:
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Aye, gotcha I was being thick. Just looked again and realised. Not quite sure what I was thinking when I posted that.
Still Superman IV is on now. Happy days. :laugh:
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Aye, gotcha I was being thick. Just looked again and realised. Not quite sure what I was thinking when I posted that.
Still Superman IV is on now. Happy days. :laugh:
Roger that :grin:
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with a new turbo how long to properly bed in and get decent power ?
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with a new turbo how long to properly bed in and get decent power ?
Pm sent :wink: