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Title: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 22 June 2011, 14:08
Hi i need new brakes but deciding what to do is p-ing me off  :angry:

Money is quite tight as i would also like some jom coilovers, panel filter and new engine hoses.

So i was looking into the 312mm upgrade but stuggling to find the carriers for under £100 then was thinking today my car is only standard engine wise so is it really worth spending all that money? Or should i just buy some new standard ones with new pads, hoses and fluid. Was also looking at the vrs green calipers as they look nice and seen a couple quite cheap on ebay :D

What do you reckon? Cheers guys and gals :afro:
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: nige_s on 22 June 2011, 14:21
I think going 312mm is a no brainer, I'm thinking about doing to my A4 as I don't think the standard size discs are that great compared to the 312 on my Golf..

Do it now as the cost isn't that much more on top of the new pads, hoses, discs and fluid.  I wouldn't bother with the VRS calipers, save your money for the suspension mods.

Can't you find any secondhand carriers cheaper?
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: Wayne on 22 June 2011, 14:23
Go for the 312mm set up.

If you want Green calipers, then smooth green hammerite is the same colour
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: dolphinfriendly1012 on 22 June 2011, 15:22
If you go for 312mm disc then if you do decide to enhance the performance of the engine later at least you know the brakes will be already done and up for the job in hand. Plus the stopping power will be much better.
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 22 June 2011, 15:23
The only carriers i could find on ebay were way over £100 or you just get the odd one like left or right and by itself it is still £80+ which is a bloody joke lol.
Seeing how theres a set of discs and pads for under £80? Asked a few people braking the certain models for the carriers and they've all been sold lol

What are the best brake hoses to go for. Seen goodridge which are about £80? Any cheaper ones lol.

Also would i need to replace my caliper ( i know you dont for the updrage), but in terms of how old they are? Cars done 92k but have no idea about brakes lol so dont even know what happens to calipers  :grin:

Going to get these hopefully when i get paid:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110660177939&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT(just noticed these may not fit lol, but you get the idea  :wink:)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160593270448&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

then just need to find the carriers. just going to have to keep trying really want them quickish though as i dont want to have the brakes for ages and not be able to fit them  :smiley:
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: nige_s on 22 June 2011, 15:38
Calipers are fine, are your flexi hoses shot i.e. are you changing them for a reason?

I'd go with OEM on the flexis, braided hoses aren't the be all and end all.
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 22 June 2011, 15:48
Erm no idea lol. All i know is that the discs defo need changing soon. The only reason is that i saw it on the 312mm upgrade thread. Said them and new brake fluid can make all the differnece for not alot of £££  :smiley:

Just emailed someone on ebay breaking a 2001 octavia vrs. Said he would do the discs, pads, calipers and carreirs for £200? That seem ok? Just asked for some pics and condition of discs.
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: nige_s on 22 June 2011, 16:28
Provided your flexis aren't damaged or the unions/ferules aren't badly corroded I'd leave the in place.  Refreshing the fluid should make a considerable difference and certainly worth doing if you don't know if it's been changed.  But first change to 312mm discs with new good quality pads and take the hydraulic system from there if required.  Keep the approach simple sensible and do it step by step, no need to blow all your cash on stuff you don't necessarily need, yet.

Do you have a proper pressure bleeder for when you change the fluid?  Please don't say Gunson Eezibleed.

Do you feel that the brakes aren't effective
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 22 June 2011, 17:34
I wouldnt want to start fiddling with the brakes or attempt to change them. I just feel like they are the most improtant part of the car so i wouldnt trust myself to change them  :grin:

Update: The guy is going to send me some pictures and said he could do the whole set up for £205 delivered? Which didnt seem to bad as i could always sell the discs and calipers on if they werent in the best condition. But they sound ok the car is a CAT b write off and damaged front wing. Apart from that the car looks quite good  :grin: Nice bright green calipers
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: Wayne on 22 June 2011, 20:48
Thats not a bad price. :smiley: but have seen them cheaper.
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: coolio on 22 June 2011, 22:49
if u look around u can pick them up for about 120 pound for the 312mm setup !
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: new to vw on 22 June 2011, 23:36
Leave the standard set up on there bud, just replace with a decent brand of disks and pads.. :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 23 June 2011, 09:40
I think depending on how they look I maygo with the set for 205 as that doesnt seem too bad for the whole lot.

What makes are decent?  :undecided:
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: nige_s on 23 June 2011, 12:19
What makes of what disc or pad?  what do you mean?
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 23 June 2011, 12:28
Ye discs and pads as 'new to vw' said get some decent pads and discs so wanted to know what makes are considered good?
 :smiley:

I did warn you I knew nothing about brakes lol
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: nige_s on 23 June 2011, 13:44
I've just fitted some Zimmerman ones from GSF, I compared them to their budget brand instore and the difference obvious and was well worth the few extra pounds.

Depends on budget but Mintex and Ferrodo are very good, otherwise just get some Pagid ones from GSF.
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 23 June 2011, 17:23
I've just fitted some Zimmerman ones from GSF, I compared them to their budget brand instore and the difference obvious and was well worth the few extra pounds.

Depends on budget but Mintex and Ferrodo are very good, otherwise just get some Pagid ones from GSF.

Thanks for the help will keep a look out on ebay and do a bit of a search at the weekend. :afro:
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: jnufcuk on 23 June 2011, 21:27
6 votes for 312 and 1 for standard. Guess I know what I'll be doing over the weekend lol. Just wish I could find these bloody carriers. Think I
Ay have found one depending on how many buffers it gets tomo lol.

Thanks for all the help guys would be lost without this forum ( and very bored) :afro:
Title: Re: 312mm Upgrade or Keep standard?
Post by: new to vw on 23 June 2011, 22:51
I would go for MINTEX all day long bud, I had them on my 2.8 30V 4Motion passat which had 200hp.The standard disks on them were 288mm if i remember right...NEVER had any probs with them at all, thats whats going on my golf anyway :grin: :grin: