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Title: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Organisys on 06 April 2005, 21:20
Hi all,

Putting my 8v on some Eibach springs is my first step to a better handling car. What do peeps recommend next, Boge Gas Shockers? (Koni to much $) and then Braces? which? upper or lower, front, rear worth bothering with? Poly Bushes?
Don't need a track car, just for road use.

Note, I'm quite happy with a little understeer, dont want it too rear biased, but could do with taking a little of the slopiness out. Thanks.
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: 888v on 06 April 2005, 21:23
only got springs and shocks on my 8v and it handles like a dream.....understeer??? whats that???? maybe uprate the brakes?? :wink:
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: mix on 06 April 2005, 21:24
a very big wing......

* i'll get my coat.......and leave the forum.....
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Mr Blue on 06 April 2005, 21:36
a very big wing......

* i'll get my coat.......and leave the forum.....

lol and a go faster decal :grin:

Organisys, Coilovers like Supersport goldlines are cheap and ideal. im running some and the handling is awesome even with the 17's on
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: ...joe on 06 April 2005, 22:04
strut braces help as do uprated anti-roll bars but if you don't want to spend out on knoi's you probably wont want to spend £230 odd on ARB's???
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: mix on 06 April 2005, 22:08
a very big wing......

* i'll get my coat.......and leave the forum.....

lol and a go faster decal :grin:

Organisys, Coilovers like Supersport goldlines are cheap and ideal. im running some and the handling is awesome even with the 17's on

maybe some neons aswell....

again, will be leaving now.....
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: 888v on 06 April 2005, 22:11
you mean landin lights??? :laugh:
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: KungFooBob on 07 April 2005, 08:44
My car came with Boge shocks, it's kinda scary, I was used to front wheel drive cars that understeered, but the Goof just grips and grips and grips, then the rear end starts to move..... I'd swear it was rear wheel drive!
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Judderi on 07 April 2005, 09:43
Im going for the whole 9 yards.

KONI coil overs

Polly bushes all round - exept rear

Top Brace, Bottom brace and rear brace

Then most importantly i think, get a 4 wheel allignment done! i.e tracking
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: bosun on 07 April 2005, 10:56
Poly bushes(front control arms,rear shock top mounts).Gas shocks with lowered uprated springs,30-40mm is a nice look,but this is personel choice.Eibach anti roll bars(these are a must,come with polly bushes).It will drive nice in a straight line depending on spring rates and go round corners like it`s on rails.
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Judderi on 07 April 2005, 11:07
whats the difference between the standard anti roll bar and an eibach one?
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Chris Green on 07 April 2005, 11:20
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned it yet...

Tyres are probably the most important ingredient to good road holding.

If its sloppy at the moment, then poly bushes will sort that out. Check for worn ball joints, and strut tops too.

HTH,

Chris.
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: bosun on 07 April 2005, 11:24
The front bar is thicker and you add a bar to the rear axel.
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 07 April 2005, 12:15
on a gti you should already have a rear bar
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Organisys on 07 April 2005, 13:08
Thanks all, yeah uprated ARB's wont be an option yet, unless I can get them real cheap. Looks like polly bushes is a good option, and as for the tip on tyres, yeah the ones on there at the momment are some horrendous cheap s***t, but I am in the process of re-con and polishing some old skool ATS 5 spoke 15" alloys, and I've found a local place that will do me a deal on Eagle F1's.

Ohh yteah, and maybe a nice big pram handle from an EVO, stuck on the back with tape!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Organisys on 07 April 2005, 13:14
Just read an article in the lastest EVO mag (has TVR's on the cover) and there is a little column in the technical Q&A bit about how an uprated front ARB can actually increase the tendency to understeer, seems an uprated rear would be good on a golf, to give a more neautral bias?

 :undecided:
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Gambit on 07 April 2005, 13:58
an uprated front on its own will induce understeer
an uprated rear on its own will induce oversteer

hence you need both for the perfect balance

i ran Eibach ARB's on my old 16v with std 16v suspension and its is far superior to my current 16v which has 55/40mm split with Biltstein shocks!!
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 07 April 2005, 14:04
an uprated front on its own will induce understeer
an uprated rear on its own will induce oversteer

hence you need both for the perfect balance

i ran Eibach ARB's on my old 16v with std 16v suspension and its is far superior to my current 16v which has 55/40mm split with Biltstein shocks!!

i need to pimp my gran or something then to get some of these.........
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Gambit on 07 April 2005, 16:44
get me some while your at it! my previous set only cost me £100 2nd hand and selling them with the car is the biggest mistake ever!!
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Organisys on 07 April 2005, 20:31
Reckon we could get a group buy some where chaps? are some of the cheaper ones any good, such as SPAX etc, or is it like their springs, they really are miles better?
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: ...joe on 07 April 2005, 21:00
the only ARB's that seem to be worth using are eibach and neuspeed which are just as expensive!!! i might try and see if i could get a group buy, not sure where to start but its got to be worth a try eh?
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Organisys on 12 April 2005, 13:29
Installed the Eibach Springs at the weekend, very nice indeed. Big improvement in handling. Standard shocks just about keeping up.
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: pegasus on 12 April 2005, 20:50
I would be interested in a group buy for some eibach/neuspeed arb's

im sure there would be others interested too....
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: monzablue16v on 12 April 2005, 21:47
me 2 if cheap top and bottom fronts I'm leaving the rear :wink:
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: Lewy on 12 April 2005, 21:50
If a GB is going on for ARB's, then count me in as thats next on my list. :smiley:
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: monzablue16v on 12 April 2005, 22:35

Bit of a thread hijack I know but might also have a polyurethane top front strut mounting been made so hang on to your hats for another group buy maybe...... possibly. anybody know where to get some to stop me having to get some made??? :undecided:
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: sellers on 12 April 2005, 22:59
understeer? never heard of it?  over steer never heard of that either?

its full on drift for my golf,

put it into a roundabout hard, get a slight bit of understeer when really pushing it then it drifts.

crapped my pants when i 1st did it
Title: Re: Best Mods for Good road handling Please?
Post by: monzablue16v on 12 April 2005, 23:02
I did that caning it slightly the other day full on 4 wheels drifting away  :grin:  good job i play nfsu2 a lot!!!! Smiling but also time for new boxers!! they should have the mk2 as an option on that game!